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Old 08-05-2007, 11:15 AM   #1
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Freedom of The Press or Treason???

Who is leaking classified material to the New York Times? Who, in the Times is deciding to print the same, sometimes jepordizing the safety of our troops and compromising operations. Why hasn't the government brought these people to trial? Look at what happened to Skooter Libby and he's not the one who leaked her name(Valerie Plame)! She was not a covert agent at the time, either. He was set up because he couldn't remember accounts from two or three years ago. Neither could others, who testified. No wonder President Bush pardoned him....... There are those that have done a lot more damage than "leaking" a name. Your thoughts on the demise of ethics in the "drive-by-media"?????
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:40 AM   #2
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I tell you there is no war on terrorists! It's all one big lie and part of the greater conspiracy to disenfranchise all Americans, pay back bush's buds, cause gas prices to go up and bring about the new world order. to me, it's just business as usual. They don't arrest these slobs because there is no real crimes committed. They leak what they want to leak to the media. Get real, you know the games they play. For example, the latest with churnov (sp.?) "feeling" like we gonna get hit....suddenly, the boogie man appears in tapes just on cue. You don't really believe word from this white house do you?
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:51 AM   #3
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I say Treason!I know if I committed a Federal leak, I'd never see the light of day again.Seems our Government leaders are weak and pointless,for the big money people.
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Who is leaking classified material to the New York Times? Who, in the Times is deciding to print the same, sometimes jepordizing the safety of our troops and compromising operations. Why hasn't the government brought these people to trial? Look at what happened to Skooter Libby and he's not the one who leaked her name(Valerie Plame)! She was not a covert agent at the time, either. He was set up because he couldn't remember accounts from two or three years ago. Neither could others, who testified. No wonder President Bush pardoned him....... There are those that have done a lot more damage than "leaking" a name. Your thoughts on the demise of ethics in the "drive-by-media"?????
Actually, the biggest leaker to the New York Times is the Bush Administration itself, Bob. Remember Judith Miller and all the articles she wrote backing the case for war in Iraq, based on leaks from un-named senior administration officials?

I'd be curious to see exactly what you think the Times has printed that endangers the safety of our troops.

Your use of the term "drive-by-media" makes it fairly obvious where you're getting your world view, and I don't think you formed your opinion of the New York Times by actually reading it.

When it comes to Scooter Libby, apparently he never learned one of the first things I taught my children: lying about something you did will get you into more trouble than what you actually did.

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I tell you there is no war on terrorists! It's all one big lie and part of the greater conspiracy to disenfranchise all Americans, pay back bush's buds, cause gas prices to go up and bring about the new world order. to me, it's just business as usual. They don't arrest these slobs because there is no real crimes committed. They leak what they want to leak to the media. Get real, you know the games they play. For example, the latest with churnov (sp.?) "feeling" like we gonna get hit....suddenly, the boogie man appears in tapes just on cue. You don't really believe word from this white house do you?
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I tell you there is no war on terrorists! It's all one big lie and part of the greater conspiracy to disenfranchise all Americans, pay back bush's buds, cause gas prices to go up and bring about the new world order. to me, it's just business as usual. They don't arrest these slobs because there is no real crimes committed. They leak what they want to leak to the media. Get real, you know the games they play. For example, the latest with churnov (sp.?) "feeling" like we gonna get hit....suddenly, the boogie man appears in tapes just on cue. You don't really believe word from this white house do you?
I think you've been watching The View too much. LMAO
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I think it was summed up pretty well when my sis-in-law said "The whole world's gone whacco."
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Old 08-05-2007, 09:43 PM   #10
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Troy's right; the government uses the media to disseminate information or misinformation depending on what agenda they are trying to push.

The reason noone is being charged is because it IS the government on both sides leaking info.

And Bush didn't pardon Libby; he commuted his prison sentence.
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I think you've been watching The View too much. LMAO
I think you are being a mean man! Where are the moderators when you need them? They need to ban you, you mean man, you!

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Old 08-06-2007, 10:53 AM   #12
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yo,Rufus,every one in the white house has skelitons in their closets,and everyone knows that they know,kind of like the balanceing act of mutual destruction.
Consiquently,nothing will be done and the band will play on,(while the ship sinks,)
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Your thoughts on the demise of ethics in the "drive-by-media"?????
"Drive-By-Media" ??

Dude, you gotta quit listening to Limbaugh...that guy is a whack job who has no clue what the real American goes through on a daily basis. He's too busy popping pills and having himself waited on hand & foot to know what we go through. He is a silverspoon and just a twisted individual.

I think the Media is, like much of this country, corporate owned. And, because of that, they cater to their base to make money. They don't care what we go through. 2 Seconds spent on a local soldier's lost life. 20-minutes spent on how an illegal immigrant lost their bank account rights.

Limbaugh, however, is no better. His lord, Bush, can do no wrong in his eyes. He complains about liberals and democrats...well guess when he began to get all of his glory...when Clinton was in office. Did he ever thank Clinton for making him famous? NOPE.

Not to say that Dems & Libs are any better than today's republicans. I am a conservative liberal, and I can't stand most of our govt. in any office. There are a select few I agree with, but for the most part, YUCK! And as far as the media...they aren't any better. Best bet is to get your news from a plethora of sources, so as to get a better perspective on the truth behind the matter.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:29 AM   #14
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I watched a college professor on C-Span about a year ago and if from what he said is half true then the POWERS THAT BE's grand design, is for America to be like the Roman Empire and Bush is a key player.
He went on to say Bush was behind 911 or knew it was comeing.
To be honest this professor seemed honest, in his spill about whats going on and in a way it does seem there's something going on and maybe a group of who knows who are trying to have a new World Order.
My thinking is it's possible ? But not for years to come surely. With China building there military mite and Russia begining to rebuild there military under Putin you would wonder what does lye down the road for the Whole World. Under these circomstance's I can't see America being another Roman Empire.
Is it in preperation for the Anti-Christ to appear ? Is it OIL ? Or Greed ?
Since I'm home a lot and watch T.V. I get the impression that our own goverment is trying to make PEASENTS out of us, it looks like they want to take away our Rights and Constitution and change the course of the American way. To there way.
Though were in Irah fighting for there Democrocy I wonder why we seem to be looseing it here. Time will tell.
Another observation I have is the debt we owe China and the fault were finding with the imports we buy from them such as Pet Food thats contamninated, High Levels of Lead found in there products, ect.
Have the powers that be found away to turn the tables on China due to the money they've loaned the U.S ? Could it be a big bust in Chinas economy in the future ?
Yes I'm ranting some here but It's seems this country has some great minds in high places wether they be good or evil because when the World economy is in trouble the United States endures it.
Enough said in closing I'll ask... For the People, by the People Is that phrase still mean any thing any more ?...A.H
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Old 08-06-2007, 01:49 PM   #15
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Good rant. Any rant is good because it exposes one to different ideas.It's too bad that many will not tolerate a single word that does not fit into their neat litle world.
I think we might all be better off if we listened more with an open mind.
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Doesnt this thread belong in the "humor forum"???It made me laugh. samuel.
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It is getting kinda funky and way off topic.OH in my view.
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I agree,,zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:52 PM   #19
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I think you are being a mean man! Where are the moderators when you need them? They need to ban you, you mean man, you!
Hey Alan, are you being mean, too?
NO SIR: By the way Rosie O"idiot doesn't speak for me.
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Rufus not many people understand the Gov. Game.

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If you guys think Rufus is way off on his views then maybe you should do your own research.
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I know I'm an outlaw but it's time to lock this topic down.Before?
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