[irish murphy]

Gday fellas and lassies,I have been asked by a mate to load some bulk ammo for him.He has two glocks in 45acp and 9mm.I have only loaded for 44mag,357mag and 32s&w long pistol cartridges.What i am after is loading data and OAL for these glocks with winchester WST powder.Not sure if WST is ideal,but i have a couple kilos of it and want to use it up before its out of date.The projies im going to use are both lead for the different cals,plus the heavy end of the scale for both.230 gn for 45acp and 135gn for 9mm.If win WST isnt the best let me know,i also have some australian powders like ADI as30,ADI ap70 and ADI ap100.

[Nathan123]

From Nick Harvey's reloading manual:

.45 Auto (acp)
PISTOL: Colt Gvt Model
BARREL: 127mm
TWIST: 1:16
CASES: Super-X WLP primer
MAX CASE LENGTH: 22.80mm
TRIM TO LENGTH: 22.55mm

230gn LRN
Start MAX
POWDER GNS MV POWDER GNS MV

800-X 6.2 760 800-X 7.2 860
WSF 5.5 820 WSF 6.2 910
WIN 231 4.5 765 WIN 231 5.1 870
WST 4.0 750 WST 4.5 805
700-X 4.3 750 700-X 5.6 900
UNIQUE 5.1 750 UNIQUE 6.3 900

He doesnt list any ADI powders for this weight. But he does for the lighter weights.

For 9mm he only lists 125gn Lead and 147gn Lead, if you want these i will be more than happy to copy them out for you.

Hope this info helps mate.

*edit* - for some stupid bloody reason all my gaps in between the load data seem to have dissapeared, hope you can still make sense of it.

[samuel]

I dont know about over there but here we can get all kinds of reloading mags from the powder,bullet and reloading equipment co,s free.I would be skeptical about loads from people on a forum because of typo errors unless I had manuels to verify them so they are close. sam.

[rfc357]

Powder does not go "out of date."

[irish murphy]

It does,have seen it and its not pretty

So the only load data anyone is willing to give is from my aussie mate,thats great.Thanks nathan.Your info has helped me.

[Nathan123]

Quote:       Originally Posted by samuel

I would be skeptical about loads from people on a forum because of typo errors unless I had manuels to verify them so they are close. sam.

Does that include the load data that you post on a regular basis? Or does it just apply when it is from other people?

Quote:       Originally Posted by irish murphy

It does,have seen it and its not pretty So the only load data anyone is willing to give is from my aussie mate,thats great.Thanks nathan.Your info has helped me.

No worries mate any time.

[irish murphy]

The 9mm info would be much apreciated too nathan.Thanks mate.

[Nathan123]

9mm LUGER (9x19mm 9mm PARABELLUM)

PISTOL: Beretta 925B
BARELL: 12.4cm
CASES: Super-X
PRIMER: CCI-500

For some odd reason he does not list case length for this round, maybe one of these other fellas can help you out with that.

125gn Lead Round Nose

AP-70N 3.9gn 900fps - AP-70N 4.3gn 990fps
WIN-231 3.8gn 910fps - WIN-231 4.1gn 980fps
WSF 4.0gn 945fps - WSF 4.7gn 1055fps
700-X 3.2gn 920fps - 700-X 3.4gn 980fps
BULLSEYE 3.5gn 930fps - BULLSEYE 3.8gn 965fps
RED DOT 3.3gn 890fps - RED DOT 3.6gn 1005fps
UNIQUE 4.1gn 910fps - UNIQUE 4.5gn 1010fps
-----------------------------------------------------
147gn Lead CFP

WIN-231 3.3gn 865fps - WIN-231 3.5gn 905fps
WSF 3.7gn 905fps - WSF 4.1gn 965fps


If you want to know any more for projectiles other han lead (or any other calibre - rifle or pistol) just let me know.

[irish murphy]

Thanks mate,its just these 2 i havent loaded for before.And they will be used in a glock.I thought these fellas might have been able to help.I guess they have their secret loads and dont want to let the aussies in on it hahahahahah

[DWARREN123]

I have heard, do not know personally, that Glocks do not like lead bullets due to poly rifling so be careful guys!

[Nathan123]

Quote:       Originally Posted by DWARREN123

I have heard, do not know personally, that Glocks do not like lead bullets due to poly rifling so be careful guys!

I actually just read the same thing over in the reloading part.

Might be something to check out further mate, before you run the lead through those glocks.

[irish murphy]

Its too late for that,ive already got 2000 projies.
230gn lead round nose.

[toolman]

Irish, I just noticed this thread, try taking a look @ www.hodgdon.com they have Win. powder info. I can't find my Win. manual but they should have load info. The Glocks are famous for leading barrels when using cast bullets, I'd look at some copper-clad bullets like Berry's or Rainier.

[irish murphy]

Not that easy to get over here mate.These projies arent raw lead,they are covered in the black hard moly coat.But i have had leading problems with the same projies in my old ruger SBH 44mag.I make my own 200gn pills for my 357magnum and have never had leading.Maybe my bullet alloy is far better than the bulk lead projies you buy.

[Nathan123]

I posted a thread over in the reloading section just to be sure. One of the comments i read included the word BOOM at the end of the sentance.

Hopefully they will be a little more giving with their info about that than their load data, LOL.

[toolman]

Irish, the GLOCK's have polygonal rifling vs. standard land\groove rifling and this is what causes the leading. Think of it this way, if you look down the barrel of a GLOCK, it will look like a 60's representation of a stop sign spiraling into never-never land, rather than a "real" gun with standard rifling. BTW, you and Nathan need to relax a bit, this isn't an "us against them" pissing match, we're all friends here.

[Nathan123]

Quote:       Originally Posted by toolman

BTW, you and Nathan need to relax a bit, this isn't an "us against them" pissing match, we're all friends here.

We know that mate, we are only having a laugh.

[toolman]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Nathan123

We know that mate, we are only having a laugh.

All's Cool, I'm still going to mess with ya though... BTW, I've got some good .22 LR loads for ya...

[Nathan123]

Quote:       Originally Posted by toolman

BTW, I've got some good .22 LR loads for ya...

Ah mate good stuff, i need some good loads for the .22 Those buffalo up the road need sorting out

[irish murphy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by toolman

you and Nathan need to relax a bit, this isn't an "us against them" pissing match, we're all friends here.

What are you talking about,where did i have a go at anyone?