12-19-2008, 03:28 PM
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#81 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oklahoma
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What about 25.06 or .243?
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12-19-2008, 07:52 PM
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#82 | | Firearm Aficionado
Join Date: May 2007 Location: Montana
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25.06 is a great deer round
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12-19-2008, 11:24 PM
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#83 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: TN
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Most kills on deer were with 55gr. JHP thru the chest heart and lung shot dead on contact that is all she wrote
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12-21-2008, 09:56 AM
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#84 | | Banned
Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Alberta
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To Sam
my first year hunting a long time ago i lost a buck i shot it at 75 yards open site with a john wayne 30-30 it was shot a week later by a friend as it limped to his feeder. 30-30 is a fine deer rifle for shots out to about 130 yards my poorly placed shot was due to only shooting 5 rounds EVER out of that gun as i was young and couldnt afford more bullets very poor excuse. i stress that new hunters need to practice shooting their hunting rifle, you cant shoot nice groups with a 22Lr at 50 yards and think you can shoot accurate with your hunting rifle at real game
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12-21-2008, 12:25 PM
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#85 | | Firearm Zealot
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Thank you for sharing your hunting experiences.I don't know exactly what your point is but many hunters take to the field with about the same amount of target practice and expect to get all kinds of game in NA.Sadly,most wind up with stories like yours.The lucky ones miss completely.A youth that learned like you did didnt miss out all togather,altho it is always sad to think we made an animal suffer unnecessarily. sam.
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12-27-2008, 12:56 AM
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#86 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Missouri KC area
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Love my Rem 22-250, but thought it too small for deer. Bought a cheap Mosin-Nagant and went hunting after 80-100 rounds of practice. I know this is a while after the original post, but if she likes hunting, this is a cheap(er) way to start. The 7.62x54r round has proven itself as a deer dropper and I do not see me buying an expensive rifle.
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12-27-2008, 10:49 AM
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#87 | | Firearm Aficionado
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I've killed deer with the 223, and the 22 Hornet. If you keep the range around 100 yards, and shoot the the chest broadside, you'll be fine. I used a 60 Nosler Solid base to kill a 140 lbs [dressed weight] 6 point buck and he didn't go more than 40 yards. The bullet went in the chest and broke the opposite shoulder. I found it under the skin when cutting him up. I've also killed numerous deer with the 22 Hornet. That 45 grain Hornady SP in the lungs really messes them up. Any centerfire cartridge is legal in NY, and I've never lost a deer shot with the Hornet. If that tiny cartridge can kill deer at 50-75 yards, why couldn't a 223 or 22-250? It's all about bullet placement. Use a big enough bullet, and place the shot correctly, and the deer will die in a hurry. Hell, Elephants have been killed with the 22 LR, but that's taking it to the extreme.
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12-27-2008, 10:57 AM
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#88 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by kansascoyote | sorry tak driver but I call BS i shoot a lot of bullets heavier than 55 grain in my 22-250 that are dead on its all in the powder load and primer selection. | As you can see from this target, the 22-250 will shoot heavy bullets. The powder does have an effect, because higher velocities can stabilize a bullet that my be marginal for the twist. I'd use this bullet on deer without question.
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12-27-2008, 08:44 PM
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#89 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by dmsbandit | As you can see from this target, the 22-250 will shoot heavy bullets. The powder does have an effect, because higher velocities can stabilize a bullet that my be marginal for the twist. I'd use this bullet on deer without question. | The Sierra 63 SMP,or semi pointed is a flatbase and has about the same body length as hpbt,s in 55gr so it could stabilise with a 1in14"twist.I would say it is marginal.You dont give your fps.I would estimate 3450+fps.in a 26" barrel. sam.
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12-28-2008, 04:13 PM
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#90 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by samuel | The Sierra 63 SMP,or semi pointed is a flatbase and has about the same body length as hpbt,s in 55gr so it could stabilise with a 1in14"twist.I would say it is marginal.You dont give your fps.I would estimate 3450+fps.in a 26" barrel. sam. | If the groups are that small, why would you say the twist is marginal? Sierra says that load and bullet will do 3500fps. I haven't run it thru a Chorny yet. Sierra states that the 63 grain bullet is designed to work in standard twist barrels and is most effective at near max or maximum loads in the 220 swift, and 22 Varminter [22-250]. The point is, that the 22-250 can shoot a heavier bullet fast enough to be an effective deer cartridge.
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12-28-2008, 10:59 PM
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#91 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by dmsbandit | If the groups are that small, why would you say the twist is marginal? Sierra says that load and bullet will do 3500fps. I haven't run it thru a Chorny yet. Sierra states that the 63 grain bullet is designed to work in standard twist barrels and is most effective at near max or maximum loads in the 220 swift, and 22 Varminter [22-250]. The point is, that the 22-250 can shoot a heavier bullet fast enough to be an effective deer cartridge. | Results will vary from gun to gun. I have a 22-250 now that just refuses to shoot anything heavier than 52grs. Up to a few months ago, I had an identical rifle that would shoot 60 gr noslers just as good as anything. For the most part, a 1-14 twist is only going to be good for bullets up to 55 gr. But every gun is different.
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12-29-2008, 10:25 AM
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#92 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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get at least a .243 win
i have a friend who shot a 6by8 whittail with a 22-250 and it ran off.
a 30-06, 308, 270 wolud be best
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01-03-2009, 08:46 PM
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#93 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by Rem 742 30-06 Anybody use this a deer round with any success? Type of bullets if it worked? My sister is going rifle hunting and we have a 22-250 and we don't want to buy another rifle or we have a ruger mini 14 in 223 so i guess question is what round would be better.  | If you reload or know any body who does try the 80 gr. hornady A-max it is pricy,and a competition bullet but it is also great for hunting.
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01-03-2009, 10:03 PM
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#94 | | Banned
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if its not a 1 in 14 twist i would shoot the 22-250 with 60 gr nosler partition
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01-04-2009, 06:49 AM
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#95 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by tripoli | If you reload or know any body who does try the 80 gr. hornady A-max it is pricy,and a competition bullet but it is also great for hunting. | You need a 1in7",1in8" twist.Wont work in 1in14" at all. sam.
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04-17-2009, 09:41 PM
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#96 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by lefty o | they will kill whitetail, but are not the best choice. since it is legal to use 22cal centerfires in wisconsin, the choice is yours to make. if you do choose to use it, ensure you use a bullet designed for big game, as most for the 22-250 are varmint bullets which are absolutely inadequate for the task. | I will kill any deer on the face of the earth with a lung shot from a 55 grn out of a 22-250. 22's are used buy more states and hunters than you know. I have personally killed a 145 lb dressed doe shot through both lungs and almost out the other side with a 22 long rifle at 160 yds no less.I dont advocate wounding game but through my 35 years of hunting experience i have learned that you don't need half the gun that most people thing you do.for example i think that a 30-06 is very grossly over gunned for eastern whitetails but something like a 243 with 85 grn bullet is an excellent round even at 400 yds.
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08-16-2009, 12:42 PM
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#97 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Manitoba
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| 22-250 for deer
I've used my 22-250 for years on deer, 55 gr hp, works good
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08-16-2009, 02:05 PM
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#98 | | Firearm Zealot
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The reason they don't reccomend .22cal for deer is they are very frangible and susceptible to "bullet failure" in larger than varmint game.If you have used the .22-250 for years and shot multiple deer you no doubt have had this happen.Not long ago a friend was hunting antelope with a .243win,plenty big enough at the range he was shooting.But he had a very frangible 80gr bullet that in his words "splattered all over the side of the antelope and never penetrated.Yes,a 55gr hp will stop a deer in its tracks in most cases.But what about those shots that it failed?And fail it will if it hits enough resistance. ,,,sam.
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08-16-2009, 02:21 PM
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#99 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Get out the extiguishers cause I'm sure the flames they will be a coming. I dont feel it is etheical to use anything smaller than a 6mm cart. on deer. Don't think there is anyone that (honestly now gang) shoots well enough to use a 22 cal on any deer sizes game. Vt has a min cal. I'm sure I'll hear that one of ya can shoot the wings off of a fly at 400 yds with a 218 zipper. IMHO
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08-16-2009, 02:58 PM
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#100 | | Firearm Zealot
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If there were no laws and that's the only rifle and rounds I had to survive, I would use it. However, most states have minimums and it's usually a .243 cal.. In Texas, you can use anything above a .22. Probably because their deer have such a small body compared to the northern States deer.
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