12-29-2007, 04:50 PM
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| Banned | AvP R... my review... spoiler warning Ok, let me first say that if you have not yet seen this movie or plan to, don't read any further. However if you don't plan on seeing it or already have, by all means, continue. SPOILER WARNING!!! First, I love the Predator movies. As you can tell from my screen name and my old avatar. Now, let me start with the bad. The plot had more freakin holes in it then anything I've ever seen before. The acting was, well, ok at BEST. The movie starts, and I guess, the hybrid Pred/Alien can grow to full size in a matter of minutes. Because before the craft even gets out of earths atmosphere it's full grown and goes after the ONE, yes one Pred aboard. If you recall the first AvP, there were what seemed to be hundreds of Predators aboard, seems they all vanished. Did I mention the plot makes no sense at all? At least the one uber warrior Pred that comes after a distress signal has been sent is in true form. Not since the first Predator movie has it been a true bad mofo. He breaks out some new toys which are really sweet. The hybrid Pred beats up on all the other Aliens like a bad stepbrother. There are some moments of comedy in the movie, especially at the end when one of the main characters yells to the other "GET TO THE CHOPPER!". The greatest moment of the movie happens before this though, when the National Guard is on their way to airlift the survivors out and some of the people start to question if this is going to happen or if they are being lied to. Followed by "Our government wouldn't lie to us"... The entire movie theater cracked up, best line of this year and next year. The ending caught me off guard, and I honestly don't know if they ran out of ideas or if they plan to make another movie. The fight scenes were very nice, and again, the Pred was finally a true warrior/monster again. If you enjoy the movies as I do, you'll love it. If your expecting to see a well written movie that actually has a plot, wait for the DVD to come out. One of the reviews I read in our paper gave it a B, and I guess compared to the first one and the last two Alien movies it would be. I just wished they could have mixed the first AvP and this one in. The plot of the first AvP movie was great and made lots of sense to the grand design of the movies, but the Predator was, well, he didn't show up. In this one it's the exact opposite. So, thats my two cents, take it for what it's worth. Actually I take part of this back. The first AvP made sense in it being the first movie, however no sense to the first Predator. And in the first Alien it takes what seems like days for the Alien to pop out of the guys stomach, but every movie after that it only takes an hour at most, and very little time for it to grow. I realize these are horror movies, but great movie lines at least stick to some key elements of the first installment... Last edited by Pred; 12-29-2007 at 04:54 PM. |
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12-29-2007, 05:05 PM
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12-29-2007, 06:51 PM
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| Banned | As I said, if you like the Predator/Alien movies, you'll love it. But if your going just to see a movie, see something else. The plot is horrible, the acting is just as bad. Granted if you force yourself, the acting would probably be spot on if something like that ever happened. The ending is whats bugging me. About 3/4 of the way through the movie the Predator takes one of his shoulder mounted cannons off and turns it into a gun(kind of cool actually). Well, one of the humans gets it and keeps it until the end until Army Rangers(I guess) take it from him. So the movie ends with three military/FBI/CIA guys taking a briefcase to some women, who best I can tell has nothing to do with, well, any of the three. So one of the guys opens it up and shows it to her and talks about the technology of it. She says the world is not ready for it. Now, I'm not for sure if the guy says "It's not FROM our world", or "It's not FOR our world". Thats the part that throwing me off. If it's the first, well no crap. If it's the second I guess it's paving the way for another movie. Anyways, thats where it ends. |
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12-29-2007, 06:56 PM
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| I liked it for the action and I like those movies. The plot sucked, the ending sucked, and it was way too short. The fight between Predalien and Predator was short and pretty lame IMO. I loved when the hot chick got plastered to the wall in the hospital. I wanted to see more predators and aliens. And that was NOT Colorado, not even close to the landscape here, that pissed me off a little bit. But I am looking forward to the next one where I guess American invades space??? |
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12-29-2007, 07:04 PM
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| I went to see it the other night... I liked it, but wasn't impressed.... It was like 'first contact' was made 6 times.... That took up a good 20 minutes of the movie... = LAME. I enjoyed watching it, but it could have been much better...
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12-29-2007, 07:31 PM
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| Banned | Yeah, were you all confused by the ending as I was? What did he say at the end, from our world, or not for our world? I did like the gun pron though. At least they gave the characters enough brains to grab the guns from the abandoned National Guard vehicles, and they were smart enough to go to the gun store. I'd just like to know where the 100's of Pred's from the end of the first movie went... |
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12-29-2007, 07:34 PM
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| He said that the gun wasn't for our world...which I thought implied we will be going AFTER the aliens and/or predators with their own technology. I believe the line went like this. Ms. Lady-"I don't think our world is ready for this technology." Mr. Gubmint man-"Well it isn't for our world is it Ms. Lady?" |
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12-29-2007, 08:42 PM
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| Pred, the last scene will make more sense if you'd caught the woman's name. Ms. Yutani, as in: Weyland-Yutani. We met Charles Weyland in the first AvP, and now we've met the other half of what will eventually become "The Company" in the Aliens movies. What I got from it is that the starfaring technology we see in the Aliens movies is reverse-engineered from the plasma caster. Of course, only having that to work from, Weyland-Yutani couldn't match Yautja techology even in the future of the Aliens films. But yes, weak plot, characters I couldn't care less about, but great action, good cinematography, and I, for one, am extremely pleased they went back to a great deal of practical SFX instead of mostly CG. The xenomorphs just look so much more menacing when they're actually on set with the actors. I liked the new toys too. The whip is awesome (I can use one, so I'm biased), double plasma-casters were fun, and the shuriken are always spiffy. I did like the fact that the movie wasn't shy about victim choice, although I knew they'd never touch the little girl, at least one death was a somewhat pleasant surprise. I do dislike the changes in the xenomorphs' life-cycle though, without explanation. Maturation is way too rapid and missed the point of the earlier films. The idea was that, if not coccooned, the host will move away from the attack site and spread the infestation. Chestbursting as soon as the host wakes and growing to maturity in what seems like minutes really loses something. I did like the predalien design. It wasn't too much and looked like a logical extrapolation based on what we've seen in the other films. I'm guessing that without a proper queen, the predalien was going to mature into one (notice how it sort of bossed the others around), but the multi-implantation thing seemed very odd, especially if pregnancy was required? I'm not sure. The idea of weird tangents on the life-cycle was raised in the Dark Horse comic series, Aliens: Labyrinth, with some weird permutations involving pregnant humans occurring in a hive dying of a fungal illness. Eh, my wife and I went in wanting a fairly mindless, fun action flick, and we got it. So there's that. Definitely leagues better than AvP and Alien: Resurrection. Yes Pred, I'm a big fan of the lines too, can you tell? Now to hide the evidence *pours blue stuff all over the thread*. - Coeloptera |
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12-29-2007, 08:54 PM
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| Banned | LMAO.. what was up with the blue stuff anyways. I've seen every one of these movies, but I don't remember the name of that women. Does it show up in Alien, Aliens, or AvP? The victim choice was better. When the hybrid went into the nursery though, I was really worried they could take it to far. But, nothing happened on screen so no big deal. The multi impregnation of the pregnant women was bizarre. I also liked the sound effects they used, and the music. Much was from the first Predator and Aliens. I think the final fight scene was good, but being so dark really hurt it. I'm also wondering how they can play off the nuke. I remember them saying they needed to evacuate the town, so maybe they will play the Resident Evil II card and say a nuclear reactor blew up. As I've said before, there are way to many plot holes in the film itself, and way to many loose ends that should have been tied up at the end. |
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12-30-2007, 12:13 AM
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| Senior Member  | You fellers are in way way tooooooo deep. I can't even remember whatshernames name!  Scotty
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12-30-2007, 12:17 AM
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| WOW Predator and Alien are on T.V right now |
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12-30-2007, 01:13 AM
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| They mentioned the woman's name on-screen, but it was really quick, it was right when the guy with the case came in. Of course, the company name has been stated multiple times in the Aliens films. It was in text in the first movie, and stated verbally thereafter. Go check Wikipedia, they have a list of appearances. I did forget to mention the nuclear strike. You cannot hide that sort of thing in the US. Not to mention from every seismologist just about planetwide. Of course, my wife's just cynical enough to believe the characters who "escaped" would be executed later anyway, since they're liabilities both for covering up the existance of extraterrestrials and the nuke. Of course, all I could think when the predalien went into the nursery was "Ooooo, I found the buffet!" - Coeloptera |
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12-30-2007, 10:38 AM
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| Video game buffs that liked the alien/predator series of movies might like the video games that follow fairly closely the movies,of course they are rather old now. Alien Gold,Alien 2 Predator,Alien 2 Predator Prtmal Hunt.
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01-02-2008, 09:17 AM
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| I saw "I am Legend" as well as "AVP:R" and I have to say the biggest B.S. part of both movies is... Once I realized what is going on, you WOULD NOT catch me without the biggest, baddest hand cannon (Desert Eagle? Grizzly .50? S&W .460?) hooked to my hip 24/7 as well as a military-style rifle on my back and perhaps a handgun version of the AR-15 or perhaps a sawn-off short-barrel shotgun with slug-shot (Kinda like Arnold had in T2), with LOTS of extra magazines and ammunition in a pouch. BOTH movies, in this department, were lacking, in my opinion, greatly. But, I loved both of them nonetheless. I did notice some of the flaws of the AVPR as Pred mentioned.
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