This is how College Kids think these days

[Bookman]

I would e-mail the article to my 81-yr-old father (Purdue 1948) but it would make him gag. He still wears a Boilermaker sweatshirt around the house and follows every game on TV.

For myself, I learned long ago to ignore almost everything a college student says. Life's easier that way.

[FadingStarlight]

I'm a college student, and looking back on the neighbors I've had over the years, I'd way rather they have dope than guns. That being said, this guy is an embarrassment to liberals. You'd think being from Purdue he'd know how to do some research about the "facts" in his article. Whadda dolt.

[GlockMeister]

Originally Posted by Bookman

I would e-mail the article to my 81-yr-old father (Purdue 1948) but it would make him gag. He still wears a Boilermaker sweatshirt around the house and follows every game on TV.

For myself, I learned long ago to ignore almost everything a college student says. Life's easier that way.

That's just it, you / we can't afford to any longer ignore this stuff. The anti-gunners get a hold of it and use it. People who are unfamiliar take it as Gods word to what is true. Please respond to it, politely. Don't overlook it and ignore it or anything else in the future. Our rights depend on it. Thanks.

G-Meister

[Seabeescotty]

The SOB's email address has been disabled. I spent an hour composing a nice letter to him, and it couldn't get through!

[Lizard]

Originally Posted by Seabeescotty

The SOB's email address has been disabled. I spent an hour composing a nice letter to him, and it couldn't get through!

Well, since he "had no problem with" his neighbor having large amounts of dope and moving it through his apartment, I think that there's a slim possibility that he might use the noxious weed himself. If so, maybe during the course of investigation, the LEO's found something in his apartment? I can only hope.

Whatever lack of information or forethought went into his article, he had the right to express it. And the people who legally carry and practice with those weapons that scare him so much are the ones who have given him that right and are the ones that will keep protecting that right for him.

It was not given by and will not be protected by, uh, . . . someone. Oh, yeah, I remember, . . . not the ones that smope doke and wo deed. Uh, I mean smode week and wee dood. Smoke deep and week do. Smoke dope and do weed.

What was I talking about? Sorry, man. Gonna go see if there's anything to eat in the kitchen, man. I think there may be two bags of stale cheetos and a jug of orange juice, man.

Geeze, I hope I don't stumble over any guns on the way there. That would be really scary, man!

[rasterman77]

Ok, Ok, the guy should have done his research but if we ( gun supporters) can be the discerning intelligent ones we should approach this much differently. We at times say such things as "pry them from my cold dead fingers" or you can have my guns but you can have the bullets first"(insinuating murder) or " I don't dial 911, I dial 1911 and let it ring 7 times" (insinuating vigilantiasm ).. all of which could be badly misinterpeted. I say these things facetiously too.. What I mean is that I would defend myself and I would not give up my guns without trying everything in my power to stop it.
What this kid may be saying is he is scared of potential violence more than potential stoners, criminals with potential killing tools scares him and wants to hide behind the police.
Instead of telling him that a criminal has the right to this rifle explaining that this kind of rifle is more than safe in legal hands would be, hopefully, effective as an opinion turning tool.

[dhermesc]

"we know that is not a license to hold exceptionally dangerous weapons"



If the constitution were followed it would mean that one wouldn't need a license.

[Seabeescotty]

If the guy with the rifle was dealing drugs, he had no right to the rifle. But then, that's the problem, isn't it? Criminals don't obey the law anyway, so any laws passed are aimed at disarming we the people, the honest lawabiding citizens who have the right to have the means to defend ourselves under the constitution of our country. Makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?

[Rave]

Let's face it,anyone handeling guns while under the influence,alcohol,drugs,what ever,may be a hazard.
The anti-gun crowd can and will seize on this to further promote their agenda.

[GlockMeister]

Originally Posted by Seabeescotty

The SOB's email address has been disabled. I spent an hour composing a nice letter to him, and it couldn't get through!

SeaBEE, It isn't down, he just got flooded with email and we probably filled it. lmfao Send it to editor@purdueexponent.org
If that is down I can get others.

And if you really want to have your voice heard, email seen, click on the contact us link from the online column and send it CC to every contact listed. lmao

G-Meister.

[mym1a]

I believe It was best put by there commie hero's these kids are what the commie higher ups would call useful idiots!fore now they serve a purpose!

[Bravo]

Being a college student, I feel the COMPLETE opposite. We are allowed to have zero weapons on campus, if you have a concealed weapons permit, your gun has to stay locked up at the police station.

I hate the feeling knowing that the police are the only ones with weapons, and while there are a lot of them on campus, the odds of them being in the right place at the right time are slim to none (see Virgina Tech).

[mym1a]

If you could afford to live off campus your rights would only be violated when you are on college grounds.

[stalebiscuit]

im a kolloge kid, and i uhh lyke thnk guns r bad and dey lyke hurt peeple

honestly most college kids are retarded, because they think they know a whole lot but in fact understand nothing about the more important things, such as humility or respect

mostly common sense they lack id say though

Originally Posted by Seabeescotty

The SOB's email address has been disabled. I spent an hour composing a nice letter to him, and it couldn't get through!

10 bucks says you werent the only on composing a well written letter of disagreement for his cognitive faculties to process and then for him to return the favor and retort with circumlocutious language so it would seem a ray of light he would refer to as logic and hope you would be blinded by what he would refer to as a mind.

ignorance is his only defense, otherwise he would be without a doubt biased as to ignore evidence

[.22hustler]

The reason this idiot, the punk editor, can't get the story straight is that he's been smoking some of that illegal pot his neihgbor has been selling him.

[Cyrano]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have allies!

The following are from the 1/29/08 Op-Ed portion of The Exponent.

The first response from other Purdue students:

Mike Westervelt (Jan. 24 column, "Assault rifle discovery raises questions for Purdue students, city") should think over what it means to live in a free society. To us, the suggestion to turn in people for doing things that are legal (and aren't harming anyone else) is totalitarian. We're referring to the firearms, not the drugs - which are illegal at present.

The possession of a firearm, no matter the type, does no more harm than a computer, kitchen knife, or book of matches. The misuse of any of these items (hacking, assault or arson, for example) is already a crime, just as assault, manslaughter and murder are already applicable to the misuse of a firearm. In fact, the discharge of a firearm within the city, even without injury, is already forbidden save for exceptions for police and self-defense (West Lafayette City Code Sec 65.30). Also, federal law already has a provision for firearms use in conjunction with drug trafficking (U.S. Code Title 18, Sec 924, Part c). Also on the topic of law, it seems Mike has misrepresented Indiana law, which has permits for the carry of pistols, not for possessing one (Indiana Code 35-47-2 and 35-47-2.5).

The idea that "good fences make good neighbors" is meant to convey the idea of not intruding on other people's lives ﾐ exactly the opposite of what Mike suggests. Additionally, his proposed solution of registration or banning goes against a state law aimed at keeping laws uniform across the state (Indiana Code 35-47-11). Lastly, Mike's belief that laws would "prevent another Virginia Tech incident" is invalid, as Virginia Tech was a "gun-free zone" at the time.


Erik Epp
Graduate student

Eric Freuchtel
Senior in the School of Technology

Christopher Dehen
Graduate student

David Wright
Senior in the College of Science

Phil McLaury
Graduate student

And the second:

Reading the commentary that Mike Westervelt wrote ignited a spark inside of me and prompted me to write this letter.

It is the person's right to own the firearm - even if it is an assault weapon. The assault weapons ban of 1994 did not keep people from owning assault weapons during that ten year period, it only kept them from buying these weapons. The question of whether a person should own a weapon like that is not a question at all - it is their Second Amendment right. And contrary to what Mike said, the Second Amendment does not rule out any weapons. There are special licenses to purchase certain firearms, but those people have the right to own assault weapons, bazookas, machine guns, etc.

The marijuana is a much bigger deal to me, because it is actually ILLEGAL, unlike owning the firearm. I live in a house just off of campus where there are at least five guns in the house at one given time. We are all qualified to have them and no one can stop us. Some people need to be more open-minded; the right to own a firearm (assault weapons included) is just as much of a right as it is to write this letter, or for the the columnist to write the article.

Firearm owners don't gripe at people about speaking their mind, but pro-gun control people sure do like to bash us.


Kyle Cross
Freshman in the College of Pharmacy


It would seem that at least some of the students at Purdue have their heads screwed on with the noses to the front!

[Lizard]

Originally Posted by Cyrano

Ladies and gentlemen, we have allies!

The following are from the 1/29/08 Op-Ed portion of The Exponent.

Excellent! Thanks for posting these responses from the Purdue students. It really makes me feel better about many of the people that are getting educations.

[PrivateSnuffy]

"Yes, the Constitution protects the right to bear arms, but we know that is not a license to hold exceptionally dangerous weapons such as bazookas, machine guns or assault weapons. As the federal government decreed in 1994, assault weapons just don't belong in our communities."



Called a Class 3 dips***

I love how the fact that they found pounds of mary-j, $3800 in cash, and all sorts of various drug paraphernalia, and the only thing he cares about is an AK-47. Obviously the kid was a drug dealer. And im 21, and i dont think like that, so leave me out of this!

[Bravo]

The penalty for carrying a concealed weapon w/ a permit on my campus (University of Maine), is an expulsion from campus. As long as you have a permit, I am pretty so no legal action can be taken against you.

I wonder, after the Virginia Tech incident, how many students here are risking their education by carrying on campus?

I pray that a few are..

[Seabeescotty]

Do I see a flicker of light at the end of the tunnel? I would hope a student values life a bit more than education, as in- what good does an education do you if you're dead?