01-05-2008, 08:50 AM
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#21 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Kel-tec SU16. It's the best of both worlds from AK and AR. It uses an AR receiver and locking mechanism, but an AK's gas system so the chamber doesn't get funked up with carbon. It even accepts AR magazines. I picked mine up for $450 out the door, and it comes with a lifetime warranty.
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01-05-2008, 07:59 PM
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#23 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Minn.
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You said something about recoil, in the 1970's I was drafted into the Army, my Drill Sgt. at the ranges took an M-16 put it over his crotch and fired it several times, a very convincing demo.
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01-06-2008, 10:00 AM
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#24 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: May 2005
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M16, M16A2, M....., ect. What are the differences? I don't understand any of it and its frustrating.
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01-07-2008, 02:33 AM
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#25 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Washington State
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Originally Posted by marker227  I'm definitely going with a .22 first to learn the basics, but I'm sort of anxious to get a .223 rifle. They are so customizable and nice looking. There are too many to get though  .
I don't think I'm anywhere near knowledgeable to be able to tell the difference in ammo when I shoot.
I wish my Savage were gas operated...It kills your shoulder in .308, especially with the super sniper stock. | It sounds like you have the 10FP. The reason it kills your shoulder is because you are shooting the rifle incorrectly.
Let me explain.
I, too, have the 10FP. Here are the basics:
1. Position
Ensure that you are squarely behind the rifle.
2. Weapon mount and hold
Make sure that the stock of the rifle is FIRMLY pulled into the pocket of your shoulder. The hand grip should be firm, not too tight.
3. Cheek weld
Make sure that you have FIRM contact with your cheek and the stock.
4. Sling use.
Ahem.....what?
Again, I will elaborate.
The proper use of the leather 1903 sling is perhaps the single most beneficial thing to learn when shooting a rifle. When properly applied, the rifle literally welds itself to your shoulder; the result is that when fired, you will feel a slight thump and that's it! Learn the use of the 1903 sling, and use it on ALL your rifles. I guarantee you will be surprised!!!
I shoot high powered rifles routinely--as an example, for fun and giggles, I will put about 80 rounds of .300 Win Mag down range. The load I use is: 71.0 grains of IMR 4831, under a 175 grain Sierra MatchKing seated to an overall length of 3.510 inches, which puts the bullet's ogive within .001 of the lands in my rifle. I use new, or once fired cases for best accuracy.
This load gives me 2980 fps at the muzzle, and on my good days I have put five of these rounds into .400 or better at 100 yards, shooting 1 round every 2 minutes, and cooling for 15 minutes between groups.
Use the sling, friend. You'll be glad you did!
(By the way, you want recoil? Try out my .45-120 Sharps, loaded with 120 grains of 1F Goex, under a grease cookie and a 500 grain semi spitzer .460 bullet. That's a spicy meatball!!)
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01-15-2008, 07:36 AM
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#26 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I have an Ultimate Sniper Stock and the cheek pad is just like a hunk of solid plastic (or some material I don't know of) and the shoulder pad is a thick piece of rubber (really thick). It hurts on both spots. My 8mm WWII Mauser is better than that. My dad says the same thing.
Anyway....
Where is a good place to pick up an AR and how do I know what's legal?
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01-15-2008, 08:02 AM
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#27 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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From one left handed shooter to another. Most AR-15's have a bullet deflector just behind the ejection port that will prevent you from catching one in the face. If you are set on getting an AR-15 then I would suggest going to a local gun store and talking with them on what they carry and or can order for you. I have a Bushmaster Varmiter with the 20" barrel and the free floating hand gaurd. If you are looking for a carbine then go with one that has a 16" barrel. There are other options to go with as well. The Ruger Mini-14 is another option and I have heard that the Kel-tec was a pretty good carbine as well. The advantage that the AR-15 has over the others is the aftermarket parts.
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01-15-2008, 08:19 AM
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#28 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I honestly have no idea which model I want. I'm trying to listen to everyone and make a good decision, but it's hard when you're a new shooter.
Everyone keeps telling me the AR's are great rifles. So I figured, why not?
I guess I want the best gun for the buck, but I don't want to spend $1200+.
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01-15-2008, 08:22 AM
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#29 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mass
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I'd go with the AR 15 and get the Ciener .22 kit. Then you can shoot for cheap and still have a .223 battle rifle.
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01-15-2008, 08:33 AM
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#30 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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That sounds great. Now where do I buy an AR 15 and which model should I get?
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01-15-2008, 08:57 AM
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#31 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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01-15-2008, 09:34 PM
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#32 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Does that come in lefty?
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01-17-2008, 01:45 PM
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#33 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Anybody own a Stag? I like their firearms because they are true lefty's  .
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01-17-2008, 01:56 PM
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#34 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn
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you dont really need a LH specific AR, as they are , they are pretty LH friendly.
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06-20-2008, 10:58 AM
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#35 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: May 2005
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Sheesh, I haven't replied in a while .
Maybe someone could clarify this for me... Atlantic firearms - AR15 & AK47 rifles - Olympic arms at wholesale prices. Atlantic firearms - AR15 & AK47 rifles - Olympic arms at wholesale prices.
These are both AR15's obviously, but what about these... Atlantic firearms - AR15 & AK47 rifles - Olympic arms at wholesale prices. Atlantic firearms - AR15 & AK47 rifles - Olympic arms at wholesale prices.
They look VERY similar, but the model isn't called AR15.
What's the deal on that? The last link is an M4. I'm a little confused on all the names and the prices are very different. They all look the same to me...
Since I'm a new shooter I don't think difference in quality will make me notice anything. I'm pretty much oblivious to everything . So why not buy a $500 AR15 looking rifle and shoot every now and then with it? It'll at least get me some more experience with target practice.
Grr I also want Ambi Mag Catch so I can use it lefty. Hard to find a rifle in my price range with what I want.
The front sight on the barrel. Can that be removed? Do you need to remove it if you mount a scope/sight on rail the carry handle sits on?
I'm also debating on a 16" or a 20". Barrels can be unscrewed and switched out right? I think if my max distance for shooting is going to be like 25/50 yards I'll just start with a 16" with an optical sight and thats it.
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10-30-2008, 02:49 PM
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#36 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: May 2005
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Forget about the post above this one^
Hey all! How are you doing?
Well, I think I want to get back in this hobby!
I've been looking at this AR-15 called K16 from Olympic Arms. It's as low as $650 online (without FFL transfer).
What do you all think about it?
Here's where I am with shooting in general. I'm very new to this all. I shake when I shoot, I get excited, I'm not that accurate, and I don't know the first thing about different barrel twists, ect. I'm thinking and hoping that this stuff comes with time and practice. What I'm trying to say is...I wouldn't notice the difference between a high quality rifle and a plinker.
With that being said, do you think that the K16 is going to be more than fine for me if I just want to learn my fundamentals. IE: learning how to shoot accurately and calmly. I don't want to go above and beyond with my main firearm I wish to purchase.
I'll be completely honest with you all. I picked the AR-15 at first because it was a cool looking military rifle. Now after shooting my first Carbine in PA a few months back, I started to really like it and wonder if this was the rifle for me. I also picked it because I can use .22 LR ammo in it and save a fortune.
I have only one rifle now for the range. I sold my Savage .308 because the kick was too hard and it was just really hard to learn on it. I have that Savage MKII .22, but honestly, it's not all that fun shooting in an indoor range. It's sort of like a BB/Pellet gun.
I was thinking that if I got the AR, I could switch from 22 and .223 anytime when I wanted a change. That way I could learn how to shoot and not be stuck with either a high caliber or a very low caliber with no kick.
I'd love to hear what you all thought about this.
Thanks
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10-30-2008, 03:04 PM
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#38 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I don't have an AR yet. I'm trying to find out more about it .
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11-04-2008, 07:36 PM
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#39 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Anyone?
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11-20-2008, 12:21 PM
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#40 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I'm going to get the K16 from Olympic Arms. Can someone suggest a relatively cheap, but nice sight? I don't want a scope... I was thinking a red dot sight?
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