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Old 07-30-2007, 08:05 PM   #1
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Very low serial number

My son in law has a mint condition Springfield M1 with serial 024.

Does anybody have an idea of it's value?
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:10 PM   #2
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A mint M1 Garand never fired name your number.
WWII Garand Serial Numbers "SpringField"

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Old 07-30-2007, 08:52 PM   #3
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Holy cow, that link says it's one of the first 80 "tool-room" models.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:29 PM   #4
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Mint Garand

WOW!!! Looks like u may have yourself as piece of history there!!!.
I for one would sure like to see what that gun looks like,please consider posting some photos for us to drool over.Regards.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:37 PM   #5
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Why don't you save a lot of trouble, and just have him fedex it to me? I'll look it over, decide what it's worth and pay him a fair price for it...that way he won't have to go to all the trouble of having it authenticated, etc.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:42 AM   #6
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Yes, Pictures please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you know how he could lay his hands on that rifle????
(is he somehow related to Mr. Garand???)

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Old 07-31-2007, 09:32 AM   #7
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I am a bit confused as there should not be a 0 in front of it. # 24 yes but not # 024 unless you added that when typing you shouldn't have as it is leading me to think it is a 4 digit that is missing some front numbers.

Can you elaborate on this a bit?? Thanks,,Rick B

Well the problem with pricing without detailed photos is that it may be anything until seen. 9 out of 10 times I hear about something it turns out to be nothing to which in this case I hope it is not.

I have never seen a rifle by Springfield Armory with this type of number but the later Springfield who builds guns today may have done it. Also it may be a renumbered gun. It may be a special designation at the Real SA but again without a detailed description on markings and some pictures its not worth anything. I hope it is a rare piece as it could well be in the 10's of thousands if so.

Please let us know or you can have him or yourself call me to go over the rifle,, and no I am not a buyer of high end stuff I would just make sure you are up on what you have. I have helped many people sell rare weapons in the past with no compensation. I just feel better if there helped and not robbed. Let me know and I will give you a toll free number to call me. Thanks,,Rick B

Hey this thing just overwrote my old post when I clicked on a new one. Im confused above and see Chuck has posted a few times but only one shows???? Rick B
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Old 07-31-2007, 11:44 AM   #8
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A mint M1 Garand never fired name your number.
WWII Garand Serial Numbers "SpringField"

Look,s like I will have to pay my son in law another visit. Never expected such response. Here is what I remember from visit last Sunday.

The M1 was given to him by a very close Vietnam buddy when he died. Supposedly his uncle worked at the Springfield armory and was one of the main men who designed the M1. It was given to him for his part in the design.

It is a short rifle and the serial number 024 is in at least two places that I looked at and there IS a 0 in front of the 24.

We do not believe it has ever been fired but I do not kinow how to check for this.

I will take a picture and post next time I visit if possible.

My gtranddaughter is starting at Cal Poly in San Louis Obispo this fall and the reason he may put it on the market if we can determine somewhere near it,s value
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Old 08-01-2007, 06:20 AM   #9
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I am a bit confused as there should not be a 0 in front of it. # 24 yes but not # 024 unless you added that when typing you shouldn't have as it is leading me to think it is a 4 digit that is missing some front numbers.

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Stock Doc,

You have a point there!!!!
I didn't realize that until your post!

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Old 08-01-2007, 11:12 AM   #10
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Contact the cmp, they might help. they have some mint never fired ones from WWII for sale for like $20,000 but those tool room models have got to be worth a LOT more...A LOT.

go here and ask... CMP Discussion Forum
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:22 PM   #11
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Chuck Murray.Yes if you can please post "good"pictures of that M1.Thanks
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I might buy it !!! If my wife will leave town for a few days !!! LMAO. I can't wait to see the pictures....Please hurry and post some and Thanks...A.H
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:14 PM   #13
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The other issue I have is the No U.S. War time Garand manufacture put the serial number on the rifles twice. Something is off here so I will wait until some more info is put up. Thanks,,Rick B
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It is a short rifle and the serial number 024 is in at least two places that I looked at and there IS a 0 in front of the 24.
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Could it be a Tanker M1-unfired?
Two interesting variants that never saw service were the M1E5 and T26 (popularly known as the "Tanker Garand"). The M1E5 is equipped with a folding buttstock, while the T26 uses the standard solid stock, and has a shorter, 18-inch barrel. The "tanker" name was also used after the war as a marketing gimmick for commercially-modified Garands. Another variant that never saw duty was the T20E2. This variant is, at its simplest, a Garand modified to accept Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR) magazines, and has selective fire capability, with semi- and fully-automatic modes. Several Ordnance commands at various organizational levels in the Pacific also modified Garand rifles late in the war to produce both Garand 'Tanker'-type carbines and BAR-magazine-equipped Garands similar to the T20E2, though it is unknown if any of these weapons ever saw actual service.
It cant be an M1 Carbine Springfield never made them.

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I thought about that but that would disprove the theory that SA only made 2 of them. It would be neat if that ws the case but I am thinking it is a CAI receiver that put the serial numbers on the side and then someone had them put on the top???? I am dieing to see this thing so we can figure it out. Rick B
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I thought about that but that would disprove the theory that SA only made 2 of them. It would be neat if that ws the case but I am thinking it is a CAI receiver that put the serial numbers on the side and then someone had them put on the top???? I am dieing to see this thing so we can figure it out. Rick B
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Yes this thread has me crazy,and I don't need more crazy.I'm coming down with carpal tunnel syndrome,looking for this GD 024,S/N M1.A blueprint perfect,never fired tool-room M1 Garand specimen.I just pray Mr Murray comes back with pictures and more information.
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You were right, rushed up to take proof pictures and discovered it is not a Springfield. It is a M1 but it was ,made by Plainfield, may not be correct spelling as I met John for lunch and he gave me the sad news.
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Well.
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Old 08-02-2007, 06:42 AM   #19
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OK, that's a bummer!!!!!!
But is there somebody that know's where the tool romm models are kept???
(ED, Stock Doc, somebody else maybe??)

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Old 08-02-2007, 06:54 AM   #20
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Well that is why the ole saying is "buy the rifle not the story"
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