Old 12-15-2007, 12:49 PM   #1
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Jungle Carbine in .308

Well just went by the local gun store and saw one for around 250. It looks as if someone has redone it as the bluing is removed for the barrel to look polished and the stock is in a very good condition. But what does everyone know about it and how much does this rifle usually sell for.
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:02 PM   #2
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Those are Ishapore re worked Rifles that were converted to jungle Carbines...They sold New for 299.00 up here 7 or 8 years ago. I bought one, tried it, got rid of it because I couldnt get stripper clips or extra mags at the time, and It wasn't an Original Jungle Carbine..They are OK for a shooter however!
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:13 PM   #3
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wht do you think about the price? Is it actually worth looking into? When i looked over the rifle nothing really seemed wrong about it, just I wawsn't a fan of the bolt on the enfields. That extra push wasn't the best.
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Its not gonna gain much in value but they are a loud shooting fun gun...The Enfield Actions "Cock on locking" is one of the fastest Military Bolt actions ever designed.
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Congrats on post #3500, mooseman

F1609 - The price is OK for what you are getting. Me, I'd buy a Savage .308 for a bit more and be sure I was getting an accurate rifle. Your call.
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:29 PM   #6
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Congrats on post #3500, mooseman
F1609 - The price is OK for what you are getting. Me, I'd buy a Savage .308 for a bit more and be sure I was getting an accurate rifle. Your call.
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:46 PM   #7
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If it is the British Jungle Carbine - forget it

The British army rifle of WW2 and 2, the SMLE,
was redone in what they called a Jungle Carbine
in the post WW2 era. It was plagued by problems
of accuracy the British never solved most likely due
to the barrel length and rigidity which worked with the .303 cartridge in the larger gun but not when the barrel was cut down to the shorter configuration. A large number of them were dumped by the British and found their way to America.

This is not a good buy at any price as it has no collector value other than excellent condition in original configuration and you will most likely never have replacement parts if something breaks as the gun is probably sixty years or over sixty years old.
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:07 PM   #8
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ok, just saw it as a low price and didn't know if it was a good deal for the price or not.
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Again, it is not a bad price for a .308 shooter/ Enfield action..they are tough and reliable.
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I think a company called "Gibbs" also made a repro or modified existing into .308 and a couple other calibers including 45/70 - they looked like a Jungle carbine. I think the company is now out of business - I don't know much about them though.
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Quote:       Originally Posted by nathangdad View Post
The British army rifle of WW2 and 2, the SMLE,
was redone in what they called a Jungle Carbine
in the post WW2 era. It was plagued by problems
of accuracy the British never solved most likely due
to the barrel length and rigidity which worked with the .303 cartridge in the larger gun but not when the barrel was cut down to the shorter configuration. A large number of them were dumped by the British and found their way to America.

This is not a good buy at any price as it has no collector value other than excellent condition in original configuration and you will most likely never have replacement parts if something breaks as the gun is probably sixty years or over sixty years old.

The problems werent caused by a short barrel.I have a short barrel smle which shoots fine.The flash hider was blamed for a long time for poor accuracy,but even with the hider removed the accuracy wasnt improved by much.What did make the original carbine shoot bad was the fact the action had been machined to remove excess weight.Which inturn made the action flex and move more.The whole rifle was made to improve its weight and mobility in the jungles of asia.They rarely break down and arent hard to find parts for.


If this rifle is a reproduction of a no5 JC and they havent removed metal from the action like the originals it is most likely a shooter.My mate has a original Faz No5 JC and it will (M.O.P)
all day everyday out the scrub.

Have any of the AIA smle copies turned up over there?They arent chambered in 303,but they come in 308 and 7.62x39.

Australian International Arms - No.4 mk.IV Modern SMLE Rifle in 7.62x51mm NATO
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It is a Gibbs, looked at photo's of them and it's the exact same. Still the price on gunbroker for the rifle is going higher than that at the store...... might need to do some shopping.
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If it is a GIBBS and marked as such, they have a limited lifetime warranty, However they are only worth 150--200 dollars by Blue book Value.They made 2 versions, one using a 2A action, one using a No.4 action...the .308 were the 2A actions with reconfigured original wood...
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Gibbs called them the No7 Jungle Carbine
I'd like to have one , but not at that price.

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Old 12-17-2007, 11:57 PM   #15
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I have an original no.5,shoots scary accurate! Dave.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:08 PM   #16
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the first high power rifle I shot was a #5 jungle carbine of my dads I still have it I mainly shoot cast bullets thru it I have found a lot of these rifles slug out at .308 instead of .313 so I chose bullets accordingly
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"...The British army rifle of...and 2..." The No. 4 rifle is NOT an SMLE. Only the No. 1 is an SMLE.
The Gibbs rifles were bubba'd No.4's. Gibb's is gone too.
Any No. 5 in .308 Win. is a bubba'd rifle as well.
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