Hey Family I finaly went to the woods and shot my New Ruger HawkEye 308 boltaction.
1st. it was a chore sighting it in, I should of had it bore sighted before I shot it, but I didn't.
I started out shooting at 100 yards LOL But I wasn't even hitting the 3' X 5' cardboard I had the targets stapled too.
So I jumped in my truck and parked about 25 yards from the targets and the 1st, shot was at 7 oclock 4" from the Quarter size bulls eye.
After 4 or 5 adjustments I had the rifle 2'' high over the Top outside edge of the bulls eye.
I used the roof of my truck and a couple of blanket and sat on the side of the bed.
I stepped off 50 yards and moved my truck again.
After 2 tries I had the rifle shooting 2" high at 50 yards.
To make sure every thing went right I let the barrel cool awhile then shot somemore.
I give you my word this gun shot 3 shot groups that over lapped each other consistantly with the Remington 150 grain pointed Core-Lok ammo.
Now it was time to change to what I thought would be the super dupper ammo, my $35.95 box of Winchester Supreme 165 grain ballistic tip.
I stayed at 50 yards from the target and got an average of 4'' groups with this high dollar crap !!
After shooting 15 rounds and several adjustments I threw the ammo off to the side and finished off the box of Remington cheaper stuff which is very accurate in my gun.
I had a few problems with the winchester ammo not wanting to feed.
The Winchester cartridges were to long and the plastic point wanted to stick inside the magazine.
I could push down on the rim and the bullet would pop up then I could close the bolt with no problem.
It's a pretty gun and it handled nicely, the Burris scope was kinda odd though it said it was 1/4 clicks but it was more like (I sware) 1/16 clicks.
I can now let my mind rest because the gun is a keeper.
If you drew a circle around a 25 cent piece, the Remington ammo over lapped inside that circle and I was kinda pissed I didn't get good results with the Ballistic Supreme.
I'm headed to WalMart to buy another box of the Remington 150 grain and fortunitly they also have some Winchester similar to the the core lok thats not the supreme stuff, so I'll try it out tomarrow.
One last thing...The trigger was wonderful, matter of fact none of my other rifles have as nice a trigger as this rifle.
There was a couple times I was squeezing the trigger and BOOM LOL I wasn't expecting it to go off so quick !!! It's got an excellent trigger but it took some getting use too...A.H
Last edited by ArkansasHunter; 11-05-2007 at 06:40 PM.
Sounds good A.H.! I can't remember what cal. you got but, I've had quite a few guns that were extremely picky on ammo selection. You might want to try different bullet weights to see if they move the point of impact, also. My 24-47 groups almost any bullet weight into the same spot out to 100 yds, but most of my other guns impact very differently with different bullet weights.
Glad you got to try it.Adjustment on that scope is 1/4" at 100yds,that would be 1/8" at 50yds and 1/6" at 25yds,and 2" at 200yds.As to the 165 supremes,I would have thought they would stabilise as you have a 1in10"twist but they must be really long in the body.You should be able to stabilise up to 180gr flatbase softpoints.The supremes would be boattail ballistic tips which by pushing lead forward for the boattail and back to make the hollowpoint where the plastic tip is makes a longer body.I have shot a lot of 165gr hollowpoints in a .308 with the same twist and a lot of 175gr fbsp,s with precision accuracy.If you want 165,s or heavier stick with fbsp,s. which is what your Rem.150,s are.The only difference is the btbt,s have a little more at longer ranges.But the sp,s are a better drop em dead bullet. sam.
I'm sorry toolman the caliber is 308 and thanks a million samuel you have been great help and thank you for answearing my PM. I'll get back with you later on the reloading...A.H
Oh I didn't have any problems with the first 6 rounds of the Winchester ammo but I did afterwards when I went to push the bolt forward it pushed the win ammo straight ahead It didn't raise up to go up the ramp like it was suppose to.
The Remton ammo worked fine I'll add 308 to my post and I'll shoot at 100 yards tomarrow.
How high above the center of the bulls eye do I need to allow ????
Last edited by ArkansasHunter; 11-05-2007 at 06:41 PM.
I am writing this more for others as I answered you on the other whatever.You should be about 1to1.5" low at 25yds.That will put you about .5"to1" at 50yds and 1.5" at 100yds and right on at200yds.Now that I read rhe part about the bolt pushing the 165,s straight ahead i believe your follower in the mag doesnt like the heavier bullets.Or win.has a slight difference in the casing someplace.I thought you meant they were too long for the box. sam.
The reason for sighting a scope low at 25yds is the scope is about 1.5" above the bore so if you sight dead on at 25yds you will be about 2"-3" high at 50yds and 5"-6" high at 100yds and 4"-5" at 200yds. sam.
Last edited by samuel; 11-05-2007 at 07:32 PM.
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The Win, Supremes fit fine but when I pushed the bolt forward the bullet end did'nt rise or pop up to go up the ramp into the barrel they were pushed forward in the mag well.
The first 6 rounds did fine.
I wasn't loading but 3 rounds at a time...A.H
I`d heard the new Ruger trigger was a vast improvement over the old lawyer trigger they used to be issued with.
I sure hope your`s is the Blued / walnut version, its my view there isn`t much that is as beautiful in a classic bolt action hunting rifle way as the Ruger, blued - wood..
As Bill says: if you`re happy, I`m happy enjoy your new rifle.
LOL I bought the BLK SYN/ Mutted Stainless model, if you haven't seen one it looks good.It's everything I wanted in a new rifle.
The action I especialy like.
I'll probably buy one in 358 win...No I am going to buy one in 358 win next Sept.
I purchsed a hawkeye this fall in 257 Roberts. My plan was to rechamber in 257 Roberts A.I. When the smith dropped the go and no go gauges in the chamber they dropped all the way in. The first thought was that the barrel was mismarked but nothing that we thought of chambered. Evidently it was so poorly chambered to allow the larger gauges to drop in. The action was so rough that it felt like the bolt was passing over sandpaper. The triggger is improved but it is not a 'vast improvement' and is not adjustable. Bottom line? I wrote Ruger a letter and got no answer.
Thanks Jerry Mauser 12 must of got a lemmon but mine is nice or I would let everyone know about it.
I'm even delighted the gun likes core lokts.
I posted a thread about a Limb Saver product I put on the barrel Jerry and I read your reply, go back and look at what I replyed and it's true...LMAO
I ain't hav'in nutt'in but good times !!! A.H
mauser12 I want to hear more about your rifle and the end result. I care.
Have you shot it ? And how did it do ? With out me haveing to look which model did you buy Wood stock or Syn/Stainless.
I'll admit the action is'nt silky smooth yet due to the matted finish but It's not a problem either with mine.
For those that don't know the stainless is not shinny it's more of a gray color that want reflect, which I like and looks well with the black synthectic stock.
Mauser 12 what are you rechambering for ??? Thanks ...A.H
mauser12, if you are going to rechamber to ackley improved, your factory chamber is really not important. to change a rifle with a standard chamber to one with an AI chamber requires that the barrel be set back so that the new reamer can completely cut out the shoulder of the factory chamber. a gunsmith can handle you barrel with zero added work over a standard rechamber job.