Childhood memories being destroyed by hollywood.

dannavyvet · 08-20-2007, 09:47 AM

Speed Racer is coming to live action next year and already I can see the word "bomb" all over it.

You know the movie will suck when Susan Surrandwrap's casted into it and reading the released story-line only makes it more painfull....

The story is laced with liberalism. Anti-American, Anti-business, Anti-human, overly Enviromentally raptured...

I hate baby boomers with a passion and Hollywood even more, I haven't gone to the movies since Saving Private Ryan nor do I have any interest in seeing any of the past ten years worth of flicks on DVD.

Why does modern hollywood see fit to infect every good story with its acidic laced politicalism? Why are we seeing these stupid slasher films over and over again? And why do these idiots have to attempt remakes of classic films like Halloween only to inject more slash violence and more political crap?

People should boycott these jerks and their trash films. Stop going to the theaters and buy only pre-1990 movies untill we can force a financial crash of tinsle town and bring the liberal socialist mantra it extolls to its knees. Then maybe we'll get some new fresh un-tainted tallent to make great films again.

CrazyIvan · 08-20-2007, 09:59 AM

Well, did you hear in the new Superman, that the saying "Truth, Justice and the American Way..." was changed to "Truth and Justice" ??? I guess there is no more "American Way."

Some movies are good, the ones that are just for entertainment, and the ones that point out the flaws in our government which are denegrating our society into this new world order.

Lord of War is pretty good.

Band of Brothers, was awesome.

But, yea, the majority of the movies are filled with left-wing and Bush propaganda.

It is funny, I saw the cartoons from Pakistan and the middle east, telling kids to be suicide bombers and muslim extremists. Well, if you look at some of the American programming and movies, they show just as much propaganda, but pushing different ideology.

Rave · 08-20-2007, 10:25 AM

Seems like most of the good ideas have been used over and over.
Still a few originals left,but for better or worse,we are destined to see more re-makes.

ezearln · 08-20-2007, 11:08 AM

Sad thing is with each and every "Remake" of some classic cartoon or short film it strikes me as "What has Hollyweird finally run out of writers with original thought?" The live (sic) action remake of "Underdog"? The Transformers? Now admittedly some of these were funny or cute remakes into "Live Action" Dudley Do-Right for one but I must agree I'm seeing waaaaay too much Tree hugging half truth rhetoric in too many of them.

just_a_car · 08-20-2007, 01:59 PM

Since we're talking good movies here, check out a movie that was overshadowed by the first Spiderman movie: Tears of the Sun starring Bruce Willis and the chick from the second Matrix movie that played Persephone (just looked it up, Monica Belluci).

Midas · 08-20-2007, 02:19 PM

It seems that there is no such thing as orginality in Hollywood anymore, everything seems like its a remake of some sort.

CrazyIvan · 08-20-2007, 02:21 PM

Just saw a movie on TV the other day starring Clint Eastwood. It was called "Heartbreak Ridge" and he played an aging Gunny Sgt. in the Marines who returned to a base to train the Marine outcasts "Team Recon" or something. It was enlightening. It was made in the mid 80's, but was a good movie.

ezearln · 08-20-2007, 02:44 PM

Yes it was CI saw that same one the other day myself. Darn good movie

Big Dog · 08-20-2007, 05:15 PM

Consider the source - most hollyweirders are heavily Left-Wing. I cringe when I see what Disney has done to our beloved old Fairytales. They were violent for a reason - to teach the kids a life lesson. Sugar-coating life just makes it hurt harder when Junior runs up against something he wasn't prepared for.
Imagine Disney doing a remake of David Copperfield set in a modern time?
I like movies for simple entertainment and escapism. I don't want to see somebody's life philosophy played out.
Saturday morning shows - cartoons and live actors - are utterly abominable. Still selling those cheapo plastic toys to the youngsters, and indoctrinating their little minds too . . . Last weekend, I went the whole of Saturday and Sunday without watching Telly, and only watching good classic movies from 'yesteryear'.

Coeloptera · 08-21-2007, 12:20 AM

Big Dog, I am 100% behind you on fairy tales. They were harsh to teach children real lessons that they needed in a not-so-friendly world.

A happy ending is fine, but when they dare to think somehow they're better than some of the original authors...

Disney's Little Mermaid makes me ill...change the whole ending. Somehow some Disney hack is a better writer than Hans Christian Anderson?!

Hollywood does put out some crap...and yeah, they let their politics in too much. And a lotta people consider me liberal, but man...there's a point where logic just goes bye-bye. Nothing wrong with being concerned about the environment, some of the greatest hunters and explorers were bigtime conservationists.

And I don't see a problem with movies that are critican of the US...so long as the criticism is warranted. Stuff like U-571, with American characters in place of the real British heroes that really stole the German Enigma machine doesn't help any. Stuff like Saving Private Ryan...what can I possibly add to such a great film?

Although...if Hollywood is out of ideas, they could do worse than hit the bookshelf. And I don't mean some of the fantasy garbage like Eragon. I recently caught Thank You For Smoking and it was one of the better films I'd seen in some time. Now that's a nice movie that doesn't let politics into it too deeply. Nick Naylor lets the people around him 9and the audience) make their own decision about his morality and the rightness or wrongness of his actions. Now I'm no smoker...hate the stuff, but I loved the scene when, at a Congressional hearing when asked if his son wanted to smoke when he turned 18 what he'd do his answer was "I'd buy him his first pack."

Gotta appreciate a character who walks the talk.

But Halloween *sigh*...how can you improve on a nearly perfect horror film? Is Rob Zombie gonna make any good movies yet? For such a big fan of the genre his output is pretty weak.

- Coeloptera

Fokker · 08-21-2007, 01:08 AM

Well Speed Racer is a Japanese anime, so I don't really see what anything American left, right, middle, or otherwise has to do with it in the first place. Secondly it was a really poorly and cheaply done anime.

Triggerjerk · 08-21-2007, 05:46 AM

[quote=dannavyvet;332761]
I hate baby boomers with a passion...

Ouch!! That really hurt!

dannavyvet · 08-21-2007, 08:09 AM

Sorry it hurt but the Boomers have done horrible damage to our country and their leadership so far (Clinton, Bush ) has been abysmal. I also dread my own generation (Obama ) who thus far has shown a complete incompetance when it comes to foreign policy.

The boomer generations abuses of the 1960's are coming back to haunt us with a vengence, we are reaping the hell the hippies hath sewn.

Saturday morning shows - cartoons and live actors - are utterly abominable.

They started to get that way in the 1980's after a woman named Peggy Charron and her Action for Children's Television stripped the rights of creative art from the animators. She caused Chuck Jones to end the Bugs Bunny, Road Runner Show and out of that came the shameful use of cartoons to sell products like Nintendo or political garbage like Captain Penis, I mean, Planet.

As for Speed Racer being a bad Anime, of course any adult now would say such a thing. You didn't care when you were a kid did you?

Fokker · 08-21-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dannavyvet

As for Speed Racer being a bad Anime, of course any adult now would say such a thing. You didn't care when you were a kid did you?

Actually I couldn't stand it as a kid either.

lefty o · 08-21-2007, 10:16 AM

agreed, didnt like it when i was a kid either.

ArkansasHunter · 08-21-2007, 11:01 AM

Yall don't get mad at me for saying this... But do any of you think Satan influences what we see at the movies and on televishion ? I do. Hollywood and Televishion has been the main source for the moral dacay in America...A.H

CrazyIvan · 08-21-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

Yall don't get mad at me for saying this... But do any of you think Satan influences what we see at the movies and on televishion ? I do. Hollywood and Televishion has been the main source for the moral dacay in America...A.H

MONEY & OVER-CAPITALIZATION

dannavyvet · 08-21-2007, 11:48 AM

Vote for the most stupid cartoon ever made...G.I. Joe.

How can you fire off tons of ordinance and kill no one? There should be a new name for this ode of visual stupidity....

The A-Team Co-efficient: The amount of surrounding destruction shalt equal the tonnage of ordinance + the debris created to replace the amount of human flesh not destroyed during firing.

SilentSoul · 08-21-2007, 03:05 PM

I'll give gi joe this, at the end of every show they gave a good informative lesson to the kids, how to get out in case of a fire, make a plan with your family about it. What to look for in child predators and what to do. Cartoons today don't do that, but if you want to live in a pineapple under the sea.....knowing is half the battle

cubbieman · 08-21-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyIvan

MONEY & OVER-CAPITALIZATION

there's no such thing as over capitalization, in a capitalist economy you get what you earn and earn what you get, and anyone who says movies cause moral decay is getting it backwards, people watch what entertains them, so for there movies to be popular the "moral decay" already has to have happened

08-20-2007, 09:47 AM	#1
dannavyvet Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (0)	Childhood memories being destroyed by hollywood. Speed Racer is coming to live action next year and already I can see the word "bomb" all over it. You know the movie will suck when Susan Surrandwrap's casted into it and reading the released story-line only makes it more painfull.... The story is laced with liberalism. Anti-American, Anti-business, Anti-human, overly Enviromentally raptured... I hate baby boomers with a passion and Hollywood even more, I haven't gone to the movies since Saving Private Ryan nor do I have any interest in seeing any of the past ten years worth of flicks on DVD. Why does modern hollywood see fit to infect every good story with its acidic laced politicalism? Why are we seeing these stupid slasher films over and over again? And why do these idiots have to attempt remakes of classic films like Halloween only to inject more slash violence and more political crap? People should boycott these jerks and their trash films. Stop going to the theaters and buy only pre-1990 movies untill we can force a financial crash of tinsle town and bring the liberal socialist mantra it extolls to its knees. Then maybe we'll get some new fresh un-tainted tallent to make great films again.

08-20-2007, 09:59 AM	#2
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,299 Trader Rating: (0)	Well, did you hear in the new Superman, that the saying "Truth, Justice and the American Way..." was changed to "Truth and Justice" ??? I guess there is no more "American Way." Some movies are good, the ones that are just for entertainment, and the ones that point out the flaws in our government which are denegrating our society into this new world order. Lord of War is pretty good. Band of Brothers, was awesome. But, yea, the majority of the movies are filled with left-wing and Bush propaganda. It is funny, I saw the cartoons from Pakistan and the middle east, telling kids to be suicide bombers and muslim extremists. Well, if you look at some of the American programming and movies, they show just as much propaganda, but pushing different ideology. __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me

08-20-2007, 10:25 AM	#3
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,744 Trader Rating: (0)	Seems like most of the good ideas have been used over and over. Still a few originals left,but for better or worse,we are destined to see more re-makes. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

08-20-2007, 11:08 AM	#4
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,178 Trader Rating: (0)	Sad thing is with each and every "Remake" of some classic cartoon or short film it strikes me as "What has Hollyweird finally run out of writers with original thought?" The live (sic) action remake of "Underdog"? The Transformers? Now admittedly some of these were funny or cute remakes into "Live Action" Dudley Do-Right for one but I must agree I'm seeing waaaaay too much Tree hugging half truth rhetoric in too many of them. __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

08-20-2007, 01:59 PM	#5
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,422 Trader Rating: (0)	Since we're talking good movies here, check out a movie that was overshadowed by the first Spiderman movie: Tears of the Sun starring Bruce Willis and the chick from the second Matrix movie that played Persephone (just looked it up, Monica Belluci). __________________

08-20-2007, 02:19 PM	#6
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,709 Trader Rating: (0)	It seems that there is no such thing as orginality in Hollywood anymore, everything seems like its a remake of some sort. __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

08-20-2007, 02:21 PM	#7
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,299 Trader Rating: (0)	Just saw a movie on TV the other day starring Clint Eastwood. It was called "Heartbreak Ridge" and he played an aging Gunny Sgt. in the Marines who returned to a base to train the Marine outcasts "Team Recon" or something. It was enlightening. It was made in the mid 80's, but was a good movie. __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me

08-20-2007, 02:44 PM	#8
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,178 Trader Rating: (0)	Yes it was CI saw that same one the other day myself. Darn good movie __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

08-20-2007, 05:15 PM	#9
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,071 Trader Rating: (0)	Consider the source - most hollyweirders are heavily Left-Wing. I cringe when I see what Disney has done to our beloved old Fairytales. They were violent for a reason - to teach the kids a life lesson. Sugar-coating life just makes it hurt harder when Junior runs up against something he wasn't prepared for. Imagine Disney doing a remake of David Copperfield set in a modern time? I like movies for simple entertainment and escapism. I don't want to see somebody's life philosophy played out. Saturday morning shows - cartoons and live actors - are utterly abominable. Still selling those cheapo plastic toys to the youngsters, and indoctrinating their little minds too . . . Last weekend, I went the whole of Saturday and Sunday without watching Telly, and only watching good classic movies from 'yesteryear'. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

08-21-2007, 12:20 AM	#10
Coeloptera Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,562 Trader Rating: (0)	Big Dog, I am 100% behind you on fairy tales. They were harsh to teach children real lessons that they needed in a not-so-friendly world. A happy ending is fine, but when they dare to think somehow they're better than some of the original authors... Disney's Little Mermaid makes me ill...change the whole ending. Somehow some Disney hack is a better writer than Hans Christian Anderson?! Hollywood does put out some crap...and yeah, they let their politics in too much. And a lotta people consider me liberal, but man...there's a point where logic just goes bye-bye. Nothing wrong with being concerned about the environment, some of the greatest hunters and explorers were bigtime conservationists. And I don't see a problem with movies that are critican of the US...so long as the criticism is warranted. Stuff like U-571, with American characters in place of the real British heroes that really stole the German Enigma machine doesn't help any. Stuff like Saving Private Ryan...what can I possibly add to such a great film? Although...if Hollywood is out of ideas, they could do worse than hit the bookshelf. And I don't mean some of the fantasy garbage like Eragon. I recently caught Thank You For Smoking and it was one of the better films I'd seen in some time. Now that's a nice movie that doesn't let politics into it too deeply. Nick Naylor lets the people around him 9and the audience) make their own decision about his morality and the rightness or wrongness of his actions. Now I'm no smoker...hate the stuff, but I loved the scene when, at a Congressional hearing when asked if his son wanted to smoke when he turned 18 what he'd do his answer was "I'd buy him his first pack." Gotta appreciate a character who walks the talk. But Halloween sigh...how can you improve on a nearly perfect horror film? Is Rob Zombie gonna make any good movies yet? For such a big fan of the genre his output is pretty weak. - Coeloptera

08-21-2007, 01:08 AM	#11
Fokker Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 91 Trader Rating: (0)	Well Speed Racer is a Japanese anime, so I don't really see what anything American left, right, middle, or otherwise has to do with it in the first place. Secondly it was a really poorly and cheaply done anime.

08-21-2007, 05:46 AM	#12
Triggerjerk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 978 Trader Rating: (0)	[quote=dannavyvet;332761] I hate baby boomers with a passion... Ouch!! That really hurt! __________________ We old dogs can learn new tricks. We just may not like performng them. TJ

08-21-2007, 08:09 AM	#13
dannavyvet Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (0)	Sorry it hurt but the Boomers have done horrible damage to our country and their leadership so far (Clinton, Bush ) has been abysmal. I also dread my own generation (Obama ) who thus far has shown a complete incompetance when it comes to foreign policy. The boomer generations abuses of the 1960's are coming back to haunt us with a vengence, we are reaping the hell the hippies hath sewn. *Saturday morning shows - cartoons and live actors - are utterly abominable.* They started to get that way in the 1980's after a woman named Peggy Charron and her Action for Children's Television stripped the rights of creative art from the animators. She caused Chuck Jones to end the Bugs Bunny, Road Runner Show and out of that came the shameful use of cartoons to sell products like Nintendo or political garbage like Captain Penis, I mean, Planet. As for Speed Racer being a bad Anime, of course any adult now would say such a thing. You didn't care when you were a kid did you? Last edited by dannavyvet; 08-21-2007 at 08:13 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

08-21-2007, 10:16 AM	#15
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,695 Trader Rating: (0)	agreed, didnt like it when i was a kid either.

08-21-2007, 11:01 AM	#16
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,531 Trader Rating: (0)	Yall don't get mad at me for saying this... But do any of you think Satan influences what we see at the movies and on televishion ? I do. Hollywood and Televishion has been the main source for the moral dacay in America...A.H

08-21-2007, 11:48 AM	#18
dannavyvet Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (0)	Vote for the most stupid cartoon ever made...G.I. Joe. How can you fire off tons of ordinance and kill no one? There should be a new name for this ode of visual stupidity.... The A-Team Co-efficient: The amount of surrounding destruction shalt equal the tonnage of ordinance + the debris created to replace the amount of human flesh not destroyed during firing.

08-21-2007, 03:05 PM	#19
SilentSoul Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 603 Trader Rating: (0)	I'll give gi joe this, at the end of every show they gave a good informative lesson to the kids, how to get out in case of a fire, make a plan with your family about it. What to look for in child predators and what to do. Cartoons today don't do that, but if you want to live in a pineapple under the sea.....knowing is half the battle