[Phil Lozano]

Well, I'm a couple months late commenting on this, but here goes.

I have a 7mm Mag. and a 280 Rem.. When it was time to go deer hunting I always grabbed the 280. A good cartridge. However, if you are shooting 400 yards, I would have a look at the 7mm Mags., or even the 300 mags.

Better long range performance that the 270 or the 280.

I took my 7 Mag. this year to Mexico for Deer and it performed very well, 1 shot done. Shot was right at 190 yards and I was quite please with my shot and the results.

Another good option would be the 270 Wby., or 7mm Wby., both very good long range cartridges.

Best,
Phil
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[.280Rem]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Phil Lozano

I have a 7mm Mag. and a 280 Rem.. When it was time to go deer hunting I always grabbed the 280. A good cartridge. However, if you are shooting 400 yards, I would have a look at the 7mm Mags., or even the 300 mags. Better long range performance that the 270 or the 280. _____________________ Professional Hunter ~ Tanzania Stay out of sight and down wind Phil Lozano Tanzania Trophy Expeditions - Dangerous Game Specialists

Yep, my .280 is my #1 gun. Can't argue with your other assertion, as factually it's correct. However, Id say you'd have to be talking ranges well over 400yds to notice the differences in a .280 and 7mmRM.

[ArkansasHunter]

I sure wish I would of remembered the 280 when I bought a new rifle.
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[Phil Lozano]

Quote:       Originally Posted by .280Rem

Yep, my .280 is my #1 gun. Can't argue with your other assertion, as factually it's correct. However, Id say you'd have to be talking ranges well over 400yds to notice the differences in a .280 and 7mmRM.

Personally, I would say 400 yards is s t r e a c h i n g it for a 280, not to mention any cartridge. However, the 280 cannot keep up with the 7 Mag. with bullets of the same weight. So, if you are going to attempt long shots, the 7 Mag. will do so with a flatter trajectory than the 280.

Consistent hits in a vital area cannot be considered the norm at these distances, too many variables.

There are very few places where I would take a 400 or 400 + yard shot. Too many factors to consider, e.g., wind speed/direction, elevation to target, distance, ballistics knowledge of your load etc., etc..

JMO

Best,
Phil
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Professional Hunter

[.280Rem]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Phil Lozano

Personally, I would say 400 yards is s t r e a c h i n g it for a 280, not to mention any cartridge. However, the 280 cannot keep up with the 7 Mag. with bullets of the same weight. So, if you are going to attempt long shots, the 7 Mag. will do so with a flatter trajectory than the 280. Consistent hits in a vital area cannot be considered the norm at these distances, too many variables. There are very few places where I would take a 400 or 400 + yard shot. Too many factors to consider, e.g., wind speed/direction, elevation to target, distance, ballistics knowledge of your load etc., etc.. JMO Best, Phil _________________________________ Stay out of sight and down wind Professional Hunter

Agree. Since a 7mmRM can run a 160, nearly as fast as a .280 can run a 140, it obviously has a ballistic advantage. I think what you said about shooting that far is true. I can't say that I can shoot well enough to notice the difference. I've taken 2 shots in my life over 400 yards. I hit one whitetail deer at 435 yards with a perfect double lung shot. Conditions were perfect. It was a .280 with a 140 Nosler Solid Base running just over 3000fps. I missed the other that I judged to be 475 yds with a 7mmRM. I wasn't familiar enough with my trajectory to make the shot. I assume I misjudged the hold over because I had the yardage very close. At the yardages I'm competent to shoot, the .280 is all I "need." I think that in the right hands 500-600 yards would be the limit for the .280 as it's going to be somewhere in that range that it will drop below 1000 ft lbs of energy and under 2000fps. Like I said though, that's well beyond my capabilities, at least with the equipment and optics I have.

[Phil Lozano]

Quote:       Originally Posted by .280Rem

Agree. Since a 7mmRM can run a 160, nearly as fast as a .280 can run a 140, it obviously has a ballistic advantage. I think what you said about shooting that far is true. I can't say that I can shoot well enough to notice the difference. I've taken 2 shots in my life over 400 yards. I hit one whitetail deer at 435 yards with a perfect double lung shot. Conditions were perfect. It was a .280 with a 140 Nosler Solid Base running just over 3000fps. I missed the other that I judged to be 475 yds with a 7mmRM. I wasn't familiar enough with my trajectory to make the shot. I assume I misjudged the hold over because I had the yardage very close. At the yardages I'm competent to shoot, the .280 is all I "need." I think that in the right hands 500-600 yards would be the limit for the .280 as it's going to be somewhere in that range that it will drop below 1000 ft lbs of energy and under 2000fps. Like I said though, that's well beyond my capabilities, at least with the equipment and optics I have.

[turner]

Quote:       Originally Posted by .280Rem

Agree. Since a 7mmRM can run a 160, nearly as fast as a .280 can run a 140, it obviously has a ballistic advantage. I think what you said about shooting that far is true. I can't say that I can shoot well enough to notice the difference. I've taken 2 shots in my life over 400 yards. I hit one whitetail deer at 435 yards with a perfect double lung shot. Conditions were perfect. It was a .280 with a 140 Nosler Solid Base running just over 3000fps. I missed the other that I judged to be 475 yds with a 7mmRM. I wasn't familiar enough with my trajectory to make the shot. I assume I misjudged the hold over because I had the yardage very close. At the yardages I'm competent to shoot, the .280 is all I "need." I think that in the right hands 500-600 yards would be the limit for the .280 as it's going to be somewhere in that range that it will drop below 1000 ft lbs of energy and under 2000fps. Like I said though, that's well beyond my capabilities, at least with the equipment and optics I have.

I'm curious as to your satisfaction with that 140gr solid base. I had used 140gr ballistic tips in my Ruger .280 with very good results but, saw a big sale on Fed Premium with that 140gr solid base and bought about 5 yrs worth...lol. They do seem to shoot fine in my Rem .280, but have not as yet shot a deer with them in either gun. Any comments would be appreciated.

[.280Rem]

Quote:       Originally Posted by turner

I'm curious as to your satisfaction with that 140gr solid base. I had used 140gr ballistic tips in my Ruger .280 with very good results but, saw a big sale on Fed Premium with that 140gr solid base and bought about 5 yrs worth...lol. They do seem to shoot fine in my Rem .280, but have not as yet shot a deer with them in either gun. Any comments would be appreciated.

Turner,

I shot a few deer with them in the 90s. I can't say how many. 20-30 maybe? Maybe more. I hand load. Always had solid results on deer. They don't make the 140 anymore, but I found a box I had never opened with 100 in it. I'm working on those and will take some deer with it next year.

This is why I'm now loading them again.

3 shots at 100yds.






The velocity was a tad high so I backed off a grain and got down to where I wanted, with similar accuracy results.

[turner]

Quote:       Originally Posted by .280Rem

Turner, I shot a few deer with them in the 90s. I can't say how many. 20-30 maybe? Maybe more. I hand load. Always had solid results on deer. They don't make the 140 anymore, but I found a box I had never opened with 100 in it. I'm working on those and will take some deer with it next year. This is why I'm now loading them again. 3 shots at 100yds. The velocity was a tad high so I backed off a grain and got down to where I wanted, with similar accuracy results.

I could be wrong, all those boxes I bought might be 150gr solid base. I had heard that they(the solid base Noslers) were very accurate in most .280s. Thanks a lot for the info.

[.280Rem]

I don't know when you bought them, and can't recall exactly when Nosler discontinued them. They brought back the 150, but not the 140 last year I think. The 150 shoots well for me too, but I've never taken game with them. I suspect it's a good cup and core bullet though.

[Rambo]

My uncle gave me his .280 and it performs really well. I would not have bought one as I have a .30-06 and that works just as well as far as hunting is concerned. For me, that is.

[oldgringo]

the 280 is a great gun. i handload 160 gr. speer grand clam.i a have shot 2 black bear and 1 elk.but i keep all shots under 250 yards.and i have 4 deer from west vir.