Old 10-26-2007, 07:37 PM   #1
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Any recomendations on what kinda sight to put on my AK my ak has a side mount and a folding out cheek coushion and i wana make use of it even if its just one of thoes red dot scopes are thoes any good for hunting?
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:50 PM   #2
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so you got your ak?
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Old 10-26-2007, 10:02 PM   #3
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I've found that with the amount off torque that the AK frame goes through during the course of firing makes it really hard to keep a scope sighted in.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:00 PM   #4
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so you got your ak?

When i made my other post i already had my ak ive had it almost a full week befor i posted the other.

i have a red/green dot quick sight no magnifacation but i think should work well enough when i go to the range ill try it out

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Old 10-28-2007, 09:14 PM   #5
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What are you planning on hunting?Red dots arent much chop.Have tried them on a few rifles but always prefered a scope or open sights.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:53 AM   #6
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Go with the scout concept.

Get a mount that replaces the forward wood that covers the gas tube. Unlike the dustcover mounts and even some of the side mounts, these can be made rock solid.

Mount an IER scope on the thing--it's a short pistol-type scope that comes into focus when you hold the pistol in a two handed hold at arms length.

I have had a 4x Tasco mounted on mine--it did wonders for holding a good tight group out to 100 yards. I have since replaced it with a Tasco Pro-Point with a 5 moa dot--it is the wife's quick response rifle. Kept handy, and loaded with Wolf JHP, it makes a dandy bump-in-the-night gun.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:04 PM   #7
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Go with the scout concept.

Get a mount that replaces the forward wood that covers the gas tube. Unlike the dustcover mounts and even some of the side mounts, these can be made rock solid.

Mount an IER scope on the thing--it's a short pistol-type scope that comes into focus when you hold the pistol in a two handed hold at arms length.

I have had a 4x Tasco mounted on mine--it did wonders for holding a good tight group out to 100 yards. I have since replaced it with a Tasco Pro-Point with a 5 moa dot--it is the wife's quick response rifle. Kept handy, and loaded with Wolf JHP, it makes a dandy bump-in-the-night gun.
can i get some pictures of what u talking about bro?
im afraidf if i get that im not entirely shure how it works , that ill have to replace the underbarrel grip with a difrent one.

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Old 10-31-2007, 02:04 PM   #8
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CW not to cross forums, but if you have a Saiga .223 in an AK style, then you might be fine using the side mounts. But as we discussed in your other forum, you aren't entirely sure of what you have.
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:33 PM   #9
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Don't mount anything on your AK.

1. The folding stock isn't going to give your the most consistent form every time, and thus your eye might not be in the same spot from the scope every time you raise the rifle.

2. The AK is crude. I mean, CRUDE. There are videos out there that show it firing in slow motion. The gun looks like it is about to be ripped apart. Imagine what this does to a scope that has been zeroed?

3. Unless you want to spend $200+ on a red dot, don't use it for deer hunting, especially on an AK. Cheap red dots offer marginal accuracy at best. Add that to an AK and you're asking to shoot the deer in the gut.

4. Don't use an AK...oh, wait...we've covered that already
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:48 PM   #10
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Don't mount anything on your AK.
1. The folding stock isn't going to give your the most consistent form every time, and thus your eye might not be in the same spot from the scope every time you raise the rifle.
2. The AK is crude. I mean, CRUDE. There are videos out there that show it firing in slow motion. The gun looks like it is about to be ripped apart. Imagine what this does to a scope that has been zeroed?
3. Unless you want to spend $200+ on a red dot, don't use it for deer hunting, especially on an AK. Cheap red dots offer marginal accuracy at best. Add that to an AK and you're asking to shoot the deer in the gut.
4. Don't use an AK...oh, wait...we've covered that already

I don’t have a folding stock on my ask and I already have a decent red dot scope that changes the size of the dot and color when u turn the knob on top goes from a pinprick to about the size of the letter O I just need a good idea on the rail system I should buy.

ive read that the dust cover mount sucks and I believe it because i seen how much it moves and im not sure about the side mount i would imagine id be sufficient the .223 doesn’t have that much of a kick and idk what the other guy was talking about with the gas tube cover rail system ive never seen one of those.

I think a red dot is better that the iron sights on it because when ur aiming when its not fully light out its hard to see the black irons they kind of fade in with the background if u know what i mean and the red green kind of eliminates that.

and like u said i don’t have a 47 i have a variant a more modern one that fires a much more accurate round from what i have read people have taken deer and coyote from over 200 with a .223.

the AK is crude and effective why fix something that isn’t broke?

i have a leapers red dot scope its really cheep but ive had it on a shotgun and its worked fine... and that’s about the range i hunt at shotgun range
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:55 PM   #11
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Heh...you told me

Gah, I can't let it go...here goes...

Sorry about the folding stock comment, I saw "Folding" out cheek cushion..what ever that is.

Ok, so you already have a red dot. Congrats on ruining your rifle further. Seriously, you already have all of these parts, and are going to use them anyway, so why ask if they are good?

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idk what the other guy was talking about with the gas tube cover rail system ive never seen one of those
Gas tube covers with mountable rails are available on AK's. Since you don't have one, and fail to post a picture of what you have, nobody is going to be able to give you advice on a mount. Post a pic or move on.

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I think a red dot is better that the iron sights on it because when ur aiming when its not fully light out its hard to see the black irons they kind of fade in with the background if u know what i mean and the red green kind of eliminates that.
Right...sadly, if you can't see the target on your iron sights, you probably shouldn't take the shot. Like I said in the other thread, hunting is not war. Red Dot's were designed for war and law enforcement use, not hunting.

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and like u said i don’t have a 47 i have a variant a more modern one that fires a much more accurate round from what i have read people have taken deer and coyote from over 200 with a .223.
Deer have been shot at 600 yards with a 30-06. It doesn't mean that you should be taking those shots though. Let us know what kind of grouping you get at 200 yards with your red dot. I'm really interested to see how that 3 inch sight radius (is it even that?) on an AK type weapon performs.

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i have a leapers red dot scope its really cheep but ive had it on a shotgun and its worked fine... and that’s about the range i hunt at shotgun range
A cheap scope on a cheap AK variant shooting a small caliber bullet...sounds like a winning combination to me. By the way....why not just use a shotgun if you're within shotgun range?
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:28 AM   #12
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AK's and SKS's are pretty crude in their design. they aren't made for accuracy. They can, however, get respectable groups with a combination of the right ammo and shooter. I wouldn't say sub-moa at 100 yards, but with an sks or ak, i'd say 5" would be ideal.

As for scope mounts, it's really up to you. Most AK's can get a new upper reciever cover that doubles as a scope mount, but those aren't ideal. A Red Dot might actually be the best option. i've considered it for my sks, but it's not worth it. plus, i have the peep sights on it from techsights.

The ak-47 probably is one of the worst guns you can use for a deer rifle, theyt sure are fun to shoot though!
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