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Old 08-06-2007, 03:34 PM   #1
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Report: Pentagon Has Lost Track of 190,000 AK-47s Given to Iraqi Security Forces

.. Let me get this strait, we've got half our government wanting to take away our arms, but yet they lose 190,000 firearms.... in the middle east. Am I the only one who sees a major problem here?

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Report: Pentagon Has Lost Track of 190,000 AK-47s Given to Iraqi Security Forces
Monday, August 06, 2007
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The Pentagon has lost track of 190,000 AK-47 rifles and pistols given to Iraqi security forces, the Washington Post reported.

The Government Accountability Office is reportedly conducting a review after a July 31 report revealed that Iraqi insurgents may have gotten their hands on weapons and body armor intended to equip Iraqi troops. One senior Pentagon official told the Post that some of the weapons likely are being used against U.S. forces.

Meanwhile, the violence in Iraq continued unabated Monday as a homicide bomber slammed his truck into a densely populated residential area in the northern Iraqi city of Tal Afar on Monday, killing at least 28 people, police said. Most of the dead were women and children, the mayor said.

A bomber slammed his truck into a densely populated residential area in the northern Iraqi city of Tal Afar on Monday, killing at least 28 people, including 19 children, local authorities said.

The attack occurred in a crowded Shiite neighborhood of the religiously mixed city, about 250 miles northwest of Baghdad.

The powerful blast caused houses to collapse in the morning as many families were getting ready for the day, and officials said the death toll could rise.

"Rescue teams are still searching for casualties among the rubble," said Ali Abbo, the head of the human rights committee.

He said the hospital in Tal Afar had been filled to capacity, forcing the ambulances to take many victims to Dahuk, about 45 miles to the north. At least 40 others were wounded, said Brig. Gen. Rahim al-Jibouri, commander of Tal Afar police.

The attacker drove a dump truck filled with explosives and covered with a layer of gravel, Brig. Gen. Najim Abdullah said, adding that at least 19 children were among the 28 killed.

Within an hour of the attack, authorities imposed a complete curfew on the city, he said.

In Baghdad, lawmakers said that five Cabinet ministers loyal to Iraq's first post-Saddam leader will boycott government meetings, further deepening the political crisis that threatens to swamp the administration of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

The boycott of the Iraqiya List ministers loyal to former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi leaves the government, at least temporarily, with no Sunni participants. It was a deep blow to al-Maliki's attempts to reconcile the country's majority Shiites and minority Sunnis and Kurds.

Iraqiya List lawmaker Iyad Jamal-Aldin said the Allawi bloc decided to boycott because al-Maliki has failed to respond to demands for political reform issued five months ago. He said the boycott was not tied to the decision last week by the top Sunni political bloc to pull its six ministers out of the 40-member Cabinet.

The Iraqi Accordance Front left the government Aug. 1 because of al-Maliki's failure to respond to a set of demands, including the release of security detainees not charged with specific crimes, the disbanding of militias and the participation of all groups represented in the government in dealing with security issues.

The latest boycott raises to 17 the number of government ministers who have either suspended membership or quit this year.

The U.S. and Iranian ambassadors met Monday for their third round of talks in just over two months. A U.S. embassy spokesman called the talks between U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker and his counterpart, Hassan Kazemi Qomi, "frank and serious."

The meeting, which lasted about two hours, came after U.S., Iraqi and Iranian experts held their first talks as part of a security subcommittee, according to the U.S. Embassy.

At the subcommittee meeting, the Iranian delegation criticized what it called America's "suspicious" security approach toward Iraq and called for "a change in the broad policies and approach of the U.S.," according to the official Islamic Republic News Agency.

In other violence, a U.S. soldier was killed and two were wounded Sunday during fighting in eastern Baghdad, the military said. Eastern Baghdad is predominantly Shiite and has seen frequent attacks on U.S. forces by Shiite militia fighters.

Elsewhere, 60 bodies were found in a mainly Sunni area that had been under the control of al-Qaida in Iraq west of Baqouba, according to a Diyala provincial police official. U.S. and Iraqi forces recently have touted successes in an operation aimed at restoring control in the volatile region northeast of Baghdad.

At least 29 people were killed or found dead in other parts of Iraq, according to police who spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to disclose the information.

Meanwhile, authorities girded for a major Shiite pilgrimage later this week in Baghdad to commemorate the 8th century death of Imam Moussa ibn Jaafar al-Kadhim, one of the 12 principal Shiite saints who is buried in a mosque in the northern neighborhood of Kazimiyah.

The procession was struck by tragedy in 2005, when thousands of pilgrims panicked by rumors of a suicide bomber broke into a stampede on a bridge, leaving some 1,000 dead. Police later said no explosives were found on the bridge and poor crowd control and the climate of fear in Iraq were largely to blame. Sunni insurgents have often targeted such gatherings to foment sectarian war.

Brig. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi, an Iraqi military spokesman for Baghdad, said security forces would intensify checkpoints during this week's pilgrimage and marchers would be banned from carrying weapons, cell phones and even bags. It was not clear those restrictions would be enforced.

Al-Moussawi said the government was also considering a driving ban but had not made a decision.
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:37 PM   #2
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Not any worse than the thousands and thousands of pounds of explosives they allowed to be taken from an Iraqi weapons cache shortly after invasion in 2003.
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:01 PM   #3
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Must be nice to get free guns! Well...somebody got 'em!
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:24 PM   #4
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how does the pentagon lose 190,000 firearms to our enemies? to be used againist our own troops!! sounds like an inside job to me!!!!
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:25 PM   #5
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The last death count I saw on TV was several months ago and it had topped 7,000,000,mostly civilians,of course.
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:52 PM   #6
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190,000 aks, hmmmmm NRA joe has been very busy
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:52 AM   #7
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I wonder who manufactured the AK's
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:19 AM   #8
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190,000 AK's,that's a lot to misplace,still,only a drop in the bucket of money wasted,only to be turned against us.
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:43 AM   #9
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I know for a fact a large cash of guns like 190,000 AK47s,are guarded with loaded guns the same as gold is.
Definitely an inside job done by or friends the Iraqi Government Troops.
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:46 PM   #10
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Wow...

I find this both humorous and very scary...
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:49 PM   #11
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Does Iraq even have 190,000 security forces? There aren't even that many cops in the United States, and we have 300+ million citizens. Iraq has what? 3.5 to 5 Million people?

What were these 190,000 originally designated for?

The plot thickens?
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:02 PM   #12
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All right,time to fess up.Which one of you gun gluttons looking for a great deal tricked the ragheads into this?I believe it was a member.Whoever did it please post a picture of 190k ak,s.I never saw that many at once. samuel.
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I didn't promise them more virgins....
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Old 08-07-2007, 03:10 PM   #14
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For Sale: Brand New AK 47's $ 150.00 dollars for 2 and $ 75.00 for 2 to Gun and Game members.
Better get one while there HOT ! This offer may not last very long...Call BR549 and ask for Junior............................................ .......................................kidding
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If I had 190,000 AK's, I would keep them all, not sale a one. Then I would post pictures on all the gun forums and become the most popular person on the net. I would far surpass the ammo fort guy. People all over the world would be talking about my AK fort pictures....
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Yea, Pred, and they'd be knockin' down your door, throwing you in jail without trial, taking everything from you and playing the liberal/socialist/communistic card, turning you into a "whacko" in the minds of most people across the country/world.
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Yeah,and then there's NRA Joe to worry about!
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Better check those AK47.NET guys - see if they had a big GROUP BUY recently . . .
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I didn't promise them more virgins....
Let them come this way and we will make sure they get Virginians, though.
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Does Iraq even have 190,000 security forces? There aren't even that many cops in the United States, and we have 300+ million citizens. Iraq has what? 3.5 to 5 Million people?

What were these 190,000 originally designated for?

The plot thickens?
There are approxmately 18,760 separate police agencies in the U.S. with approximately 940,275 employees and a combined budget of about $51 billion.
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