02-04-2008, 07:49 PM
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#81 | | Firearm Zealot
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for the jianshe arsenal goes like this.
add the 1st digit in the number to the year 1956
late 1956 guns only had 6 digits
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02-04-2008, 07:51 PM
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#83 | | Firearm Zealot
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1980 was the last year of production from this arsenal
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02-05-2008, 05:14 PM
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#84 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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um, i believe the number you are looking for is 6.
so mine is made somewhere between 1959 and 66 according to res45's little chart thing?
3 million (3,555,555) 1959
10 million (10,555,555) 1966
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02-06-2008, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by res45 Hey res. I'm not sure if those are tritium or not?
I've seen those sights on an SKS in a gun shop. The tritium used in night sights is in the gaseous form, thus why you see them in the little glass viles like the Trijicon or Meprolights. The ones on the picture in the link you supplied, look to be just coated with a substance that glows. There doesn't appear to be any vile or container of any sort on those sights and the gas would evaporate over time in the first place. 2ndly, they look to small to have anything in them that would make a difference.
If that is a picture of your own, I bet if you go into a dark room with it, look at the sights and how much they glow, then put a flashlight on the sights to charge them, you'll find they glow somewhat stronger? If so, then they are just another form of phosphorus sights. Tritium will not be affected by light.
On another note, and not sure If I mentioned it in my previous reply or not, but Tritium is only good for maybe 10-12 years. Most SKSs are quite a bit older. They would no longer glow at all if they were Tritium. The Tritium would be well past its' lifespan ,so to speak.
I'll try and research it and see if that gun shop still has the one I saw or any others and check it out. I'm curious now. lol I'll ask my bro as he worked at a nuke plant for about 30yrs. and went to MIT. A brainiac as I call him. He'll know if it was around at that time for starters and if it was, if a country like Yugoslavia had the resources to store it or the money to buy it to even use? If they didn't have chrome for the barrels, I don't think they'd of had Tritium either?
I think the likely hood of Yugoslavia having it or having the resources to get it is enough to discount the fact it is Tritium. I'll ask though.
Pretty sure still phosphorus though.
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02-06-2008, 06:16 AM
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#86 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Tritium
Sometime around 1980, apparently, the Yugoslav government investigated the use of flip-up tritium sights for low-light shooting.
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02-06-2008, 06:23 AM
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oh for heavens sake .
here.
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02-06-2008, 09:59 AM
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so the letter on mine is a Z.. so it was made in 1986?!?! jeepers.
note to G-meister -- not trying to burn you or anything, but glock tritium night sights are not little vials, they are just dents like the phosphorous ones on the yugo. i find it interesting that the yugo in question of having the tritium sights, has what looks like little rocks, not highly processed material - as in the glock, which has paint im guessing.
oh. WOW..... res45's chart was for chinese manufacture dates... WOW...
i am just guessing that the serial number is a Z, because thats what the dude i bought it from put on the paper, on the stock it just starts with a 6, not a letter, although i think on the importers etching on the side of the reciever it does have a Z (those are importer marks, right? - not factory?)
sorry billy.
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02-06-2008, 11:22 AM
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My brother also has the Z version bought it in a pawn shop for $189 about 2 years ago. It,s a brand spanking new rifle, never fired bluing is 100% stock never finished,no cosmoline whatsoever,some of the later Models were made just for import purposes before it was stopped,not sure how many made it into the country,his was imported by Inter Ordinance. They still make them as far as I know. There listed on there web site under Sporting Rifles tab. http://www.zastava-arms.co.yu/images...br />
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Actually there little vials of Tritium gas with a phosphorus coating on the inside
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02-06-2008, 12:21 PM
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Res45: Actually there little vials of Tritium gas with a phosphorus coating on the inside
are you referring to the glock ones?
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02-06-2008, 12:47 PM
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No the one's I'm referring to are on the YUGO's just a guess but I think there all made the same way just held in place in the sight differently. AmeriGlo Tritium Night Sights
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Well as i was just sitting here typing this a BIG ASS DEER just ran down through the wood out by my window. Grrrrrrr.
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02-06-2008, 01:43 PM
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huh, those look different than the ones i am familliar with, the only tritium ones ive seen are the ones that come on a glock as an option when you get one, and those look just like a yugo's, only they're a greenish white, i havent seen them like the ones you posted.
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02-06-2008, 01:53 PM
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Those are just examples not the standard,they come in all shapes sizes and colors and configuration for handguns and rifles. As far as the YUGO's go you probably want see one there pretty rare.
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02-06-2008, 02:20 PM
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I bought a rear sight assembly off ebay a while back because my Norinco was missing it's leaf and the assembly I bought must have been Yugo. I never paid much attention to the flip up part with the two whitish dots until I read this thread. After reading I dug the assembly back out(I had put it up after it to failed to work) and set it in a window for a while and sure enough it glows in the dark. It's pretty daggum cool too.
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02-06-2008, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Philip | so the letter on mine is a Z.. so it was made in 1986?!?! jeepers.
note to G-meister -- not trying to burn you or anything, but glock tritium night sights are not little vials, they are just dents like the phosphorous ones on the yugo. i find it interesting that the yugo in question of having the tritium sights, has what looks like little rocks, not highly processed material - as in the glock, which has paint im guessing.
oh. WOW..... res45's chart was for chinese manufacture dates... WOW...
i am just guessing that the serial number is a Z, because thats what the dude i bought it from put on the paper, on the stock it just starts with a 6, not a letter, although i think on the importers etching on the side of the reciever it does have a Z (those are importer marks, right? - not factory?)
sorry billy. | Look if yours was manufactured in 86 add 12 and thats what 98? So if any rifle manufactured in 1986, as you say yours was, and if it even had Tritium, it would no longer be effective enough to glow as it is past it's life span. Again, about 12 years is the life of Tritium. 2ndly, Yugoslavia didn't even have chrome for the barrels on the SKS, where would they get Tritium?
They are not a rich country. If they had the money to by anything, would it be Tritium for rifle sights? If they bartered for it, what could they possibly have worth bartering for Tritium? IT is not Tritium on SKS flip up sights. It is treated phosphorus.
Also, the sights on the SKS pictured in an above thread are so small, they wouldn't hold enough Tritium to even be effective, not to mention. they appear to be out in the open with nothing protecting them from breakage.
FIRST, LOOK UP TRITIUM IN A DICTIONARY.
SILICONE RUBBER CUSHIONS THE GLASS LAMPS OR VILES FOR SHOCK PROTECTION.
ALUMINUM CYLINDERS PROTECT AND CONTAIN THE GLASS LAMPS OR WHAT I CALLED VILES.
JUST FOLLOW THIS LINK AND YOU'LL UNDERSTAND HOW TRITIUM HAS TO BE HANDLED. IT IS A RADIOACTIVE HYDROGEN ISOTOPE GAS AND IS PRESSURIZED FILLED INTO A GLASS LAMP OR VILE AS I CALL THEM. JUST FOLLOW THIS LINK AND LOOK AND READ THE DIAGRAM AND DESCRIPTIONS OF IT. ENOUGH SAID. AND NOTE THE WARRANTY FOR 12 YEARS, THE LIFE SPAN OF TRITIUM. Trijicon Tritium & Fiber Optic Night Sights
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02-06-2008, 03:09 PM
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Oh darn...there goes my chance to be brain dead from radiation...lol does it really matter if it is or is not tritium? If it was I'm sure they wouldn't have been allowed in the country even if it isn't enough to hurt anyone. Does the government NEED a good reason to cut off imports? No. That would be more than enough and they never would have made it into the country. Just because of that, I'm inclined to believe it's something else. Anyway, it doesn't much matter to me either way.
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02-06-2008, 03:13 PM
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I'm just trying to get him understand the stuff and that it just can't be slapped onto a piece of metal and put onto a rifle. lol
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02-06-2008, 03:20 PM
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lol understandable. But then, a conspiracy about radioactive rifle parts is much more interesting!
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02-06-2008, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jmp8927 | lol understandable. But then, a conspiracy about radioactive rifle parts is much more interesting! | This is true. lol
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02-06-2008, 04:50 PM
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Ok whatever you say I'm glad somebody has all the right answers. Look under the night sight list. Yugo M59/66 Survey Serial Number Data N52010x thru End
Just to throw in another wrinkle they also put them on there M70 AK-47's.
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