Hey,
Found these videos and information the 1st link is abc news the second is a college student questioning John Kerry about his ties with skull and bone society ect. the 3rd is after the young mans arrest! Please watch this is rediclous and an outrage to people who love their freedom!!!
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The guy was suppose to ask a question not make a two plus minute speech, including asking if Kerry was a memeber of a secret society. When the Police tried to move him away he resisted, he continued to resist and was tazed when he wouldn't put his hands behind his back so he could be cuffed. According to Fox News and CNN reports, witnesses stated once the camera were no longer rolling he calmed down immediately and suppossitly told the officers he didn't blame them. Some of the talking heads are now thinking that the kid did this whole thing as a set up, whether to hurt Kerry, the University or perhaps to get his 15 minutes of fame who knows.
Two of the officers have been suspended, I believed they were and probably will be sacrificed for political expediency.
If a Law enforcement Officer gives you a command you are suppose to obey it and sort it out later if you think it is wrong. This was not in my opinion a matter of civil disobedience to an immoral set of laws or some sort of unusual political situation/demonstration. The kid was responsible to move away from the microphone when instructed to do so by the Police. He didn't and should pay the price. Unfortunately politics will surely enter the case and he will probably never be charged or tried and the two suspended Officers will be be lucky to keep their jobs.
The screaming cry baby students just learned a valuable adult lesson, or at least they should, that being if you break the law you will pay the price. Real life is not all keg parties, casual sex and lofty ideas divorced from reality (yes, I am a University graduate).
As for the U.S. being a Police state, no we're not. All societies need laws in order for it to be able to function in a reasonable manner. If the law allowed anyone who wanted to to ignore the Police whenever they felt like it we would have chaos in the streets. It's not up to the individual to determine if the Police were correct in what they did, it is up to a duly constituted review board and if necessary the courts.
If the kid had just asked his question(s) without a two minute prefice everything in all likelihood would have gone smoothly. Bottom line the kid brought this on himself.
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Seems like this guy was asking for it, as a stunt.
But it's still a little scary that several cops couldn't handle one kid without breaking out the tazer.
I have to agree but he was a little over dramatic (especially liked the "you know I was here thier going to kill me part" come on really. I think he might be off his meds). Hey maybe he was trying to cause a scene to get his stament out here is a link to his web site look it over Home | the andrew meyer dot com look it over carefully. Imagine that he knows what really happened on 9-11. and there is already a buy stuff and interwviews link on the page. a case of reverse entrapment?
though not much for over acting cops think this kid found exactly what he was looking for 15 seconds of fame and a soap box
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Oh jeez, I was just on his website, this kid is an attention junkie, He's has posted Youtube videos of himself as well as a blog about the Press being no good. They need to throw the book at this guy.
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Is there any common sinse anymore ? The guy got out of hand with his many questions, though I'd liked to have heard Kerry answear all of them.
Sometimes folks we have to be professional or civil in our actions...A.H
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Last edited by ArkansasHunter; 09-20-2007 at 12:11 AM.
You mean to tell me that you people here that spout freedom and and act like your pro gun & peoples rights. Can say he got what he had coming. You people that think that way are a good example of being PHONY.
After reading this post I'm ashamed of belonging to a group of people that don't walk what they talk. The action by the Cops was way over the top. I don't care what this guy is. I hope he sues the crap out of them.
There was wrong-doing on both parts. The kid did it as an attention-getting stunt. The cops over-reacted - should have simply duck-walked him out of there with a well-placed billy-stick. I was taught to do that by an old-school cop, WITHOUT hurting the perp.
Tension was high, and it became a circus.
lifesgood I'm sorry you feel that way, but if his rights were violated then I hope he gets his day in court.
My post was based on common sinse, before he was taken down he took over with his questioning to the point of distrupting. He never shut up long enough to let Kerry answear one question.
Sometimes we have to show respect, responsibility along with character and dignaty and this young man didn't.
Now please understand I'm from the old school in regards to this guys actions, which I feel was out of line and disorderly.
If times have changed so much that this is the way it is now as my cuzzin JB would say...........
FUGGIT !!!...A.H
thanks you L.G, Dallas do you REALY you must alawys do what the police say even if there is no reasonable reason for their commands?!! What if the police would one day the police come to your house and tell you to give them your guns and you and your family to come with them to a relocation camp or something such as that?! I'm not shure any of us can realy answer that question till the guns are pointed at us but i hope if/when this happens i hope i will be prepared to do what needs to be done! I'm just saying i believe there WILL be a point in the future when we will have to deny or overthrow those in power above us just as our forefathers were forced to overthrow those in power of them. Remember the reasons they but the constituition in place!!
thanks for listening!
This crap of cops thinking they can come up to any one for any reason an putting there hands on people & people should let them is wrong. I would of seen it different if the crowd was booing and John Kerry was asking for assistance. But John Kerry even condemned the action. This guy posed no threat to anyone, Sure he resisted why shouldn't he? The PIG COPS where dragging him. They had NO right to take action without clear danger. And running your mouth is far from that. He wasn't swearing or offending John Kerry or the crowd. Boy the story would of been a 180 degrees if he was debating a gun issue. Boy the the people here that talk the talk but don't walk their talk would be UP IN ARMS. My wife is an ex Deputy Sheriff that work the street & Undercover and she saw it just as I did. Her comment was most University Police are one step up from "Rent A Cops." This was a clear cut example of a "POLICE STATE." Colt titled it correctly. Thanks Colt for exposing the people that don't "walk what they talk"
If anybody here agrees with my point you better be real careful what you post here. Because the Government isn't near a threat as some people here.
I'll be signing off this site. I don't want to belong to a forum of people that don't even try to "walk their talk" This is no place for people that believe in "FREEDOM AND THE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE." No wonder our CONSTITUTION is being tramped by our LEADERS in Washington DC.
lifesgood if you really feel that way and think that way then don't let the door hit you when you leave. No one here is like you are saying they are.
The punk in the video to me was what I said above, it has nothing to do with walk and talk.
Take care feller I'll miss your posts and i wish you the best Good By ! ...A.H
Would it be close to disorderly conduct ? They did ask him to stand down a couple of times and he wouldn't stop or shut up and then they hauled him out AFTER they asked him to stop or something...A.H
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Colt, maybe's? Could be's? Maybe sorta's? Oh please. I do not believe there will be a time anytime in the forseeable future that the U.S. will be a Police state and require armed insurrection from the populice.
Lifesgood you haven't been here long enough to know who walks what walk or talks what talk. I believe you
will find that the majority of regulars on this site are honest law abiding citizens. To bad you don't plan on sticking around long enough to find out.
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well i guess we have our differences in what we believe but only time will tell.....I didnt see any sorta's in what i wrote either yes there are som maybe's but there are alot of those in life and i believe this particular one is worth planning and preparing for...but like i said we believe what we believe and that will influnce our actions
Stop whining, the guy should have been beaten like Rodney King when he didn't have the decency to comply with a legal, lawful and reasonable request by law enforcement. No one goes to a public place making a scene, and doesn't expect to get escorted out. He knew what to expect before he got to the meeting.
