Missing. The. Point.

Coeloptera · 08-17-2007, 02:37 PM

Mens' Looks: A 'Retrosexual' Comeback - Newsweek Periscope - MSNBC.com

“George's quest for maximum hirsuteness isn't as unusual as it may sound. He's part of a growing group of ‘retrosexuals’—men who shun metrosexuality, with its often feminine esthetic, in favor of old-school masculinity. Cosmetic and hair-transplant surgeons on both coasts report increases in patients seeking a more rugged look: hairier chests and beards, squarer chins, more angular jaw lines. Dr. Paul Nassif, a well-known Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, has noticed the change in the photos patients bring in to show him their ideal image. A few years ago ‘they were bringing in a pretty-boy look,’ he says. Now, though, the requests are different: ‘ 'Give me a big, strong, manlier chin',’ he says.”

If you go to the plastic surgeon’s…in Beverly Hills…to become “manlier”. You are not manly. You never were manly. And you will never be manly.

Try, I dunno…working out a bit? Take up an active hobby? Something outdoorsy? Maybe a martial art? I’d like to slap every one of these men, hard, in their resculpted faces until they scream like the little sissy-marys they are.

- Coeloptera

CrazyIvan · 08-17-2007, 03:11 PM

Quite the tribute to the fact that what you see is NOT ALWAYS what you get, eh?

AK Hunter · 08-17-2007, 03:45 PM

They need the POPEYE outlook on fashon.

"I am what I am"

You don't like it tough!

troy2000 · 08-17-2007, 04:09 PM

Somehow I don't think you can really transplant or implant masculinity, no matter how much you pay.

ezearln · 08-17-2007, 04:11 PM

Hmmm I was always taught there's one heck of a difference in being masculine and being a MAN. Thoughts on that anyone?

Big Dog · 08-17-2007, 05:07 PM

"Real chicks dig real men!"

Nuff said.

Casull · 08-17-2007, 05:14 PM

Quote:

If you go to the plastic surgeon’s…in Beverly Hills…to become “manlier”. You are not manly. You never were manly. And you will never be manly.

Try, I dunno…working out a bit? Take up an active hobby? Something outdoorsy? Maybe a martial art? I’d like to slap every one of these men, hard, in their resculpted faces until they scream like the little sissy-marys they are.

- Coeloptera

ROFLMAO

just_a_car · 08-17-2007, 05:51 PM

I guess they didn't listen to thier fathers when told something was good for and that it would grow hair on your chest or build character.

Had they done that, they wouldn't have to be paying for fake hairy chests or fake character.

I don't have that issue, I've got both.

ezearln · 08-17-2007, 05:54 PM

Have both what??? a fake hairy chest and a fake character? I find that hard to believe!

alan c. · 08-17-2007, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezearln

Hmmm I was always taught there's one heck of a difference in being masculine and being a MAN. Thoughts on that anyone?

I don't know about you earl but those very masculine models that do the magazines--most do not like females. Now thats very manly.

ezearln · 08-17-2007, 06:17 PM

LOL Well Alan all I can say is I really really like the female sex and there is nothing prettier on em to me than a sweet smile happy eyes and a well filled out pair of jeans! But then I guess I'm just too manly fer my own good !

alan c. · 08-17-2007, 07:14 PM

Been married for 23 years. I hope you didn't take that last comment wrong. I was just saying those guy-females are just plain wrong.

Cyrille · 08-17-2007, 08:01 PM

I havta go with ez on this "ain't nutthin like a dame."

Triggerjerk · 08-17-2007, 08:05 PM

To be honest, I really do not care about the personal lives and pop culture fads of others, as long as it does not hurt me. Now, I used to have an upstairs neighbor that smoked dope and drank at night until he fell unconscious. He always got up late and ran out the door on four hours of sleep. He took his barely functional self to an auto shop where he worked on peoples' brakes. That concerned me. If somebody wants a chest hair transplant, that does not concern me...

troy2000 · 08-17-2007, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triggerjerk

To be honest, I really do not care about the personal lives and pop culture fads of others, as long as it does not hurt me. Now, I used to have an upstairs neighbor that smoked dope and drank at night until he fell unconscious. He always got up late and ran out the door on four hours of sleep. He took his barely functional self to an auto shop where he worked on peoples' brakes. That concerned me. If somebody wants a chest hair transplant, that does not concern me...

But it does amuse me...

Big Dog · 08-18-2007, 04:52 AM

Hairy-chested Girliemen . . . EEEWWWW!!

Dang, put me right off breakfast . . .

Dallas · 08-18-2007, 08:22 AM

Hairy chested girliemen, LMAO, that is a great one. It about summons up the whole situation. The fellows getting the surgery seemed to have missed the whole point about being a man.

Rave · 08-18-2007, 08:29 AM

Chest hair implants,I never heard of that one before,oh well....

Brother Bob · 08-18-2007, 08:35 AM

Never had that problem. I've got hair growing in places that people ought not have hair! I just hate looking down and seeing a hair on my shirt, pulling it off, only to find it's attached! I'll be more than happy to donate hair to anyone that needs some! My wife made me shave my beard and moustache years ago. She said she was afraid someone would mistake me for a blue eyed, blond haired bear and shoot me! I believe we may have a long, hard winter. My coat is getting real thick and I feel sleepy all the time

Coeloptera · 08-18-2007, 07:03 PM

Heh...the responses made me glad I started this thread.

But yes, there is a difference between being "masculine" and being "a man".

And it isn't fashion.

Me? I wear my hair long, condition it, manicure my nails when I can (myself), and like nice clothes.

My knuckles are almost always healing from bruises from my Krav Maga class, if a nail gets torn I file it back down and go on with my life, I've cut scar tissue out of my own shoulder when it was bothering me, and the dentist can do his worst, long as I get to keep my teeth in my head.

You wanna be more masculine? It's not in how you look. It's in what you do and how you act. I come home from class with sore knuckles and I moisturize my hands because my skin's toughening up fine without nasty-looking callouses. I can shoot pretty well, am decent in a fight, but I watch cartoons and do my own clothing alterations.

I've found, honestly, I'm about as manly as I want to be, and no one ever seems to take me for a sissy, despite the fact that I'm not hosing the floor down with testosterone. (Okay granted, I'm 6'3" and 210lbs).

It's not that it somehow disturbs my life to see this sort of trend, but it makes me bemoan the falsity of our culture, where image trumps reality. I cannot imagine what it must be like to be the sort of person who sees this nonsense as a viable path to "masculinity" as opposed to some genuine self-improvement. I would think most men could find something traditionally masculine that they like. It's not all shooting and fighting, you know.

Try rock-climbing, a nice sport (many non-contact sports can be considered very manly, like swimming - look at how the ladies like swimmers' builds), maybe learn about the history of warfare and tactics...something.

I find, amusingly enough, that one particular activity makes me feel in proper touch with my masculinity, despite the fact that it's actually removing a sign of my maleness. I used to get terrible razor burn for years, nothing ever seemed to help, until I took up shaving with a straight-razor. Now there's a uniquely masculine activity. I've never had a smoother or more comfortable shave in my life. It's pretty fun to do, and women just seem to love watching you do it, and the results. I also like it because, while I'm pretty forward-looking, some traditional men's activities are just so damn cool.

- Coeloptera

08-17-2007, 02:37 PM	#1
Coeloptera Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,408 Trader Rating: (0)	Missing. The. Point. Mens' Looks: A 'Retrosexual' Comeback - Newsweek Periscope - MSNBC.com “George's quest for maximum hirsuteness isn't as unusual as it may sound. He's part of a growing group of ‘retrosexuals’—men who shun metrosexuality, with its often feminine esthetic, in favor of old-school masculinity. Cosmetic and hair-transplant surgeons on both coasts report increases in patients seeking a more rugged look: hairier chests and beards, squarer chins, more angular jaw lines. Dr. Paul Nassif, a well-known Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, has noticed the change in the photos patients bring in to show him their ideal image. A few years ago ‘they were bringing in a pretty-boy look,’ he says. Now, though, the requests are different: ‘ 'Give me a big, strong, manlier chin',’ he says.” If you go to the plastic surgeon’s…in Beverly Hills…to become “manlier”. You are not manly. You never were manly. And you will never be manly. Try, I dunno…working out a bit? Take up an active hobby? Something outdoorsy? Maybe a martial art? I’d like to slap every one of these men, hard, in their resculpted faces until they scream like the little sissy-marys they are. - Coeloptera

08-17-2007, 03:11 PM	#2
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,299 Trader Rating: (0)	Quite the tribute to the fact that what you see is NOT ALWAYS what you get, eh? __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me

08-17-2007, 04:09 PM	#4
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 8,909 Trader Rating: (0)	Somehow I don't think you can really transplant or implant masculinity, no matter how much you pay. __________________ If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -Anatole France

08-17-2007, 04:11 PM	#5
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,178 Trader Rating: (0)	Hmmm I was always taught there's one heck of a difference in being masculine and being a MAN. Thoughts on that anyone? __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

08-17-2007, 05:07 PM	#6
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,020 Trader Rating: (0)	"Real chicks dig real men!" Nuff said. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

08-17-2007, 03:45 PM	#3
AK Hunter Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: S.W. Indiana Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (0)	They need the POPEYE outlook on fashon. "I am what I am" You don't like it tough!

08-17-2007, 05:51 PM	#8
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (0)	I guess they didn't listen to thier fathers when told something was good for and that it would grow hair on your chest or build character. Had they done that, they wouldn't have to be paying for fake hairy chests or fake character. I don't have that issue, I've got both. __________________

08-17-2007, 05:54 PM	#9
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,178 Trader Rating: (0)	Have both what??? a fake hairy chest and a fake character? I find that hard to believe! __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

08-17-2007, 06:17 PM	#11
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,178 Trader Rating: (0)	LOL Well Alan all I can say is I really really like the female sex and there is nothing prettier on em to me than a sweet smile happy eyes and a well filled out pair of jeans! But then I guess I'm just too manly fer my own good ! __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

08-17-2007, 07:14 PM	#12
alan c. Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pasadena,Tejas - also known as Texas Posts: 3,757 Trader Rating: (0)	Been married for 23 years. I hope you didn't take that last comment wrong. I was just saying those guy-females are just plain wrong. __________________ God Bless. From Tejas -- formerly known as Texas.

08-17-2007, 08:01 PM	#13
Cyrille Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 1,737 Trader Rating: (0)	I havta go with ez on this "ain't nutthin like a dame."

08-17-2007, 08:05 PM	#14
Triggerjerk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 978 Trader Rating: (0)	To be honest, I really do not care about the personal lives and pop culture fads of others, as long as it does not hurt me. Now, I used to have an upstairs neighbor that smoked dope and drank at night until he fell unconscious. He always got up late and ran out the door on four hours of sleep. He took his barely functional self to an auto shop where he worked on peoples' brakes. That concerned me. If somebody wants a chest hair transplant, that does not concern me... __________________ We old dogs can learn new tricks. We just may not like performng them. TJ

08-18-2007, 04:52 AM	#16
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,020 Trader Rating: (0)	Hairy-chested Girliemen . . . EEEWWWW!! Dang, put me right off breakfast . . . __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

08-18-2007, 08:22 AM	#17
Dallas PUKHA DAWG Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia, just outside of Washington D.C. Posts: 3,591 Trader Rating: (0)	Hairy chested girliemen, LMAO, that is a great one. It about summons up the whole situation. The fellows getting the surgery seemed to have missed the whole point about being a man. __________________ Those who forget History are condemed to repeat it.

08-18-2007, 08:29 AM	#18
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,735 Trader Rating: (0)	Chest hair implants,I never heard of that one before,oh well.... __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

08-18-2007, 08:35 AM	#19
Brother Bob The Mayor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olive Branch, MS. Posts: 2,576 Trader Rating: (0)	Never had that problem. I've got hair growing in places that people ought not have hair! I just hate looking down and seeing a hair on my shirt, pulling it off, only to find it's attached! I'll be more than happy to donate hair to anyone that needs some! My wife made me shave my beard and moustache years ago. She said she was afraid someone would mistake me for a blue eyed, blond haired bear and shoot me! I believe we may have a long, hard winter. My coat is getting real thick and I feel sleepy all the time

08-18-2007, 07:03 PM	#20
Coeloptera Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,408 Trader Rating: (0)	Heh...the responses made me glad I started this thread. But yes, there is a difference between being "masculine" and being "a man". And it isn't fashion. Me? I wear my hair long, condition it, manicure my nails when I can (myself), and like nice clothes. My knuckles are almost always healing from bruises from my Krav Maga class, if a nail gets torn I file it back down and go on with my life, I've cut scar tissue out of my own shoulder when it was bothering me, and the dentist can do his worst, long as I get to keep my teeth in my head. You wanna be more masculine? It's not in how you look. It's in what you do and how you act. I come home from class with sore knuckles and I moisturize my hands because my skin's toughening up fine without nasty-looking callouses. I can shoot pretty well, am decent in a fight, but I watch cartoons and do my own clothing alterations. I've found, honestly, I'm about as manly as I want to be, and no one ever seems to take me for a sissy, despite the fact that I'm not hosing the floor down with testosterone. (Okay granted, I'm 6'3" and 210lbs). It's not that it somehow disturbs my life to see this sort of trend, but it makes me bemoan the falsity of our culture, where image trumps reality. I cannot imagine what it must be like to be the sort of person who sees this nonsense as a viable path to "masculinity" as opposed to some genuine self-improvement. I would think most men could find something traditionally masculine that they like. It's not all shooting and fighting, you know. Try rock-climbing, a nice sport (many non-contact sports can be considered very manly, like swimming - look at how the ladies like swimmers' builds), maybe learn about the history of warfare and tactics...something. I find, amusingly enough, that one particular activity makes me feel in proper touch with my masculinity, despite the fact that it's actually removing a sign of my maleness. I used to get terrible razor burn for years, nothing ever seemed to help, until I took up shaving with a straight-razor. Now there's a uniquely masculine activity. I've never had a smoother or more comfortable shave in my life. It's pretty fun to do, and women just seem to love watching you do it, and the results. I also like it because, while I'm pretty forward-looking, some traditional men's activities are just so damn cool. - Coeloptera