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Old 12-22-2007, 05:20 AM   #1
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rcbs comp dies

i had about 800 cases that needed to be resized and my lee dies couldnt do the job.
the cases were just too big.
at the insistance of our pal moose i bought the RCBS competition dies.
i lubed em up using the caseslick lube (i dont like it because it stinks and i have to tumble to get it off the cases)
but i just breezed through 45 lake city match cases without a hitch.
verdict:
at 90 bucks thats an expensive set of dies.
BUT i am able to use the 90 bucks worth of brass that wouldve been garbage without them.
i havent tried to actually seat a bullet yet because now i have to wait for that damn caseslick to get cleaned off!
B.T.W. these dies seem really well made and are cool lookin too!
p.s. it's 3 a.m. so i cant just go buy a different lube!

update:4:50 am
i found a tube of lee case lube and used it to reload 10 rnds. of
180comp.matchking h.p.
40 gr. varget
cci primers
l.c. brass
no crooked loads with these dies.
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Old 12-22-2007, 01:06 PM   #2
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Good quality Dies are a Must for producing Good quality ammo...And they will last a Lifetime...
Load on Billy...Load on !!!
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Old 12-22-2007, 01:55 PM   #3
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ive got 80 handloads to take out .
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Old 12-22-2007, 04:29 PM   #4
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I'm looking forward to seeing some paper for how these loads are working for you...
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:37 AM   #5
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ok
this is one of the cases that were way too big to chamber.
i sized and loaded this one.
it will chamber but it is pretty stiff to close the bolt.
i colored the bullet to see what was going on.
i hand fed this round into the gun.
the photos are of both sides of the same round.
what is making that pronounced mark on the bullet?



i am not loading one more of these until i know whats going on with this.
ive got 25 of these cases with powder charges in them waiting until then

is it because this is military match brass?
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:22 AM   #6
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Billy, try seating your bullets a little deeper and c what happens, I use all mil. brass in all my 308's and 7-08 with no troublen, not many of them r match cases.
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:42 AM   #7
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i think i am just going to throw it away.
i am sick of fooling with it.
i ran it through a $90 die and it is acting weird .
im done with this s#!+

it's only 45 cases
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:56 AM   #8
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If what I am seeing is what you are talking about,that ring on the one bullet,that is where the body is going in the freebore,nothing to worry about.The freebore is just large enough to allow the bullet entrance.Then it meets the riflings and lands.The riflings are boresize and the lands and bullet are the same.Everything looks great to me.Also the full resize die,if standard wont put the brass back down to factory spec,s,just close,so the bolt may have a little resistance when closing.There is nothing to worry about there either. sam.

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Old 12-24-2007, 12:25 PM   #9
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i am the only person i have ever seen actually reload a single round.
and you guys wonder why i ask so many questions!

the bolt is HARD to close on this brass.
as in i would have to stand up at the bench to get leverage to close it.
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:38 PM   #10
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What happens if you dont load one and try to chamber it? sam.
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:39 PM   #11
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same thing .
hard to close.
i have full length and neck sized this brass
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:41 PM   #12
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On your resizing die,does the base of the die touch the shell holder without a casing? sam.
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:42 PM   #13
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Billy, what type of cartridge is that and what is your COAL? It may just need to be seated a bit deeper
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:43 PM   #14
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thats alright i have already tumbled ,fireformed, trimmed , neck sized , primed and loaded another batch using lake city brass that isnt match and fits nicely into my chamber.
i used the already charged cases to fill this batch.

OAL 2.785
deeper seating isnt the answer .
thanks fellas.
yes sam it touches +1/4 turn
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:48 PM   #15
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I am sure you been doing this for sometime now but let me ask.

Is the die all the way down against the shell plate?

Have you tried the use of a stony-point comparator to set the OAL of the bullet?
When applying the lube do you just spray them or take a plastic baggie spray the lube in the bag then add the brass. Then shake them and rub them against the bag to lube the brass. I also take a pipe cleaner and dip it into the RCBS case lube. Then swril it on the inside of the brass neck. I find you get the lube ot coat the brass and hardly any build up. Plus I also use the carbide dies and resize ball on my dies.
Also when you seat the bullet is the seating die high enough not to deform the shoulder of the brass. I do not use the seating die to crimp my bullets. I do that in a separate stage if it is for Semi guns. You would be amazed at just a little to much crimping with the die will cause a problem if not set right.
I also started to use this
rickjamison.html

It will help with many problems and if you keep a log of your brass helps make record keeping easier. Now I like RCBS dies but I find redding dies the way to go for precision reloading. I was just thrown into shock seeing the price of the 6.6x284 Redding S type Comp die set....
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:55 PM   #16
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That sounds great. sam.
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:56 PM   #17
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i am only out a buncha time and 50 primers.
it's not a big deal.
i am done with this batch of brass though!
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I always smash the mouth closed so I cant mix them in but I have a short memory. sam.
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:09 PM   #19
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thats a good idea.
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:12 PM   #20
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Billy, send me those casings....
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