1973 vs. 2007

Mooseman684 · 05-25-2007, 01:12 PM

Scenario: Jack goes duck hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.

1973 - Vice Principal comes over, takes a look at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his to show Jack.

2007- School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1973 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled.

2007- Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.

++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +

Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.

1973- Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by Principal. Sits still in class.

2007 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie.. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.

++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping.

1973- Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.

2007 - Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. Billy's sister is told by state psychologist that she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.

++++++++++++ +++++++++ ++++++++

Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1973 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.

2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.

++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++

Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.

1973: Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.

2007 : Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he can't speak English.

++++++++++++ +++++++++

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed .

1973- Ants die.

2007 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

++++++++++++ +++++++++

Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary, hugs him to comfort him.

1973- In a short time Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

Boy, Times have sure changed , and not for the better.....

ezearln · 05-25-2007, 01:15 PM

Scary part is Moose you ain't far wrong!

WILSON · 05-25-2007, 01:56 PM

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JoeLee · 05-25-2007, 02:23 PM

Well I don't know.Back in the 40s and 50s I had a few pretty "woman"school teachers I wished would molest me,as is becoming common place today.But I did take my Mossberg to school back then,I guess you cant have it all in one basket.

dceptiv240 · 05-25-2007, 02:51 PM

i was born 1973, glad you picked that year. maybe we should start a retro trend " bring back 1973 "

btw, now thats putting some perspective on things, your examples were pretty much dead on! excellent thread mooseman684! excellent!!

ArkansasHunter · 05-25-2007, 04:40 PM

My son fortunitly never got in trouble at school for fighting and he was in many, yet he never started any of them.
He went to school, where some would call a "white flight" school thats out of the city limits of our city.
If he'd went to school in the city he and who he fought would of been in serious trouble, so I recon where you might live makes a big differents on the degree of punishment...On another note when he was a school teacher and a bully picked on another student and the bully was getting his AZZ whopped my son would take his time breaking up the fight where bully could learn a lesson...A.H
p.s. my little 6' 3" baby is a cop now bustten them mean little bastids !!!!

ezearln · 05-25-2007, 05:37 PM

Well A.H. it appears I am the runt in my family favoring my Mommas side I am a mere 6' 165-170 lbs (at 50 I guess that puts me in fair physical condition) however my "Baby " brother is 6'5" and a solid 380-400. Daddy of course I've always referred to as a BDO (Big dumb okie) at 6'1" and 255 the 7th infantry in Korea stuck him with the BAR...

Johnny_Revolver · 05-25-2007, 06:37 PM

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1973 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled.
2007- Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.
++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping.
1973- Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2007 - Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. Billy's sister is told by state psychologist that she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.
++++++++++++ +++++++++ ++++++++
Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1973 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.
++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++
Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed .
1973- Ants die.
2007 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.
++++++++++++ +++++++++
Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary, hugs him to comfort him.
1973- In a short time Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
Boy, Times have sure changed , and not for the better.....[/quote]

Never knew I was such a bad egg. Or clumsy, or a bad pugilist. But I always thought that Billy was a ne`r do well...

Midas · 05-25-2007, 08:45 PM

Ah 1973, I was in the 4th Grade, the hippy culture was going full force, those were much different times then today. Life just wasn't as complicated back then, if you got into a fight at school, you were suspended for 1 day, now, if you get into a fight at school, you can end up in police custody, times have changed! and I'm not so sure its for the best.

ezearln · 05-25-2007, 10:25 PM

Hmmm 1973 I was 18 months from graduating and going into the Navy, the Hippie culture was actually winding down a bit and free Love still cost $25 a pop.... Just memories ya'll just memories!

troy2000 · 05-25-2007, 11:17 PM

In 1973 I got out of the service at the age of 24 and started sitting in a corner, quietly listening to my hair grow.

It did me good...after a couple of years I cut the hair short enough to keep it out of my eyes, and went on with life.

Mooseman684 · 05-25-2007, 11:20 PM

Sin ,Sex, LSD...I was the class of '73...17 when I graduated High School.
Rich

just_a_car · 05-25-2007, 11:39 PM

In 1973, I was still 8 years in the making.

...but my father was one year back from duty in the USAF stationed in Tan Son Nhut AFB, Saigon, Vietnam.

MosinDave · 05-25-2007, 11:51 PM

Ah, another '81 vintage! My parents were still teenagers '73 so I can only imagine what they were doing back then

just_a_car · 05-26-2007, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MosinDave

Ah, another '81 vintage! My parents were still teenagers '73 so I can only imagine what they were doing back then

Yup! My DoB is in my profile.

My parents 'started late', as I was their first of two children. My father was 35 and my mother 33. But, it allowed them to get their degrees, take a trip around Europe, start their careers, and set up a stable home for which to raise children.

I personally think more people should do that; have a stable financial and emotional home situation before ever considering having children. We'd be a better society for it.

dceptiv240 · 05-26-2007, 01:00 AM

i don't, me and my wife had ours early on for the sake of being able to handle the challenges that come with children. we do more with our children than the standard family, we identify more with the perspectives of our children, and we still have the energy to do all the activities that our children enjoy. we got married in 1995 and decided that we wanted to do the kids thing up front. that way we could still be young enough to fully enjoy the times with the kids and grandkids. while still being young enough for the adventures after they're gone to be more than just site seeing! and we weren't financially secure.(i don't even believe in cristianity i have have more hope and faith than that)sometimes you just go and know that no matter what your doing your best and thats all you can do. sometimes you just have to have faith in yourself.
i live differently than most and i understand that, but i don't think the world will be worse because others do it the way we did it! as a matter of fact people always comment on how much more well behaved our children are than most of the others around us. it's not because anyone waited longer or anything like that it's just because we raise them more consistently. if its wrong it's always wrong .not it's wrong this time but if i'm tired of getting on to you i'll let it go so try again in a minute!or ok i cant get on to my child because someone may report me.
look if you turn out good its because the mentality of your parents and their type of parenting was good. not because of the timing of their pregnancy or because you went to church or because your family had money. it's love, support, consistency, and good moral values. period. what if you never have all your dreams come to fruition and your spouse gets killed in an accident.
o well maybe i'll find another soulmate or love of my life there must be hundreds out there!(sarcasm intended)
i'm sorry, justacar, i dont mean to seam like i'm attacking you if it comes across that way, i just do not agree

and i was married before we decided to try to get her pregant and raise children!(just to clarify)

ArkansasHunter · 05-26-2007, 09:09 PM

we the same age, I was released from HIGH school in 1973.
Changing the subject a little...Did your schools ever play over the intercom Schools out for Summer by Alice Copper ?? Ours did 3 years in a row.
Did yall drink Boones Farm Strawberry Hill Wine and Apple too ???...A.H

troy2000 · 05-26-2007, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

we the same age, I was released from HIGH school in 1973.
Changing the subject a little...Did your schools ever play over the intercom Schools out for Summer by Alice Copper ?? Ours did 3 years in a row.
Did yall drink Boones Farm Strawberry Hill Wine and Apple too ???...A.H

I graduated in 1967. In my day, if you wanted to get sloppy drunk and sick, you drank Thunderbird wine:

What's the Word?
Thunderbird.
What's the price?
Twenty twice.
What's the reason?
Grapes are in season!

But nobody drank Thunderbird in mixed company. If you were out on a double date, you brought a six-pack of beer for you and your buddy. For the young ladies, you supplied a six-pack of Coke and a bottle of Sloe Gin. Then you went Boonie-hopping through the byways and back ways, glorying in your wickedness...

Mooseman684 · 05-26-2007, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

we the same age, I was released from HIGH school in 1973.
Changing the subject a little...Did your schools ever play over the intercom Schools out for Summer by Alice Copper ?? Ours did 3 years in a row.
Did yall drink Boones Farm Strawberry Hill Wine and Apple too ???...A.H

Boone's Farm Wines....Boy, does that bring back memories, I think...

ArkansasHunter · 05-27-2007, 09:24 AM

Go ahead Troy...Moose I drank 6 bottles of Strawberry Hill one New Years night with a few beers inbetween.
To this day I can say I've never been as drunk and screwed up has I got that night...It blinded me too !!

05-25-2007, 01:12 PM	#1
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,638 Images: 2	1973 vs. 2007 Scenario: Jack goes duck hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack. 1973 - Vice Principal comes over, takes a look at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his to show Jack. 2007- School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers. Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school. 1973 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled. 2007- Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it. ++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ + Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students. 1973- Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by Principal. Sits still in class. 2007 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie.. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability. ++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++ Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping. 1973- Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman. 2007 - Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. Billy's sister is told by state psychologist that she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist. ++++++++++++ +++++++++ ++++++++ Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school. 1973 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock. 2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons. ++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++ Scenario: Pedro fails high school English. 1973: Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college. 2007 : Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he can't speak English. ++++++++++++ +++++++++ Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed . 1973- Ants die. 2007 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again. ++++++++++++ +++++++++ Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary, hugs him to comfort him. 1973- In a short time Johnny feels better and goes on playing. 2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy. Boy, Times have sure changed , and not for the better..... __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

05-25-2007, 01:15 PM	#2
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,175	Scary part is Moose you ain't far wrong! __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

05-25-2007, 02:51 PM	#5
dceptiv240 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: south ALABAMA Posts: 260	i was born 1973, glad you picked that year. maybe we should start a retro trend " bring back 1973 " btw, now thats putting some perspective on things, your examples were pretty much dead on! excellent thread mooseman684! excellent!! __________________ ________[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Ruger Redhawk .44 mag w/Simmons 2-6x32 "FREEDOM SHOULD APPLY TO EVERYTHING, AND EVERYONE!"

05-25-2007, 05:37 PM	#7
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,175	Well A.H. it appears I am the runt in my family favoring my Mommas side I am a mere 6' 165-170 lbs (at 50 I guess that puts me in fair physical condition) however my "Baby " brother is 6'5" and a solid 380-400. Daddy of course I've always referred to as a BDO (Big dumb okie) at 6'1" and 255 the 7th infantry in Korea stuck him with the BAR... __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

05-25-2007, 06:37 PM	#8
Johnny_Revolver Gun Liker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,209 Blog Entries: 6	Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school. 1973 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled. 2007- Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it. ++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ + Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping. 1973- Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman. 2007 - Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. Billy's sister is told by state psychologist that she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist. ++++++++++++ +++++++++ ++++++++ Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school. 1973 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock. 2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons. ++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++ Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed . 1973- Ants die. 2007 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again. ++++++++++++ +++++++++ Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary, hugs him to comfort him. 1973- In a short time Johnny feels better and goes on playing. 2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy. Boy, Times have sure changed , and not for the better.....[/quote] Never knew I was such a bad egg. Or clumsy, or a bad pugilist. But I always thought that Billy was a ne`r do well... __________________ It`s a good life, provided you don`t weaken.

05-25-2007, 01:56 PM	#3
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05-25-2007, 02:23 PM	#4
JoeLee Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North New York State. Posts: 1,241	Well I don't know.Back in the 40s and 50s I had a few pretty "woman"school teachers I wished would molest me,as is becoming common place today.But I did take my Mossberg to school back then,I guess you cant have it all in one basket.

05-25-2007, 04:40 PM	#6
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,678	My son fortunitly never got in trouble at school for fighting and he was in many, yet he never started any of them. He went to school, where some would call a "white flight" school thats out of the city limits of our city. If he'd went to school in the city he and who he fought would of been in serious trouble, so I recon where you might live makes a big differents on the degree of punishment...On another note when he was a school teacher and a bully picked on another student and the bully was getting his AZZ whopped my son would take his time breaking up the fight where bully could learn a lesson...A.H p.s. my little 6' 3" baby is a cop now bustten them mean little bastids !!!!

05-25-2007, 08:45 PM	#9
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,788 Images: 2 Blog Entries: 6	Ah 1973, I was in the 4th Grade, the hippy culture was going full force, those were much different times then today. Life just wasn't as complicated back then, if you got into a fight at school, you were suspended for 1 day, now, if you get into a fight at school, you can end up in police custody, times have changed! and I'm not so sure its for the best. __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

05-25-2007, 10:25 PM	#10
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,175	Hmmm 1973 I was 18 months from graduating and going into the Navy, the Hippie culture was actually winding down a bit and free Love still cost $25 a pop.... Just memories ya'll just memories! __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

05-25-2007, 11:17 PM	#11
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,409 Images: 9	In 1973 I got out of the service at the age of 24 and started sitting in a corner, quietly listening to my hair grow. It did me good...after a couple of years I cut the hair short enough to keep it out of my eyes, and went on with life. __________________ If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -Anatole France

05-25-2007, 11:20 PM	#12
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,638 Images: 2	Sin ,Sex, LSD...I was the class of '73...17 when I graduated High School. Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

05-25-2007, 11:39 PM	#13
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,512	In 1973, I was still 8 years in the making. ...but my father was one year back from duty in the USAF stationed in Tan Son Nhut AFB, Saigon, Vietnam. __________________

05-25-2007, 11:51 PM	#14
MosinDave Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 571	Ah, another '81 vintage! My parents were still teenagers '73 so I can only imagine what they were doing back then

05-26-2007, 01:00 AM	#16
dceptiv240 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: south ALABAMA Posts: 260	i don't, me and my wife had ours early on for the sake of being able to handle the challenges that come with children. we do more with our children than the standard family, we identify more with the perspectives of our children, and we still have the energy to do all the activities that our children enjoy. we got married in 1995 and decided that we wanted to do the kids thing up front. that way we could still be young enough to fully enjoy the times with the kids and grandkids. while still being young enough for the adventures after they're gone to be more than just site seeing! and we weren't financially secure.(i don't even believe in cristianity i have have more hope and faith than that)sometimes you just go and know that no matter what your doing your best and thats all you can do. sometimes you just have to have faith in yourself. i live differently than most and i understand that, but i don't think the world will be worse because others do it the way we did it! as a matter of fact people always comment on how much more well behaved our children are than most of the others around us. it's not because anyone waited longer or anything like that it's just because we raise them more consistently. if its wrong it's always wrong .not it's wrong this time but if i'm tired of getting on to you i'll let it go so try again in a minute!or ok i cant get on to my child because someone may report me. look if you turn out good its because the mentality of your parents and their type of parenting was good. not because of the timing of their pregnancy or because you went to church or because your family had money. it's love, support, consistency, and good moral values. period. what if you never have all your dreams come to fruition and your spouse gets killed in an accident. o well maybe i'll find another soulmate or love of my life there must be hundreds out there!(sarcasm intended) i'm sorry, justacar, i dont mean to seam like i'm attacking you if it comes across that way, i just do not agree and i was married before we decided to try to get her pregant and raise children!(just to clarify) __________________ ________[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Ruger Redhawk .44 mag w/Simmons 2-6x32 "FREEDOM SHOULD APPLY TO EVERYTHING, AND EVERYONE!" Last edited by dceptiv240; 05-26-2007 at 01:14 AM.

05-26-2007, 09:09 PM	#17
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,678	we the same age, I was released from HIGH school in 1973. Changing the subject a little...Did your schools ever play over the intercom Schools out for Summer by Alice Copper ?? Ours did 3 years in a row. Did yall drink Boones Farm Strawberry Hill Wine and Apple too ???...A.H

05-27-2007, 09:24 AM	#20
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,678	Go ahead Troy...Moose I drank 6 bottles of Strawberry Hill one New Years night with a few beers inbetween. To this day I can say I've never been as drunk and screwed up has I got that night...It blinded me too !!