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Old 10-17-2007, 11:09 PM   #1
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Well, my vacation went well, I caught 3 15-16 inch Bass in Cartersville Georgia, and got to see my nephew back from Iraq. His time is up with them, and he came back in one piece. Then I went to Tampa to mountain bike and kayak. Caught two trout and they were great. Then it happened. I couldn't sleep that night due to shortness of breath. Thought it was asthma. Next day flying back, same symptoms. Went to the doctor and they put me in the hospital and did some tests and it was congestive heart failure! I would like to relay this info in the hopes that everyone on this forum gets a check up before stomping off in the woods, especially if you are having shortness of breath or tinnitus after mild activity. I'm only in my mid fifties, and out $42,000 because of this. Do you know how many hunting leases that would buy? Get those checkups!
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:22 PM   #2
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That sucks deersniper. Best of luck with your health. I'm only 28 and my heart is not very healthy. I need to make some changes so I can see my kids grown up.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:24 PM   #3
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Whoa, Deersniper, hope things are getting better for you. It's a shock to realize we're not bulletproof, isn't it?
I know from personal experience that it's hard to adjust to something like that but at least you're alive to catch that next big fish next time. Take care of yourself and thanks for the heads-up warning. Maybe you just saved some poor other member's life.

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Old 10-18-2007, 01:15 AM   #4
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Deersniper it sounds to me like you need some insurance .

On the brighter side though, glad you're alright. And I agree it never hurts to look after your own health too much.
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:12 AM   #5
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glad it all worked out for you. it is good to keep checked up.
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:44 AM   #6
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Wow! Had you ever noticed anything like that before?

Just so that everyone else knows: In addition to having shortness of breath from CHF like Deersniper, you can get shortness of breath from having deep vein thrombosis (DVT). You make clots in your leg veins that travel up to your lung and mess up your oxygen exchange. That can give you shortness of breath. You will notice that one of your legs is bigger than the other. You can get it from sitting too long (as in an overseas flight) without getting up and walking around. You can also get it from being bed ridden for a few days.
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:16 AM   #7
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Deersniper did you have by-pass surgery ? I'll and I hope others will say a prayer for you...A.H
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:17 AM   #8
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You got our prayers here, Deersniper. It's great that you caught it when you did. Needless to say, do what they tell you and live healthy.

Good info on DVT, TexasT, an old pilot buddy of mine had it and it grounded him for a while. He's got a fake hip, so he was sitting more than he used to, now when he comes over for a jaw session, he gets up and moves around a bit every so often.
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:09 AM   #9
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Best of luck to you DS.
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:32 AM   #10
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I'm glad to hear you are doing better and sad you're out 42 grand.
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:28 AM   #11
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For your replies. They did a heart cath, and my arteries were clean of blockages. The sonogram said my organs were good. The heart echo said my heart valves were good. The enzymes came back ok. My heart just isn't pumping hard enough. [30%] I might of had high blood pressure for a long time and it weakened the heart. But just like any muscle with exercise, and giving up the vices, it can get stronger. I went in with 168/117 and came out with 117/78. The pulse is still 110 though. They couldn't figure it out, so they wanted to install a defib unit under my skin to my heart [$57,000] I declined, citing this month's Consumer Reports article. Defib units are being recalled because of the leads breaking and the new replacements are having problems. So, I wanted a written guarantee, and they said no way. After this diagnosis, you can hardly get insurance, much less pass a job physical. Moral of the story, stay in shape!
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:38 AM   #12
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Really does suck DS. This is one of the reasons I started dropping lbs. and started swimming. I was on BP pills, with my BP being like 160/105 every time I went to the doctor. My pulse, even resting was around 100bpm. Last night, for the first time in a while, I took my BP(no pill for a few months now) and it was like 124/84 with my pulse being 83bpm, and the second time was 133/82, pulse was 79bpm. I've still got a ways to go, but it's nice knowing my BP is no longer at a dangerous level. I was afraid that if I didn't get my weight under control, I would have major heart problems by the time I was 35. Sorry DS, I truly am.
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:51 AM   #13
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all the best to you deersniper in recovering from your ordeal - I am glad u are still among us to share

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Old 10-18-2007, 12:35 PM   #14
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Deerslayer...Hey...that's too close for comfort! Glad you made it and are here to give us the "head's up."

With deer hunting season almost here in MO, and across the country, we need to be aware of our physical condition and act accordingly.

My dad died with congestive heart disorder. My take on it was that fluids were building up around his lungs because of some reason...leavlng him with shortness of breath, eventually causing his demise. Because of that, I've been as careful as possible to monitor my vitals and try to take care of my health. Even at that, aging takes it's toll and as much as I try to live healthy, certain things crop up which are added to the other list of health issues.

Anyway, thanks for relaying your situation to us. It may motivate some of us to take certain health precautions rather than ignoring the signals.
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:40 PM   #15
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Glad you're here to tell us about it, Deersniper, and to start working on the problem.

I lost a brother recently to congestive heart failure, and he was several years younger than I am. Of course, he'd also spent years mistreating his body more than I do mine, so I have that on my side. But I've slacked off on the gym recently and taken a job that's pretty sedentary, so your experience is a kick in the pants for me.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:25 PM   #16
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Old 11-04-2007, 03:18 PM   #17
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Thumbs up update

Feeling much better, went to a wedding last night, had a small cup of red wine, and slow danced with my wife. I've found a new diet that is working out great, and this morning my B/P was 117 /72 pulse 60. A great heart tonic is 2 tsp of molasses in pure tomato juice at 12 noon. It has really helped me recover. Been walking the parks here fishing this week for exercise. A friend killed an eight point whitetail yesterday and is going to hitch me up with some venison. That will help immensely. So things are looking up. I go to the doctor the 8th, and will try some bike rides after that. Beets, garlic, watercress and pineapple at dinner also helps.
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:13 PM   #18
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Hey D.S. sorry to hear about this. At least it got caught early. My Dad died from CHF as well I believe he knew but was ate up with rumatoid arthritis and liver cancer. So in my mind he was ready to be on his way. I eat pretty healthy my biggest problem is smoking, man what a bear to quit. But I need to, I still have 5 kids to get thru school. Glad your doing better keep an eye on it ahead you go.
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:35 PM   #19
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Man, I am glad they got it before you had any related damage from a stroke or something!! I am glad to hear you are doing better, but I really hate to hear about your medical bills. I sometimes take for granted the good medical insurance I have! I never really stop to think about how much it would cost otherwise.

Maybe we should set a a DH get well fund! Everyone here pitch in a few dollars. Seems like there are enough members here to help you out. I don't know how to get anything like that started though. Maybe one of the more gifted members here can pursue the idea?
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:53 PM   #20
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Sounds like your on the road to recovery DS.
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