Federal Permit To Carry Law

Brother Bob · 08-03-2007, 10:02 PM

How many of you travel? I have a permit to carry and I think it's ridiculous to have to check each states laws when I'm driving through and carrying. I've gone through an FBI check and a state check. I'm as clean as they come. I held a "Top Secret Security Clearance" when I was in the Navy! I haven't had as much as a parking ticket since 1982! If Tennessee and Uncle Sam trust me, why not the other 49 states?????? I believe it's time to petition our government for a Federal Firearms Carry Permit, which would be good in all 50 states. Your thoughts????

TexasT · 08-03-2007, 10:27 PM

Too many libbies to let that happen in all states. I think that my right to be able to bear arms should apply to all states though.

troy2000 · 08-03-2007, 10:53 PM

States' rights, my friend. Of course it would be simpler all the way around to have only federal laws and dump the state ones. But do you really want some bozos in Washington writing the gun laws (and all the others) for Tennessee?

Look what's happened with the 'No Child Left Behind' Act, where the Republicans did a one-eighty after years of proclaiming that local control to meet local conditions was best for schools.

Careful what you wish for; you may get it...

Brother Bob · 08-04-2007, 07:19 AM

The idea I had was that after you got your state permit, you could then apply for a Federal permit. Kind of like a U.S hunting license or a U.S. fishing license. I don't need a passport or a permit to drive from one state to another. On the boundary of Texas and Oklahoma, lies Lake Texoma. It's a huge lake. People with Oklahoma fishing licenses were required to stay on the Oklahoma side of the old river channel. The folks from Texas were required to stay on the Texas side. This created a problem, so they came up with a "Texoma License" which allowed both state residents to fish the whole lake. Of course you had to have a State License from either Texas or Oklahoma to go with it. The point I'm trying to make is that states should work with their neighbors for the betterment of all. If I'm legal in Oklahoma, Texas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Arkansas, etc............Why shouldn't the other states aknowledge the fact? Most police officers carry from state to state, out of their jurisdiction, without any problems. I believe this would resolve a lot of issues at hand and make it less stressful for the legal minded folks who are not a threat to others. Just chewing the fat. Have a great day......

Rufus Rhastus J · 08-04-2007, 09:02 AM

It's a good idea but, you know how that goes.....

Big Dog · 08-04-2007, 09:34 AM

What is needed is simply total reciprocity - like with driver's licenses - you can drive anywhere in the US with a state DL - should be the same with CCW.
I too went through more security checks in the USN and later working security - the Feds have a file drawer on me in some dark office somewhere. We gun-owners get our criminal records checked everytime we buy a gun.
A CCW should be easier to get than it is, and should apply everywhere!

troylaplante · 08-04-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

States' rights, my friend.

On the other hand, this is one of the specifically enumerated provisions in the federal constitution. The RKBA being infringed is not a state's right, but that doesn't seem to matter. I find it ironic that when a state attempts to do something about illegal immigration, they are told that it is a federal level issue and not theirs. Yet, a state can make all the RKBA infringements it wants, apparently.

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Originally Posted by troy2000

Look what's happened with the 'No Child Left Behind' Act, where the Republicans did a one-eighty after years of proclaiming that local control to meet local conditions was best for schools.

Disgusting, I know. This is one of the reasons why I am not a Republican any more.

Brother Bob · 08-04-2007, 09:50 AM

Years ago, there was an NRA convention, up north. The state police of a certain state was pulling over people with out of state plates and siezing firearms left and right. All involved had a FFL. A lot of the weapons were of museum quality and probably hadn't been fired in a hundred years. If I recall, they were just driving through this state to get to their final destination. I know it created one Hell of a stink! If you recall what the outcome was, please share it.

Rave · 08-04-2007, 10:36 AM

It sounds like some folks were driveing on a trip,made a wrong turn,and wound up in a septic tank.

Seriously,it seems likeit was Kansas,some state that you would not think would behave like that,might have involved federal funding as the ATF wanted grist for ther mill,in this case their new computer.

Triggerjerk · 08-04-2007, 12:13 PM

I am originally from PA. My older brother is a lawyer there. He has a carry permit. I checked with him to make sure this law in PA still holds true. Here it is: You can carry your gun with a PA permit anywhere in the state except Philly and Pittsburgh. There is an example of having a state permit that is not good all over the state.

Brother Bob · 08-04-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Triggerjerk

I am originally from PA. My older brother is a lawyer there. He has a carry permit. I checked with him to make sure this law in PA still holds true. Here it is: You can carry your gun with a PA permit anywhere in the state except Philly and Pittsburgh. There is an example of having a state permit that is not good all over the state.

I believe I heard that Philadelphia is now the murder capital of the country. Gee, no handguns in Philly. Hell, that's where you need them!

cubbieman · 08-04-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

States' rights, my friend. Of course it would be simpler all the way around to have only federal laws and dump the state ones. But do you really want some bozos in Washington writing the gun laws (and all the others) for Tennessee?

Look what's happened with the 'No Child Left Behind' Act, where the Republicans did a one-eighty after years of proclaiming that local control to meet local conditions was best for schools.

Careful what you wish for; you may get it...

we need to get rid of all federal laws except for those stating rights that the states can nor revoke and get the federal government back to just the very basic functions of a government

troy2000 · 08-04-2007, 07:58 PM

I agree that reciprocity is the intelligent way to go, like driver's licenses are now: if you're passing through, or visiting for a reasonable amount of time, another state's CCW permit should be honored.

But here in California, I believer there are County Sheriffs who won't even honor CCW's issued by the Sheriff of another County in the state. Hopefully, sooner or later someone will go to court and put a stop to that nonsense.

cubbieman · 08-04-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

I agree that reciprocity is the intelligent way to go, like driver's licenses are now: if you're passing through, or visiting for a reasonable amount of time, another state's CCW permit should be honored.

that is a good option

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But here in California, I believer there are County Sheriffs who won't even honor CCW's issued by the Sheriff of another County in the state. Hopefully, sooner or later someone will go to court and put a stop to that nonsense.

california has alot of issues

CrazyIvan · 08-04-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasT

Too many libbies to let that happen in all states. I think that my right to be able to bear arms should apply to all states though.

Not only that, but then they couldn't make NEARLY as much cash...

troy2000 · 08-04-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasT

Too many libbies to let that happen in all states. I think that my right to be able to bear arms should apply to all states though.

You might be surprised at the number of conservatives who give lip service to the right to bear arms, but really think it should only apply to themselves, their families and friends, and people they approve of.

It wasn't liberals who set up that cockamamie situation troylaplante describes in N. Carolina, where the local sheriff gets to decide who can and can't have handguns...

Brother Bob · 08-05-2007, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

You might be surprised at the number of conservatives who give lip service to the right to bear arms, but really think it should only apply to themselves, their families and friends, and people they approve of.

It wasn't liberals who set up that cockamamie situation troylaplante describes in N. Carolina, where the local sheriff gets to decide who can and can't have handguns...

You are discribing the "Anti-Gun" Liberals. Rosie O'Donnell comes to mind. A true Conservative believes in the 2nd Ammendment for all, not just some.......... Maybe they were looking at the crime statistics. Over 90% of crimes are commited by Democrats. Take away the guns from Democrats and the world would be much safer, huh? LMAO

troy2000 · 08-05-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bob

You are discribing the "Anti-Gun" Liberals. Rosie O'Donnell comes to mind. A true Conservative believes in the 2nd Ammendment for all, not just some.......... Maybe they were looking at the crime statistics. Over 90% of crimes are commited by Democrats. Take away the guns from Democrats and the world would be much safer, huh? LMAO

You've been taking lessons from the American Petroleum Institute's campaign against global warning, Brother Bob: throw out bogus statistics and confuse the issue...

If Democrats are all gun-hating liberals, how can they be commiting all the murders and robberies? Are they using semi-auto 2x4's or something instead?

Rave · 08-05-2007, 11:18 AM

I dunno,it just seems like Democrats(The liberal ones,not all) don't want other folks to have guns,it' OK if they or their body guards have them.of course.

knightRider · 08-05-2007, 11:58 AM

i carry everywere

08-03-2007, 10:02 PM	#1
Brother Bob The Mayor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olive Branch, MS. Posts: 2,691 Blog Entries: 3	Federal Permit To Carry Law How many of you travel? I have a permit to carry and I think it's ridiculous to have to check each states laws when I'm driving through and carrying. I've gone through an FBI check and a state check. I'm as clean as they come. I held a "Top Secret Security Clearance" when I was in the Navy! I haven't had as much as a parking ticket since 1982! If Tennessee and Uncle Sam trust me, why not the other 49 states?????? I believe it's time to petition our government for a Federal Firearms Carry Permit, which would be good in all 50 states. Your thoughts????

08-03-2007, 10:27 PM	#2
TexasT Mrs. HMFIC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Everywhere you want to be. Posts: 4,225 Blog Entries: 16	Too many libbies to let that happen in all states. I think that my right to be able to bear arms should apply to all states though. __________________ I'm just a little bit caught in the middle. Life is a maze. Love is a riddle.

08-03-2007, 10:53 PM	#3
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,471 Images: 9	States' rights, my friend. Of course it would be simpler all the way around to have only federal laws and dump the state ones. But do you really want some bozos in Washington writing the gun laws (and all the others) for Tennessee? Look what's happened with the 'No Child Left Behind' Act, where the Republicans did a one-eighty after years of proclaiming that local control to meet local conditions was best for schools. Careful what you wish for; you may get it... __________________ If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -Anatole France

08-04-2007, 07:19 AM	#4
Brother Bob The Mayor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olive Branch, MS. Posts: 2,691 Blog Entries: 3	The idea I had was that after you got your state permit, you could then apply for a Federal permit. Kind of like a U.S hunting license or a U.S. fishing license. I don't need a passport or a permit to drive from one state to another. On the boundary of Texas and Oklahoma, lies Lake Texoma. It's a huge lake. People with Oklahoma fishing licenses were required to stay on the Oklahoma side of the old river channel. The folks from Texas were required to stay on the Texas side. This created a problem, so they came up with a "Texoma License" which allowed both state residents to fish the whole lake. Of course you had to have a State License from either Texas or Oklahoma to go with it. The point I'm trying to make is that states should work with their neighbors for the betterment of all. If I'm legal in Oklahoma, Texas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Arkansas, etc............Why shouldn't the other states aknowledge the fact? Most police officers carry from state to state, out of their jurisdiction, without any problems. I believe this would resolve a lot of issues at hand and make it less stressful for the legal minded folks who are not a threat to others. Just chewing the fat. Have a great day...... Last edited by Brother Bob; 08-04-2007 at 08:50 AM.

08-04-2007, 09:02 AM	#5
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	It's a good idea but, you know how that goes..... __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

08-04-2007, 09:34 AM	#6
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,219	What is needed is simply total reciprocity - like with driver's licenses - you can drive anywhere in the US with a state DL - should be the same with CCW. I too went through more security checks in the USN and later working security - the Feds have a file drawer on me in some dark office somewhere. We gun-owners get our criminal records checked everytime we buy a gun. A CCW should be easier to get than it is, and should apply everywhere! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

08-04-2007, 09:50 AM	#8
Brother Bob The Mayor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olive Branch, MS. Posts: 2,691 Blog Entries: 3	Years ago, there was an NRA convention, up north. The state police of a certain state was pulling over people with out of state plates and siezing firearms left and right. All involved had a FFL. A lot of the weapons were of museum quality and probably hadn't been fired in a hundred years. If I recall, they were just driving through this state to get to their final destination. I know it created one Hell of a stink! If you recall what the outcome was, please share it.

08-04-2007, 10:36 AM	#9
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,877	It sounds like some folks were driveing on a trip,made a wrong turn,and wound up in a septic tank. Seriously,it seems likeit was Kansas,some state that you would not think would behave like that,might have involved federal funding as the ATF wanted grist for ther mill,in this case their new computer. __________________ USAF '62-'66 . Last edited by Rave; 08-04-2007 at 10:40 AM.

08-04-2007, 12:13 PM	#10
Triggerjerk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 978	I am originally from PA. My older brother is a lawyer there. He has a carry permit. I checked with him to make sure this law in PA still holds true. Here it is: You can carry your gun with a PA permit anywhere in the state except Philly and Pittsburgh. There is an example of having a state permit that is not good all over the state. __________________ We old dogs can learn new tricks. We just may not like performng them. TJ

08-04-2007, 07:58 PM	#13
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,471 Images: 9	I agree that reciprocity is the intelligent way to go, like driver's licenses are now: if you're passing through, or visiting for a reasonable amount of time, another state's CCW permit should be honored. But here in California, I believer there are County Sheriffs who won't even honor CCW's issued by the Sheriff of another County in the state. Hopefully, sooner or later someone will go to court and put a stop to that nonsense. __________________ If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -Anatole France

08-05-2007, 11:18 AM	#19
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,877	I dunno,it just seems like Democrats(The liberal ones,not all) don't want other folks to have guns,it' OK if they or their body guards have them.of course. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

08-05-2007, 11:58 AM	#20
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,683 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 11	i carry everywere __________________ I'm part kalishnakov, part heckler and Koch.