Thoughts on guns......

jerry · 01-26-2008, 07:39 PM

Thoughts on Guns:

The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.

As John Steinbeck once said.

1. Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

2. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.

3. I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

4. When seconds count, the cops are just minutes away.

5. A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do carry a 45?". The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46."

6. An armed man will kill an unarmed man with monotonous regularity.

7. The old sheriff was attending an awards dinner when a lady commented on his wearing his sidearm. "Sheriff, I see you have your pistol. Are you expecting trouble?" "No Ma'am. If I were expecting trouble, I would have brought my rifle."

8. Beware the man who only has one gun. HE PROBABLY KNOWS HOW TO USE IT!!!

To this I will add my comments. I was once asked by a lady visiting if I had a gun in the house, - to which I said I did. She said "well I certainly hope it isn't loaded!" To which I said, "of course it is loaded, can't work without bullets." She then asked, "Are you that afraid of some one evil coming into your house?" My reply was, "No not at all. I am not afraid of the house catching afire either, but I have fire extinguishers around, and they are all loaded too."

My addition: An unloaded gun is just a club.

US ARMY and US MARINE CORPS Rules for Gunfighting

1. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns.

2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Your life is expensive.

3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.

4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough nor using cover correctly.

5. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. (Lateral and diagonal movement are preferred.)

6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long gun and a friend with a long gun.

7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.

8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running.

9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun.

9.5 Use a gun that works EVERY TIME.

10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

11. Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.

12. Have a plan.

13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work.

14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible.

15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.

16. Don't drop your guard.

17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees.

18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. (In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them).

19. Decide to be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.

20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

21. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

22. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.

23. Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

24. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun of which the caliber does not start with at least a ".4"

Troy · 01-26-2008, 08:06 PM

jerry when you speak, you speak well. when you quote, you quote well. fire extinguishers eh? good analogy.

Rye-man · 01-26-2008, 08:54 PM

Some real gems there. Thanks for posting.

A-10 · 01-26-2008, 09:04 PM

Humoruous, yet so very true.
I hope you don't mind if I copy your post, Jerry for later reference.

Windwalker · 01-26-2008, 09:07 PM

Lots of good advice there.But you have to use it for it to keep you alive.

Seabeescotty · 01-26-2008, 09:10 PM

I know them both, and it's always good to see them again! Your post says it all, and if everyone in this country(citizens, law-abiding)would take it to heart, we'd be the safest land on earth! Thank you for sharing.

two-70 · 01-26-2008, 09:15 PM

there is no 2nd chance for 1st place in a gun fight

MOD 70 · 01-26-2008, 09:15 PM

Loved it.Well done! It goes without saying if he grabs your long gun,give it to him.It`s pointed the wrong way anyhow. Then use your handgun.His hands are full.Would like to hear more from you.

stikbutter · 01-26-2008, 10:02 PM

That was very good Jerry I'll have to add some of them to my day to day.

trapfreek · 01-27-2008, 02:21 PM

Good job Jerry Facts we can truly LIVE by.

burd1959 · 01-27-2008, 07:34 PM

anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice now thats a motto to live by

ArkansasHunter · 01-27-2008, 07:49 PM

Right on the mark Jerry !!!...A.H

jerry · 01-27-2008, 08:00 PM

I can honestly say this one (the least glamorous) has kept me alive as an AF troop.

23. Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Seabeescotty · 01-27-2008, 08:04 PM

If it needs shooting, ventilate it!! Thanks, Jerry!

01-26-2008, 07:39 PM	#1
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,884 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Thoughts on guns...... Thoughts on Guns: The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental. As John Steinbeck once said. 1. Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. 2. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck. 3. I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy. 4. When seconds count, the cops are just minutes away. 5. A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do carry a 45?". The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." 6. An armed man will kill an unarmed man with monotonous regularity. 7. The old sheriff was attending an awards dinner when a lady commented on his wearing his sidearm. "Sheriff, I see you have your pistol. Are you expecting trouble?" "No Ma'am. If I were expecting trouble, I would have brought my rifle." 8. Beware the man who only has one gun. HE PROBABLY KNOWS HOW TO USE IT!!! To this I will add my comments. I was once asked by a lady visiting if I had a gun in the house, - to which I said I did. She said "well I certainly hope it isn't loaded!" To which I said, "of course it is loaded, can't work without bullets." She then asked, "Are you that afraid of some one evil coming into your house?" My reply was, "No not at all. I am not afraid of the house catching afire either, but I have fire extinguishers around, and they are all loaded too." My addition: An unloaded gun is just a club. US ARMY and US MARINE CORPS Rules for Gunfighting 1. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns. 2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Your life is expensive. 3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss. 4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough nor using cover correctly. 5. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. (Lateral and diagonal movement are preferred.) 6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long gun and a friend with a long gun. 7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived. 8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running. 9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun. 9.5 Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. 10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty. 11. Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose. 12. Have a plan. 13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work. 14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible. 15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours. 16. Don't drop your guard. 17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees. 18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. (In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them). 19. Decide to be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH. 20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get. 21. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. 22. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one. 23. Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation. 24. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun of which the caliber does not start with at least a ".4" __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

01-26-2008, 08:54 PM	#3
Rye-man Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 93	Some real gems there. Thanks for posting. __________________ "A free people ought to be armed." - George Washington

01-26-2008, 09:04 PM	#4
A-10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 732	Humoruous, yet so very true. I hope you don't mind if I copy your post, Jerry for later reference. __________________ If there's nothing worth dying for, there's nothing worth living for.

01-26-2008, 09:10 PM	#6
Seabeescotty Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jay, Oklahoma, God's country. Posts: 4,050 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 1	I know them both, and it's always good to see them again! Your post says it all, and if everyone in this country(citizens, law-abiding)would take it to heart, we'd be the safest land on earth! Thank you for sharing. __________________ Adapt, improvise, overcome.-Gysgt Highway, Heartbreak Ridge

01-26-2008, 09:15 PM	#7
two-70 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ponca city, oklahoma Posts: 1,778	there is no 2nd chance for 1st place in a gun fight __________________ What Would Jesus Do ????? Just Ask Him.

01-26-2008, 08:06 PM	#2
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,501 Images: 3	jerry when you speak, you speak well. when you quote, you quote well. fire extinguishers eh? good analogy.

01-26-2008, 09:07 PM	#5
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,590	Lots of good advice there.But you have to use it for it to keep you alive.

01-26-2008, 09:15 PM	#8
MOD 70 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southern B.C. Posts: 162	Loved it.Well done! It goes without saying if he grabs your long gun,give it to him.It`s pointed the wrong way anyhow. Then use your handgun.His hands are full.Would like to hear more from you. __________________ If God didn`t intend for man to eat animals he wouldn`t have made them out of meat

01-26-2008, 10:02 PM	#9
stikbutter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Keystone Hieghts FL Posts: 354	That was very good Jerry I'll have to add some of them to my day to day.

01-27-2008, 02:21 PM	#10
trapfreek Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 491	Good job Jerry Facts we can truly LIVE by.

01-27-2008, 07:34 PM	#11
burd1959 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: burton michigan Posts: 606	anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice now thats a motto to live by

01-27-2008, 07:49 PM	#12
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,710	Right on the mark Jerry !!!...A.H

01-27-2008, 08:00 PM	#13
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,884 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	I can honestly say this one (the least glamorous) has kept me alive as an AF troop. 23. Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation. __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck Last edited by jerry; 01-27-2008 at 08:05 PM.

01-27-2008, 08:04 PM	#14
Seabeescotty Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jay, Oklahoma, God's country. Posts: 4,050 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 1	If it needs shooting, ventilate it!! Thanks, Jerry! __________________ Adapt, improvise, overcome.-Gysgt Highway, Heartbreak Ridge