I'm about to order a few ak's for my dad, myself, and a guy that works for us. I've been scanning the classicarms.us website and there prices seem very reasonable. I was all set on a yugo m70b1 for the guy who works for us, and two m70b2 sidefolders for me and my dad. They seem to have a pretty good reputation.
Well i contacted my ffl dealer to have him fax over his license info to classic arms and he informed me that all the yugo's are junk and that he would order me a wasr 10 for about 50 dollars more than the yugo i had decided on.
That seems very odd to me b/c everything i've read thus far is the wasr10 is the bottom of the pile and the yugos are a step up.
Something smelt fishy to me, but before i order the yugo's what do you guys think of them? Do they feed reliably? I believe they are all from century arms.
Romanian definately aren't "bottom of the barrel."
Yugo are on the upper side of the spectrum tho.
I agree something sounds"fishy"about what he told you. There are other places you could find to order your AK's. I own a Romanian, and it handles just fine. I've also owned in the past an Mak90,Maadi,
and NHM 90. Here's a great link, check it out. AK47 Rifle Reviews
WASR-10's are cheaper than Yugo's and that jerk is trying to reap the profits from someone that he thinks is uninformed. I'd suggest informing him where to stick it.
The Yugo's price at $429 on classic while the Romanian's price at $399 and less... and that's for the packages with all the accessories. For a base WASR-10 with no bayo or lug or muzzle break, they're only asking $289.
He's trying to swindle you out of at least $80 for the packages and perhaps up to $140. You should tell everyone you know not to use him as he's the kind of crap-dealer that makes me want to only buy from the internet.
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WASR-10's are cheaper than Yugo's and that jerk is trying to reap the profits from someone that he thinks is uninformed. I'd suggest informing him where to stick it.
The Yugo's price at $429 on classic while the Romanian's price at $399 and less... and that's for the packages with all the accessories. For a base WASR-10 with no bayo or lug or muzzle break, they're only asking $289.
He's trying to swindle you out of at least $80 for the packages and perhaps up to $140. You should tell everyone you know not to use him as he's the kind of crap-dealer that makes me want to only buy from the internet.
That's what i'm feeling from the guy. Before i completely discredit the guy though after some very rigorous searching into the yugo's last night i have came across alot of people having problems from the century arms sidefolders. Perhaps the guy had heard something bad about them.
He was still way overpriced on the wasr's he was trying to order. which throws a big red flag. I am always extermely cautious when doing business with the guy and this reinforces my prior concerns. I informed my brother in law who recommended him to me, and he wasn't too surprised.
I can't imagine how many people were screwed by people like that before the internet days. The internet has made it very easy for a consumer to be informed and check pricing from hundreds of sources.
After researching some more last night i decided to go ahead and order from classic arms. Here's my order list.
2-Romanian hgm's
1-Yugo sidefolder "chrome" my dad's
1-saiga 7.62x39
1-k31 hand select with id tag. "had to have one"
Lady from classic arms said it would be in before next weekend. I'm sure with all the toys one of them will be a keeper.
Romanian definately aren't "bottom of the barrel."
Yugo are on the upper side of the spectrum tho.
I agree something sounds"fishy"about what he told you. There are other places you could find to order your AK's. I own a Romanian, and it handles just fine. I've also owned in the past an Mak90,Maadi,
and NHM 90. Here's a great link, check it out. AK47 Rifle Reviews
Ive built , handled owned and shot hundreds of AK's from every possible manufacturer or vendor. As far as the classic arms stuff goes the only parts of the original guns they use are the barrels , sights , gas block the bolt carriers, bolts and the gas tube. The rest of the stuff is the same US made cheapest biddder crap. furniture etc..The trigger parts are the same US made stuff. The receivers are pretty much the same except for the yugo trunion pattern is a little different.
In the old days I would have taken one mitchell arms yugo M76 countersniper AK over just about any other gun on the planet. Those days are over. The yugo guns classic is selling are built from war weary demilled yugoslavian army guns that were rode hard and put away wet. The barrels are NOT chrome lined and in that respect are inferior to the romanian barrels. The machine work is better on the yugo stuff on the rest of the parts but thats not enough of a reason to deal with the poor yugo barrels. The yugo guns are cosmetically nicer looking but thats about it.
The Saiga guns are the best real AK's on the market right now. Even in the hunting rifle configuration they can be dolled up to be a normal apearing AK and the barrels are top notch russian quality . If you ask me its a pitiful state of affairs where we cant buy a decent US made .311 bore 7.62x39 chrome lined barrel to build these kits with.
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If you ever wanted to check for rock bottem prices check out J&G gunsales out of Prescott, AZ. They have the best prices I have ever seen, although I think they deal in used firearms only they would be a good website to check out if you were really price concious
Ive built , handled owned and shot hundreds of AK's from every possible manufacturer or vendor. As far as the classic arms stuff goes the only parts of the original guns they use are the barrels , sights , gas block the bolt carriers, bolts and the gas tube. The rest of the stuff is the same US made cheapest biddder crap. furniture etc..The trigger parts are the same US made stuff. The receivers are pretty much the same except for the yugo trunion pattern is a little different.
In the old days I would have taken one mitchell arms yugo M76 countersniper AK over just about any other gun on the planet. Those days are over. The yugo guns classic is selling are built from war weary demilled yugoslavian army guns that were rode hard and put away wet. The barrels are NOT chrome lined and in that respect are inferior to the romanian barrels. The machine work is better on the yugo stuff on the rest of the parts but thats not enough of a reason to deal with the poor yugo barrels. The yugo guns are cosmetically nicer looking but thats about it.
The Saiga guns are the best real AK's on the market right now. Even in the hunting rifle configuration they can be dolled up to be a normal apearing AK and the barrels are top notch russian quality . If you ask me its a pitiful state of affairs where we cant buy a decent US made .311 bore 7.62x39 chrome lined barrel to build these kits with.
How are you comming up with this information? Prove it! I purchased my YUGO with an underfold syock 6 months ago. I dont own cheap guns infact the yugo is the cheapest I own. I have had no problems at all period.The barrel is infact chromed also. If this was true what you are saying would be plasterd all over this forum. So I ask again on what athority are you speaking back your statement up.
How are you comming up with this information? Prove it! I purchased my YUGO with an underfold syock 6 months ago. I dont own cheap guns infact the yugo is the cheapest I own. I have had no problems at all period.The barrel is infact chromed also. If this was true what you are saying would be plasterd all over this forum. So I ask again on what athority are you speaking back your statement up.
I believe the Yugo SKS barrels are not chromed,I would assume that the AK ones are.
