Old 07-07-2007, 07:39 PM   #1
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:47 PM   #2
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Question: do the idiots who drafted this proposal even realize it would impact ammo? It's possible those are unintended consequences. Of course, it's also possible they're doing it on purpose.

In other words, as that comic used to say a few years ago, "is the world being run by smart people who are, how you say, putting us on, or by fools who really mean it?"

Be interesting to watch them try to force your local copshop to evacuate every time there's a thunderstorm, because they're 'storing explosives'...what would the cops do? Hang out in squad cars until the rain was over?

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Old 07-07-2007, 07:59 PM   #3
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I don't see this getting very far, I hope it sputters out.
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Old 07-07-2007, 08:17 PM   #4
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This is just silly.
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Old 07-07-2007, 08:58 PM   #5
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Sign of the times guys we are going to have another 8 years of bad-bad guns,soon as the next election comes.We can't disarm a segment of Society we must disarm the whole Society.Discrimination is not legal so we must bite the bullet for others who cant be trusted.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:20 PM   #6
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What bites about this sort of thing is that OSHA is a group of non-elected individuals and therefore not accountable directly to the voters. I have great disdain for executive fiat implemented by a regulatory agency. There are not a huge amount of explosives related job injuries out there.

There is a 55 page pdf file with the proposed rule http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspubli...ontentType=pdf

I added my comments to the official record.

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I do not see anywhere in the Constitution of the United States that a regulatory agency under the executive branch of government has the authority to make rules regarding the use of arms of their necessary components such as propellants and primers.

There are some ludicrous requirements such as evacuation during an electrical storm that, quite frankly, are not feasible nor common sense filled. As a fire protection specialist, I do believe that some of the requirements I have read are overkill.

Have there been demonstrable increases in work place deaths or injuries as related to the storage, transportation, sales, and use of explosives, much less that of ammunition? If there were, it probably would have been newsworthy.

The proposed regulations would effectively cripple ammunition sales by a regulatory agency. OSHA is not a legislative body, duly elected by the populace. Ergo, its authority must be held in check, especially when it infringes upon Constitutionally guaranteed rights and tramples free trade under the guise of safety regulation.
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Old 07-08-2007, 01:02 AM   #7
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I do not see anywhere in the Constitution of the United States that a regulatory agency under the executive branch of government has the authority to make rules regarding the use of arms of their necessary components such as propellants and primers.

There are some ludicrous requirements such as evacuation during an electrical storm that, quite frankly, are not feasible nor common sense filled. As a fire protection specialist, I do believe that some of the requirements I have read are overkill.

Have there been demonstrable increases in work place deaths or injuries as related to the storage, transportation, sales, and use of explosives, much less that of ammunition? If there were, it probably would have been newsworthy.

The proposed regulations would effectively cripple ammunition sales by a regulatory agency. OSHA is not a legislative body, duly elected by the populace. Ergo, its authority must be held in check, especially when it infringes upon Constitutionally guaranteed rights and tramples free trade under the guise of safety regulation.
beautifully put.
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Old 07-08-2007, 10:07 AM   #8
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troylaplante,Same as the BATF/E.But?
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Old 07-08-2007, 11:53 AM   #10
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Just more crap!
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Old 07-08-2007, 12:20 PM   #11
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i posted a comment also
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Old 07-08-2007, 02:16 PM   #12
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Thats some serious B.S !!!
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Old 07-08-2007, 02:44 PM   #13
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troylaplante,Same as the BATF/E.But?
Agreed. It is no different, in my opinion. The only thing the BATF should be doing is to carry out enforcement of law, not making it.
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