What do you do if you find a firearm? - Page 3

troy2000 · 08-21-2007, 10:43 PM

I'd say the answer to this one depends partly on where you live. I have friends and family in rural Arizona, and they'd see a free gun as manna from Heaven. The odds of getting busted with it are about zip to begin with, and the local LEO's know them and would probably believe them anyway. And if they ever had to use it they'd just dump it, and thank their lucky stars it wasn't connected to them.

On the other hand, I live in the PRK and there's no way I'm risking losing all my firearms and my rights. I wouldn't even pick that puppy up. I'd call the cops on my cell phone, and stand beside it until a uniform had it in his possession. Then I'd go home, and cry over a beer or two about having given up a shiny new toy.

just_a_car · 08-21-2007, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deersniper

If you know someone, you can run a search on it.The manufacturer? If it's clean well... finders keepers. I bet Feinstein did it. It was probably left there for someone else to pick up or a hit man threw it away so some fool would come along and get the bad rap, the guy that found it should use caution.

That can clear the S/N for theft, but unless you fire it and check the ballistics on the bullet against a national database, there's still a chance it was used in a crime.

toolman · 08-22-2007, 01:39 AM

I'd pick it up with rubber gloves and sell it to ole Juan up on the north side, for enough $$$ to buy a newsed K-31, a case of 7.5x55 ammo, and a six-pack of cheap beer. Then I'd call my cousin Joe Bob and tell him that ole Juan done stole his pistol! Afterwards, I'd drink beer and clean cosmoline off of my new K-31 while watching Joe Bob and Juan take potshots at each other.

This plan only works if your cousin is missing a similar gun, but if he is, it's beautiful!

Rave · 08-22-2007, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeLee

I know that that's why I posted my responce.Just let the anti/gunners find Preds post,and you give them more ammunition to shoot at us.Our postings are allover WEB land.

I guess we should all make PC posts then,why even start a thread if we are afraid to make a real post?
If I found it I would mumble,mumble.

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Originally Posted by billy

turn it in this second!
good grief!
you could end up in a world of caca!

You got that right!

Burke · 08-22-2007, 08:56 AM

Check local stories from up to 5 months ago where crimes/murders were committed w/ a 9mm and the weapon was not found.., do a simple search through the police of weapons reported stolen or missing (they have them) basic detective work ya know..

If your friend finds nothing of noteworthy report..get a new firing pin and be done with it..

depending on the state, a simple "I bought it from a elderly gentleman who said he needed the money" should suffice unless of course you live in Californiastan.

in AZ. YOU NEED NO SUCH PAPERWORK TO FACILITATE SUCH A TRANSFER...and it would be up to the Police to prove you wrong...and they have to have indisputable proof that your friend used it in any murder or ill fated happening that might accompany the firearm...the burden of proof is on their hands..

Just because he found it and didn't turn it in is not a crime...just do the research..

JoeLee · 08-22-2007, 08:57 AM

[quote=Rave;333481]I guess we should all make PC posts then,why even start a thread if we are afraid to make a real post?

I cant hold you by the hand Rave if you don't know why.

CrazyIvan · 08-22-2007, 09:03 AM

Well, I told him to take it back. If, in fact, it was clean, never used in a crime or whatever, he could be charged with Posession of stolen property. Not a good thing to have on a person's record. What he does from this point is up to him, I told him I don't want anything to do with it.

I just can't help but think it is one of some guys favorite piece in his collection. It almost has a mirror finish; it certainly wasn't collecting dust at the bottom of some storage box, that is for sure. I know how pissed and upset I would be if any of my guns were stolen, and how greatfull I would be if someone returned it.

Burke · 08-22-2007, 09:15 AM

If it wasn't locked up properly or secured, I do believe he has been taught a lesson that he should've learned when he bought the weapon.

My guns are protected by a large safe that is bolted to the floor and to the walls..if he can afford a gun of that quality he can afford the safe to protect it..

CrazyIvan · 08-22-2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Burke

If it wasn't locked up properly or secured, I do believe he has been taught a lesson that he should've learned when he bought the weapon.

My guns are protected by a large safe that is bolted to the floor and to the walls..if he can afford a gun of that quality he can afford the safe to protect it..

To say anyone 'deserves' to be the victim of a crime is wrong. While some people attract unecessary attention to themselves and sometimes ask for it...they don't deserve it.

DrBoomBoom · 08-22-2007, 09:47 AM

I don't see this as a 2A issue at all. I'd turn it in right away, not out of any fear, but so if there's a chance it's been used in a crime, turning it in quickly could help the police catch the scumbag.

Rufus Rhastus J · 08-22-2007, 10:03 AM

I'm going to agree with most folks here, turn it in...better to just not have any grief.

cubbieman · 08-22-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

On the other hand, I live in the PRK and there's no way I'm risking losing all my firearms and my rights. I wouldn't even pick that puppy up. I'd call the cops on my cell phone, and stand beside it until a uniform had it in his possession. Then I'd go home, and cry over a beer or two about having given up a shiny new toy.

I'd be afraid to stand by it, i'd go to my car and call then leave if i was going that route, whoever used it has probably already killed at least 1 person, what makes you think they won't make you #2? the last thing i would do is hang around

SPOCAHP ANAR · 08-22-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Burke

If it wasn't locked up properly or secured, I do believe he has been taught a lesson that he should've learned when he bought the weapon.
My guns are protected by a large safe that is bolted to the floor and to the walls..if he can afford a gun of that quality he can afford the safe to protect it..

Not a problem for me!!!! 100$ says I can take that safe.

cubbieman · 08-22-2007, 04:48 PM

yea, but you're not a common street thug, you're probably a welder or something

we got some at wal mart for $450 that will stop a common street thug, sportsmans has some for $2000 that are pretty heavy duty though

alan c. · 08-22-2007, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by george_l

First...if you turn it in, you're gonna lose it. Sorry but that's the way it is. Second...if you have a lawyer present you're gonna go from being suspicious to being a suspect in a crime. If it were me I'd go in and do something novel...TELL THE TRUTH...cops are usually pretty smart and have been lied to enough to know when someone is lying to them. Leave out the fact that you were thinking of keeping it, but other than that just tell the truth.
Third...to alan...I can't see the future so you might be right, but I have two things to say to you. In order to "outlaw" all guns you would have to have the cooperation of leo's whom the majority of are private gun owners/collectors. Do you really think that they are gonna turn in every gun they own but their service models. And also even if they do manage to outlaw them I'd rather contend with having illegal guns then having to deal with illegal guns that just happen to be involved in a violent crime.

This has nothing to do with cops. If our government leaders decided to outlaw firearms the LEOS would still have theirs to enforce the law. Illegal is illegal and I am not going to change my remark. If you new anything about past history gun control you would not have any problem with my remarks. A weapon less society would be similar to what the Jews had to deal with. Do you get my drift. You really don't have enough posts for me to get into this with you.
George are you a law enforcement officer? If you are that would explain the mindset.

Colt · 08-22-2007, 06:51 PM

This is a tough one but is you're willing to face the possibilty of jail time for a crime he didnt commit just for a new firearm in his collection? So i'd say think about that and whatever he decides!

JoeLee · 08-22-2007, 07:15 PM

A Gestapo mentality is on the way for the USA young people.Cant you see it coming?Fight it GD it now!!

alan c. · 08-22-2007, 07:20 PM

First off how would I risk going to jail if no one knew I had it??? Like I said when firearms become illegal and it will happen. What difference will it make. Man you guys are hardheaded. Guns will eventually be banned because--a defense less society is a society that can be controlled. George I didn't mean to pick on you personally but I'll stick to my guns so to speak.I understand your logic but nobody thinks that complete gun control will ever happen. My christian beliefs say other wise. I believe in the New World Order and a one person dictatorship over the entire world system and he will not tolerate any type of resistance. You guys probably think that I am a nut case, but have any of you read the Homeland Security in it's entirity

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Originally Posted by JoeLee

A Gestapo mentality is on the way for the USA young people.Cant you see it coming?Fight it GD it now!!

Hey JoeLee how come the body box or head box never gets full?

Rave · 08-22-2007, 09:38 PM

The answer seems simple,even to my simple mind.
Either leave it alone or take it to the laundry.

Neanderthal · 09-16-2007, 07:43 AM

Your friend needs to turn it in to the cops a.s.a.p. He will have piece of mind when he buys his own legally later. He does NOT want to get charged with a firearms violation sometime down the road. It could screw his life up big time. Remember, good jobs would be out of his reach when he got out of PRISON!

08-21-2007, 10:43 PM	#41
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,506 Images: 9	I'd say the answer to this one depends partly on where you live. I have friends and family in rural Arizona, and they'd see a free gun as manna from Heaven. The odds of getting busted with it are about zip to begin with, and the local LEO's know them and would probably believe them anyway. And if they ever had to use it they'd just dump it, and thank their lucky stars it wasn't connected to them. On the other hand, I live in the PRK and there's no way I'm risking losing all my firearms and my rights. I wouldn't even pick that puppy up. I'd call the cops on my cell phone, and stand beside it until a uniform had it in his possession. Then I'd go home, and cry over a beer or two about having given up a shiny new toy. __________________ I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said. WF Buckley, Jr

08-22-2007, 01:39 AM	#43
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,601 Blog Entries: 22	I'd pick it up with rubber gloves and sell it to ole Juan up on the north side, for enough $$$ to buy a newsed K-31, a case of 7.5x55 ammo, and a six-pack of cheap beer. Then I'd call my cousin Joe Bob and tell him that ole Juan done stole his pistol! Afterwards, I'd drink beer and clean cosmoline off of my new K-31 while watching Joe Bob and Juan take potshots at each other. This plan only works if your cousin is missing a similar gun, but if he is, it's beautiful! __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

08-22-2007, 08:56 AM	#45
Burke Ahh..Cordite. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gun City, Arizona Posts: 517 Images: 23	jb Check local stories from up to 5 months ago where crimes/murders were committed w/ a 9mm and the weapon was not found.., do a simple search through the police of weapons reported stolen or missing (they have them) basic detective work ya know.. If your friend finds nothing of noteworthy report..get a new firing pin and be done with it.. depending on the state, a simple "I bought it from a elderly gentleman who said he needed the money" should suffice unless of course you live in Californiastan. in AZ. YOU NEED NO SUCH PAPERWORK TO FACILITATE SUCH A TRANSFER...and it would be up to the Police to prove you wrong...and they have to have indisputable proof that your friend used it in any murder or ill fated happening that might accompany the firearm...the burden of proof is on their hands.. Just because he found it and didn't turn it in is not a crime...just do the research..

08-22-2007, 09:03 AM	#47
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,379	Well, I told him to take it back. If, in fact, it was clean, never used in a crime or whatever, he could be charged with Posession of stolen property. Not a good thing to have on a person's record. What he does from this point is up to him, I told him I don't want anything to do with it. I just can't help but think it is one of some guys favorite piece in his collection. It almost has a mirror finish; it certainly wasn't collecting dust at the bottom of some storage box, that is for sure. I know how pissed and upset I would be if any of my guns were stolen, and how greatfull I would be if someone returned it. __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me

08-22-2007, 10:03 AM	#51
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	I'm going to agree with most folks here, turn it in...better to just not have any grief. __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

08-22-2007, 08:57 AM	#46
JoeLee Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North New York State. Posts: 1,241	[quote=Rave;333481]I guess we should all make PC posts then,why even start a thread if we are afraid to make a real post? I cant hold you by the hand Rave if you don't know why.

08-22-2007, 09:15 AM	#48
Burke Ahh..Cordite. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gun City, Arizona Posts: 517 Images: 23	If it wasn't locked up properly or secured, I do believe he has been taught a lesson that he should've learned when he bought the weapon. My guns are protected by a large safe that is bolted to the floor and to the walls..if he can afford a gun of that quality he can afford the safe to protect it..

08-22-2007, 09:47 AM	#50
DrBoomBoom Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 93	I don't see this as a 2A issue at all. I'd turn it in right away, not out of any fear, but so if there's a chance it's been used in a crime, turning it in quickly could help the police catch the scumbag.

08-22-2007, 04:48 PM	#54
cubbieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,481	yea, but you're not a common street thug, you're probably a welder or something we got some at wal mart for $450 that will stop a common street thug, sportsmans has some for $2000 that are pretty heavy duty though

08-22-2007, 06:51 PM	#56
Colt Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 126	This is a tough one but is you're willing to face the possibilty of jail time for a crime he didnt commit just for a new firearm in his collection? So i'd say think about that and whatever he decides!

08-22-2007, 07:15 PM	#57
JoeLee Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North New York State. Posts: 1,241	A Gestapo mentality is on the way for the USA young people.Cant you see it coming?Fight it GD it now!!

08-22-2007, 09:38 PM	#59
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,894	The answer seems simple,even to my simple mind. Either leave it alone or take it to the laundry. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

09-16-2007, 07:43 AM	#60
Neanderthal Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SE North Dakota-middle of nowhere Posts: 27	Your friend needs to turn it in to the cops a.s.a.p. He will have piece of mind when he buys his own legally later. He does NOT want to get charged with a firearms violation sometime down the road. It could screw his life up big time. Remember, good jobs would be out of his reach when he got out of PRISON!