shrub, Titegroup will put Unique to shame in almost every aspect. Unique was a fine powder in its' day but Titegroup burns cleaner, produces more energy, and meters better. The only area that Unique is better in, IMO, is filling the case. I've never used it in a .45 but, I can almost guarantee that you'll be happy with it.
thanks guys, thats what i wanted to hear. I was starting to get sick of the unique so decided to switch. It says "cleaner burning" on the bottle but i dont belive it. seams like half the powder charge endid up on my hand when i ejected my cases!
I used Unique, Tite Group and Clays. I'll load friends with the Unique, Tite group is clean, but leaves a stain on your brass and is accurate. Clays is the cleanest, [ softest recoil] and groups are equal to to Tite Group. Both T/G and Clays is economical. Unique is filthy.
4.8 gr T/G /185gr HBRN's or 4.0 gr Clays/ 185 gr HBRN berry's are accurate. My Springer Loaded Champ [4"] loves this load.
Has anybody tried Titegroup in a shotgun load?
I did , Hodgdon has a loading chart on their website, i went of of that ... i tried both 15 and 18 grains of tg , 18 seems a little hot ...15 ok, I think 16 -17 would be just right.
Thats with AA hulls win 209's CB's wads 1 1/8 oz shot, the load is within specs with any mix though , check it out yourself first.... of course, ..... never use a load without verifying it's useable
Last edited by johndavid24; 01-14-2008 at 10:03 AM.
New to the forum and may be doing this wrong, if so I apologize but I have a question.
I recently purchased Titegroup after years of using Unique for revolver, and recently 911. What I seem to be finding is that Titegroup provides very little volume when compared to Unique. Is that correct, or am I doing something very wrong here? I've not yet closed anything up with the little powder that seems to weigh out at 4.9 grains. Checked my scale against known weight and it seems as accurate as always.
One of the first things I noticed when I started using Titegroup for .45 ACP was the apparent low loading density. Seems to work just fine though. No ignition problems with several hundred rounds so far. Sure meters consistently in my RCBS Uniflow.
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Titegroup and Clays are great powders. They are much cleaner than my former standard all around pistol powder W231/HP38. The claim is also made that Titegroup is not sensitive to position despite its low loading density. It is very economical, but the bugaboo of double charges is present because of its small volume.
I would caution anyone to strive for an accurate loading and then stop there. Both Titegroup and Clays are faster powders and not suitable for upper edge of the envelope of .45 ACP etc. performance.
With those caveats in mind, you should find Titegroup(and Clays) to be extremely satisfactory in anything from .380ACP to 45 Colt.
Thanks guys. I truly had my doubts that enough powder was being measured out to cause a big enough boom to push the slug out the barrel. I'll load 'em up, keeping them some on the light side, and see how they work.
It's really nice to have a lot of experience at my finger tips like this forum provides.
depending on the reloading manual they may have you loading light anyhow. I know Speer has max charge on 9mm 115gr round nose at 4.5gr at COAL of 1.135, but Hogdon has it at 4.3 with COAL or 1.1 and 4.8 with COAL of 1.125, and you still have about 2k CUP to spare. I am loading 4.8gr with COAL of 1.137 and seeing no over pressure signs. I am going to juice it up to 5gr and 1.137 COAL once I chrono the 4.8gr loads. The reloading manuals usually give you a good safe load even at their high end.