[JMcDonald]

Quote:       Originally Posted by big shrek

Semi-autos have too many parts & springs that will eventually NEED to be replaced...so unless you brought spares, yer screwed.

The only thing about this, is in a "survival" situation you would probably run out of ammo LONG LONG LONG before any decent semi-auto will actually require a parts replacement. I mean, a good semi-auto should easily do 10k rounds before anything actually breaks. How much ammo would you really expect to have in any suvival situation? I mean, even if you pillaged around and used it for hunting and the occasional battle, it would probably be years before you actually went through that many rounds. And if its been that long and you are both still alive and the situation is bad enough to warrant carrying around a rifle and using it daily (zombie apocolypse), then for common rifles like 10/22s it is pretty likely you could have found a replacement (or another model to get parts from).

But, we're getting pretty fantastic now, haha.

Though, one cant deny that most semi-autos lack the reliability in day-to-day conditions. Ive actually been thinking of buying a second 10/22 and modifying it with a little looser tolerances, and perhaps channels to guide grit out of the action. I got some sand in my 10/22 and it wasn't terrible, but it did cause noticably more FTEs.

[andrew cochran]

So has this thread died?

[Dan22]

Andy, It dies and then someone else has a suggestion.

I’m thinking maybe a stainless steel rifle would probably make sense in the elements.

A few simple spare parts in the butt stock would be nice to have.

I have a Winchester 9422 that is a winner but not stainless. My Rossi model-59 copy of a Winchester model-62 is another sweetie that I just love to handle. Taurus makes a stainless steel copy of the model-62 so if it is reliable I’d love to try one out.

I’m still thinking a Ruger stainless Super Single Six would be about as reliable as you can get. I like the feel and balance of a 6-1/2” barrel on that one.

Always wanted a S&W model 34 kit gun and now they have a stainless version with more shots but it sure is expensive.

Taurus has a nice stainless .22 revolver that looks promising.

I love .22’s.

[andrew cochran]

Naw I take that back Savage Mark II is better.

[larmus]

what do you guys think of the win. golden boy? ive seen and handled one but never shot one or check out the action.

[andrew cochran]

Ya mean Henry? Nice gun But I'll stick to a bolt action. Too nice a gun to take in the woods and bang up for survival. But yes it's an option.

[squirrelblaster]

id go with a bolt or single shot rifle for the best reliabilty, and probably a ruger single six for the most reliable 22 pistol.

[andrew cochran]

I say a clip fed will work for a while because if you lose the clip it will work as a single shot.

[larmus]

andrew, yes that's what i mean. thanks

[Old Klingon]

First time on the board. Pleasure to be sharing it with my fellow gun folks. Wish all of you well. Regarding a good 22 for survival and such, I recently acquired a Browning Buckmark Rifle (Stainless w Grey Laminate Stock / bull barrel) fitted with a 2 - 7 Burris Scope. With CCI mini mags, the gun has worked flawlessly and shoots with a half inch at 50 yards. I am more than happy with it. Hopes this helps. Good luck.

[larmus]

welcome to g&g. glad you could come and share with us. have fun.

[Cleankill47]

Okay, I've got it, the perfect .22 woodsman setup:

The rifle:

The rifle would be my Marlin 981T tube-fed bolt action .22 with my scope and a decent, tough, comfortable sling with a knife sheath sewn into it. I would have a long thin block of wood grooved to fit in between the tube and the barrel with no movement or without having to wrap it to keep it in place, because what if you have to use the cord? No block!

Then I would wrap the tube and barrel anyway with 550 paracord, about 50 feet. Then, I would put on one of those pouches that attaches to the stock, and in there I would have 100 rounds of Remington Yellow Jackets, a small bottle of Break-Free CLP, a broken in half double-ended utility brush (the military kind) and a .22 caliber boresnake.

There's the rifle. Bolt-action, everything you need on the rifle, even cleaning gear.


The Handgun:

Without a doubt, a stainless Ruger Super Single Six convertible with a 6 1/2" barrel. I would have it in a comfortable holster on a strong belt with the Magnum cylinder in it with 6 rounds of the V-Max ammo in it, and the other cylinder in a spare pouch on the belt with 6 rounds of Velocitors or Yellow Jackets in it.


If you need a quick shot at something bigger than you or bigger game then you thought, draw the Ruger and take your headshot; they're accurate enough.


So there it is. What do you guys think? I'm actually going to do this if I get the stuff to do it....

[Dan22]

I agree that a bolt-action .22 rifle , tube feed or clip, could be used as a single shot if the tube feed was somehow damaged or if you lost a clip.

OK, I’ve been thinking about the ideal survival .22 rifle. First thing is to make it stainless steel for durability.

The stock is of major concern for me. I love wood but in a survival situation I would appreciate a light weight stock being made from carbon fiber with all kinds of room inside to store stuff.

If the stock was long enough to cover and protect a tube feed you could also find room for a cleaning rod or maybe steel rods for cooking purposes. In the stock you could store extra ammo, gun oil, cleaning patches, maybe a spare firing pin or extractor and some basic tools. A clip feed stock would be slightly different with spare clips stored inside.

You could also store a compass, fishhooks, line, small knife, fire starter and who knows what else.

Maybe some enterprising stock-maker could see the merit of such an aftermarket stock.

[Rimjob]

^ +1

[Seven©]

Has anybody suggested a Marlin 39A as the rifle?

[ArkansasHunter]

The most reliable 22 rifles on planet earth has to be Marlins line of rim fire's.
They may not have a model you like, but there the best in reliblity there is.
A.H

[Seven©]

Quote:       Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

The most reliable 22 rifles on planet earth has to be Marlins line of rim fire's.

Yep. Marlene is older than probably 80% of the members here, but she's never ever had a FTF/FTE. She'll shoot shorts or longs of any type and very accurately as well.

[Dan22]

AH,

I have always liked Marlin rifles and have long lusted for a .22 “Mountie” with the straight stock. Anyone I ever met who owned a Marlin never had a bad word to say about them.

Earlier today I was researching stainless steel bolt-action .22 rifles and discovered that Marlin already makes one with a Carbon Fiber stock.

I wonder how much trouble it would be to add internal strengthening webs to the Carbon Fiber stock to take advantage of all the space available and still retain rigidity.

A pop off butt-plate that doesn’t require a Phillips head screwdriver would be a great feature.

I’m thinking a square tunnel down the center where the stock is the widest for a few boxes of .22 ammo and then some round tunnels, fitted with plastic tubes for various functions such as survival gear, parts, cleaning stuff and other items that could be thought of in a design committee to think of clever things to add.

A survival weapon would require some accuracy but most squirrel or rabbit shots are taken at 50 yards or less so minute of angle accuracy is just not needed. A Marlin is more than up to the job, as would be several others.

My only personal request would be space to add a couple of metal skewers for cooking over an open fire instead of a branch.

[TACAV]

Shouldnt this topic be called "What is the most reliable viable .22 rifle or pistol for survival?"

[ArkansasHunter]

Dan you have a good idea but the semi-auto model here is as close to a survival model as your going to get from marlin...A.H


Model 70PSS Stainless

If you like to take a rifle with you when you're backpacking, boating, four-wheeling or just taking a hike, the Model 70PSS, with its 7-shot clip magazine, is a natural for you. You can take it apart or put it together in a matter of seconds. And, this all-weather version of the famous "Papoose" enjoys the versatility of stainless steel construction, combined with a rugged fiberglass-filled black polycarbonate stock. It's also equipped with an automatic "last-shot" bolt hold-open, as well as a manual hold-open. It comes in a padded carrying case with built-in flotation.
The 70PSS is an easy-to-transport, quick takedown autoloading 22 you can take with you just about anywhere in its padded, floatable Cordura® carrying case.


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If some didn't know most composite or synthectic stocks are hollow and the walls are less than a 1/4 thick.