[Coondog67]

I have killed no telling how many deer over the past 25 years with a 250. I cant remember the last one I had to track..99.9% is shot placement I try my best to make a neck shot. If I cant I usally dont take the shot...

[dct002]

I have a Ruger Varmit/Target rifle in 22-250 and I shoot deer all the time with it. I agree that yu need to be able to shot really accurate. I can shoot 1 inch groups out to 300 yards and I have never had a deer run off, probably because I shoot them all in the head or neck, and I dont care what caliber you shoot if you shoot them in the head or neck you wont waste meat and never have to track a deer. I prefer a 55 grain hoarnady psp that I handload. In Maryland it doesnt matter what caliber you use as long as it generates at least 1,200 foot pounds of energy.

[muleyskinner]

I shoot .220 Swift for Muleys, lots of notches of that rifle!
The biggest was also the longest shot, 410 yards.
One shot, dead buck, did not move, died in his tracks.
63 grain sierra game point.

[groovthang]

.22-250 works great for whitetail. Pick your shot well, place it in the heart/liver/lung area and you'll have a chest full of red jello. Place it in the neck and you'll have a deer in a heap where it was hit. Anywhere else and you'll be tracking forever, and may never find the animal. Remember that the .22-250 loses lots of energy the further out it goes, so make sure you're within a couple hundred yards for deer. For varmints it doesn't matter, but for deer it's critical.

A lot of guys love to run on about the big guns, almost like they're trying to compensate for something, but the fact is simple that if you place the shot right and do not try to exceed the capabilities of the weapon/round then you'll be successful. I hunt pigs with a savage .22 magnum. All day strong, all day long. Put your time in on the bench, be realistic about your skills and know your weapon. Anyone who says you can't hunt whitetail with a .22-250 simply does not know what they're talking about. And that my friend, is the bottom line.

[kansascoyote]

I definatly would not use either round for deer and I am a 22-250 freak .

[Kompressor]

Quote:       Originally Posted by billy

both of those rounds are too small. i dont care if others think it's fine or not. unless you are capable of surgical precision dont use them. i am a good shot and i wouldnt consider using those calibers for that purpose.

This is scary, Billy! Yet another subject we agree totally on! I bet it will start snowing in hell before the end of the month now...





Who the heck would go deer hunting with a .223 or less??! Stupid!

[sbowers5]

Well think what you will gentlemen but i just got throught skinning one that was shot through the lungs and it took about four steps and was DRT. It is and will continue to be capable of taking deer with the properly placed proper size bullet. Just my opinion.
Steve

[hightopoutfitte]

22-250, 60 grain Nosler Partition!!!

[samuel]

Quote:       Originally Posted by sbowers5

Well think what you will gentlemen but i just got throught skinning one that was shot through the lungs and it took about four steps and was DRT. It is and will continue to be capable of taking deer with the properly placed proper size bullet. Just my opinion. Steve

+1,if shot through the lungs,did it have massive blood clots between the hide and ribs?I have seen this happen several times if the shot was under 200yds. sam.

[sbowers5]

You are right again as usual sam, there were large blood clots between the the hide and ribs. I have as of yet to find any of your information wrong. You are the man.
Steve

[TikkaTakDriver]

Quote:       Originally Posted by samuel

A .30-06 is rated at 20lbs recoil and a 7MM mag is rated at 21.5lbs. Heavy bullets do not stabilise with a 1in14 twist which is atandard in a bolt action .22-250.55gr flat base soft point would be the most you could expect any accuracy out of. The .223 Ruger is 1in12 and will handle a 62gr flatbase bullet. sam.

Some, i'm not sure if all, Savage .22-250's have a 1 in 12 twist. Kind of off the topic.

[kansascoyote]

sorry tak driver but I call BS i shoot a lot of bullets heavier than 55 grain in my 22-250 that are dead on its all in the powder load and primer selection.

[samuel]

Quote:       Originally Posted by kansascoyote

sorry tak driver but I call BS i shoot a lot of bullets heavier than 55 grain in my 22-250 that are dead on its all in the powder load and primer selection.

Could you explain how powder load and primers can control stability?This is one I never heard before and would like to learn.I hope you can give references. sam.

[sbowers5]

+1 with sam it is the rifling twist that stabilizes the bullet NOT the powder or the primer or the case or anything else.
Steve

[Rambo]

I could kill any animal in North America with a .22-250. Doesn't mean I would try. It's all about proper bullet placement. If that's your only weapon, and it's a legal caliber, shoot away.

[samuel]

Quote:       Originally Posted by kansascoyote

yea thats what a lot of people think but if you do some research you will find that is part of the puzzle but not the only piece . what you make referance to is cintrifical stabalization . But in that you have to consider if you put 8 grains of a fast burning powder in one and 8 grains of slow burn powder in another there will be more pressure in the slowburner thus creating more pressure which creates differant muzzle pressure and that will effect the cintrifical stabalization. Same goes with primers if you use a small pistol primer in a 40 s&w the pressure will be less that if you use a small pistol magnum primer . If anyone thinks that pressure only effects the weapon my freinds you need to do your reasearch.

And you need to help the phisists and engineers rewrite all of the firearms books I have read and experiences I have had going by them. (More pressure in the slow burning powder???) sam.

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Kompressor

This is scary, Billy! Yet another subject we agree totally on! I bet it will start snowing in hell before the end of the month now... Who the heck would go deer hunting with a .223 or less??! Stupid!

this is scary.
im gettin creeped out!

[billy]

i love the 22-250 on prairie dogs!

[samuel]

I wish someone would post about all the deer they know of or have personally lost because they or others used a .22-250.Personally,out of 50+ cases of the HV .22,s being employed,I know of no case of a deer size animal getting away.I know of,probably in the hundreds,using 7mm,.308cal,.50cal muzzle loaders,two .45-70,s,and numerous shotguns of varying ga.The only deer I personally lost were shot with a .12ga.shotgun using 3"mag foster type slugs and a .54cal muzzle loader using 110gr of pyrodex and a 375gr Hornady sabot.Both were shot at under 30yds. Please post your experiences of losing a deer because you used a .22 centerfire of .222rem. or larger.I love to be proven wrong. sam.

[telkev]

So far, I believe I am 13 for 13 on shooting wild hogs with a 223. Ranging in weights from 50-325 lbs. None of which went over 40yds, but a lot of them were head shots. I don't use my 22-250 on them because the twist rate of my barrel doesn't like the bullets I prefer. I don't deer hunt with them, mainly because I have more than enough other calibers to choose from, but with the proper bullet design, I would not hesitate to use either the 223 or 22-250. Kansascoyote, I believe you typed your response incorrectly, grain for grain, faster burning powder produces more pressure. There are a lot of variables that affect pressure, but stabilization of a bullet is controlled by the twist rate of the barrel, bullet weight and design, and velocity. If this info is incorrect, then I have been doing it wrong for years.