02-22-2008, 12:50 AM
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#21 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by sell33 | So, sounds like you guys all love your cetmes anyway? i have heard lots of good things i might just keep my eyes open for one lol | GunBroker.com Online Gun Auction has 'em... that's where I got mine!
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02-22-2008, 12:52 AM
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#22 | | Firearm Zealot
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yeah i have been looking alot, not as cheap as some of you said you got yours tho? plus i still need to save the money lol
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02-22-2008, 01:15 AM
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#23 | | CERTIFIABLE GUN NUT
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So to comment but not to hi-jack or veer to far off topic. The scope mount that mooseman had on his and the one to the link I beleive it was JAC that left it, if different, is very similar to the kind used on an SKS, the receiver cover mounted scope base in general. How does that one work compared to the one for an SKS? And why have I seen so many with thumbs down for the SKS one?
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02-22-2008, 01:51 AM
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#24 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by sell33 | yeah i have been looking alot, not as cheap as some of you said you got yours tho? plus i still need to save the money lol | they increased in price 200 to 300 overnight when it was announced that they would be discontinued.
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02-22-2008, 11:22 PM
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#25 | | Firearm Aficionado
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I have a Tapco dual rail SWAT mount on my CAI CETME with a Tasco "Golden Antler" 3x9x40. Works well. Pay attention to the set screws on the mount and the "oiler hole" on reciever. Snug the screw into the hole without going to deep and hitting the bolt, and make sure your claw screw isn't so tight that it squeezes the reciever and binds the bolt. Do this and you'll have a see-thru mount that won't "walk" on you. "Viva Las Fusil de Asaulto de CETME!" |
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02-26-2008, 05:51 PM
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#26 | | Firearm Aficionado
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I too have heard of the scope mounts tightening to the point it disrupts the funtion of the bolt/action. I am a firm believer that if you don't want problems and want easy, very easy, on off capability that you need the H&K or Tasco claw mount with H&K scope or copy that was meant for the G3. Their made to handle the "crazyness" of the weapon. I'm not saying that's what all these people should do, but if you have yet to mount one, go with the real deal. I have the Tasco claw mount but not the scope, only basing my theory on the extreme research I've been doing for my own problem free purchase. It's refered to traditionally as the "Stanag" mount.
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03-23-2008, 12:24 AM
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#27 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Not tasco its tapco. And you really dont want to over tighten the thing, it can cause the bolt to bind. If there is no hole on youre reciever for a set screw to hold it in place you should probably drill one. Make sure the screw does not interfere with the action. |
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03-23-2008, 07:49 AM
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#28 | | Firearm Zealot
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GM - the CETME and SKS are two totally different critters! The SKS has the top cover that can loosen and rock - makes mounting a scope iffy!
The CETME has a fixed sheet steel receiver that fully encloses the action - no 'cover' to loosen and move!
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03-25-2008, 03:00 AM
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#29 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by Big Dog | GM - the CETME and SKS are two totally different critters! The SKS has the top cover that can loosen and rock - makes mounting a scope iffy!
The CETME has a fixed sheet steel receiver that fully encloses the action - no 'cover' to loosen and move! | True the problem with mounting a scope on a cetme is not loosness it is the violent recoil. does the set sdrew that is set in the top of the cover realy hold the mount in place? The metal is so thin it seems like the force of ejection would sheer the one or two threads holding it in. (it looks like only one or two threads could be used before you fowl the bolt)
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03-25-2008, 06:22 AM
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#30 | | Firearm Zealot
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That's the true beauty of the CETME - recoil isn't violent! It has the least felt recoil of any .308 rifle I have shot. Very easy to keep on target for multiple shots.
My scope rail is literally 'glued on' with epoxy - JB Weld is wonderful stuff! If the recoil were that violent, it would've been lost long ago!
The CETME has the recoil buffer too, built in. No heavy jolt to the receiver. The SKS has the bolt carrier hitting the rear of the top cover - that's why they loosen so quickly.
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03-25-2008, 07:16 AM
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#31 | | Firearm Zealot
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Here's to our Spanish Ladies being some of the best battle rifles ever made! (Note, I differentiate between battle rifle and assault rifle and consider AK's and AR's as being in the latter)
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03-25-2008, 06:40 PM
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#32 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by Big Dog | That's the true beauty of the CETME - recoil isn't violent! It has the least felt recoil of any .308 rifle I have shot. Very easy to keep on target for multiple shots.
My scope rail is literally 'glued on' with epoxy - JB Weld is wonderful stuff! If the recoil were that violent, it would've been lost long ago!
The CETME has the recoil buffer too, built in. No heavy jolt to the receiver. The SKS has the bolt carrier hitting the rear of the top cover - that's why they loosen so quickly. | Ok I said the wrong thing I was refering to the violent force used by the roller system when ejecting a round. The ejection force is about 200g's or 200 times the force of gravity. This is why the shell will fly 40 feet when it is ejected. This force is not felt recoil but still travels through the gun. hence the reason why a clamp style mount wont work by its self. so Im sorry I said the wrong thing. If JB weld works by its self then thats great. However I wouldnt shoot it in the extream cold since Jb weld is weakend by the cold.
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03-26-2008, 01:19 AM
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#33 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Some recievers have a hole for the set screw. And yes a couple threads is all you need to keep the mount from walking. Cetmes are not verry hard on scopes. Any scope you want to mount feel free just dont think you are going to hit anything over 200 yards.
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04-18-2008, 02:12 AM
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#34 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by Billyz | Some recievers have a hole for the set screw. And yes a couple threads is all you need to keep the mount from walking. Cetmes are not verry hard on scopes. Any scope you want to mount feel free just dont think you are going to hit anything over 200 yards. | I hit stuff over 200 yards with just my iron sights.
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04-18-2008, 02:11 PM
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#35 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by meatloaf | I hit stuff over 200 yards with just my iron sights. | Haven't had the chance to shoot over 50 yards, but I would imagine that it should hit accurately out to 400 meters on irons, since that's what the rear sight is graduated in. A scope should extend that and/or bring the groups in even better.
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04-18-2008, 05:45 PM
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I'm trying to decide if I should put a a halo type red dot (like the eotech style), the aimpoint style red dot, or a scope with some magnification. Decisions, decisions. Any thoughts? |
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04-18-2008, 07:57 PM
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#37 | | Firearm Aficionado
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My thought is what are you shooting. 20-250yds. go Eotech style. if Farther is your thing then scope it. I use a cheap green dot sight and the stanag mount with the picatinnny rail on it. I can shoot 200 yds. confidently with it. I have yet to attempt further. Will report back. I intend on biting the bullet eventually and getting the surplus HK sniper scope.(350.00ish) I can get it locally (untl someone snatches it) The scope you have there looks good to me. the eotech is also a very good style if you like it. I would say try shooting a weapon with one first. Good luck with the decision making.
JAC I also have that mount(you linked) and found that it bent on one arm as I tried to keep it from moving by (over)tightening it. I can mail it to you if youd want it. ( PM me)
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04-18-2008, 09:25 PM
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#38 | | Firearm Zealot
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One mistake a lot of guys make is to buy the cheaper aluminum "Stanag-style" claw mounts - these are basically designed for the Airsoft guns - they don't hold up to recoil on real guns. Some vendors still sell them to gun owners without telling them.
My JB Welded mount has about 600 rounds thru it now. One funny thing though - I used the same stuff to mount a .22 rifle front sight onto my cheapo Italian .22 revolver. Shooting .22 Magnum, the sight would pop off after just a few rounds! I guess the .22 Magnum had a sharp enough recoil to knock it loose! I used the JB QuikWeld - a somewhat softer compound with half the rated strength of the regular - it has held! Hehehe!
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