I just watched "Sniper II" on the T.V. machine. Our hero was using a 91/30 in a contemporary setting. Even though most of the rifle was wrapped in burlap,I'd recognize that big fat round safety, the unmistakable front sight and that buttplate anywhere.
I love to see Mosins snuck into flicks. Aside from the obvious "Enemies at the Gate", do you know of other movies with Mosin porn in them?
I saw that movie a while back. Did you notice when he first picks it up, he called it a Mauser, and proclaimed it to be the best rifle the Germans ever made? I sure wish they would have payed more attention to detail. Tom Berenger doesn't know the difference between a Mauser and a Mosin? Thats just plain irritating.
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If you want to go back to 1962, a Mosin was the sniper rifle Raymond Shaw used in the original version of The Manchurian Candidate.
And while I am not sure of this, I think a Mosin M38 was used in The Godfather Part III. It's only visible for a second or two near the end of the movie, hidden under some balcony seats where the assassin disguised as a Catholic priest sets up on Michael Corleone in the opera house where he is watching a family member make his debut, but does not fire. The reason I'm not sure is the brevity of the appearance; and the fact that because the action is taking place in Rome, I think it more likely an assassin would use a Carcano. One would be easier to obtain there than a Mosin Nagant, I should think.
I think they believe every ones too ignorant to know the difference. Or maybe they're the ones too ignorant to know the difference.
Yep, most Hollywood directors and producers, being ignorant about weaponry and military things generally, DO think everyone else is as ignorant as they are. It's not just firearms, it's lots of things.
One classic example is Michael Curtiz's immortal Casablanca. Major Strasser, so addressed, does wear the correct shoulderboards and collar insignia of a Luftwaffe major. On the other hand, he is wearing jodphurs with Luftwaffe general officer's trouser stripes on them throughout the movie. In the scene where he drives to the airport in an attempt to abort Victor Lazlo's escape, he's wearing a greatcoat with the white lapels of a general officer. And in the finale in the hangar, first his greatcoat has major's shoulderboards, then it doesn't, and then it does again! It's a continuity error and not a deliberate screwup, but it's still funny.
Where the 1940s and 1950s producers used real combat footage of air battles in the movies, it gets even better. You have things like Messerschmitt Me-109s turning into Republic P-47 Thunderbolts and then into Focke-Wulf FW-190s attacking the B-17s. And you also sometimes see B-17s turn into B-24s. The only thing the fighters have in common is that they are all single engine fighters, and the bombers are all 4 engine bombers. I suppose we're lucky they don't turn into FW-200 Condors!
You can forgive the producers of Tora, Tora, Tora for having to transform AT-6 Texans into Japanese Zeros, because I think there are only two airworthy Zeros left in the world and naturally they aren't flown very often. And you can forgive Darryl Zanuck for using Skyraiders in a couple of scenes of The Longest Day to impersonate P-47s, because they are only shown in middle to long distance in low light anyway; and because even in 1964 you could count the number of airworthy Thunderbolts on the fingers of one hand. I can't forgive him for using Me-108 trainer/utility airplanes as fake Me-109s, though. First, they don't look very much alike; and second, he was shooting in Europe. He could have done what the producers of The Battle of Britain did 8 years later: borrow REAL Me-109s from the Spanish Air Force, which was still using them as advanced trainers then. He only needed two, for heaven's sake!
And in these days of CGI, there is no excuse at all for what the dimwits who produced Pearl Harbor did. Suffice it to say that P-40s are not X-Wings, and A6M3 Zero-Sens are not TIE Fighters. Would it have killed them to program the actual flight characteristics of the machines into their computers?
I know P.T. Barnum got rich two or three times by not underestimating the stupidity and gullibility of the American public, but ain't all of us stupid or as willfully ignorant as the Hollywood types seem to think we are!
Cyrano that is because they are to lazy to actually do some RESEARCH. Although, most people don't know the difference most likely. They should still do it right though.
This is a great thread with a lot of interesting points. The lack of attention to detail and the Hollywood BS is why I do not watch many movies and definitely do not watch prime time TV. I just can not stand it when someone throws a hand grenade into a building and it goes up in this huge ball of flame. 1 pound of explosive and 5 gallons of gasoline. I admit, I have never even handled a live grenade nor set off anything more powerful than a cherry bomb but I have seen people do it. And Hey, I do watch mythbusters! They did a show once where they showed the difference in a car exploding in the movies and when Ed Doyle loads her up with high explosives. Major difference.
Then I could go on about how the movie actors fire handguns and rifles. I get amazed that a Barnaby Jones can hit the bad guy from 100 yards away while the bad guy is running up a flight of stairs....with a snub nose 38!
OK, I just dated myself. LOL!
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I know its not a movie but I have seen them several times on the MASH tv series especially the episode where Hawkeye & BJ get lost and end up capturing a North Korean soldier.
Love that episode. Now that I said I don't watch prime time or any other hollywood flick, I now admit that I have never missed an episode of MASH. But, that was when I was much younger and not as...book learned.
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If I'm not mistaken the American sniper in Kelly's hero's has a Mosin Nagant.
I'm always amazed at how in movies or TV shows, revolvers, and autos. never seem to run out of bullets until they need one more round. And I love the submachine guns with 30 rd. clips that will shoot a thousand rounds. But I think my favorite dumb scene of all times has to be in Last Man Standing where Bruce Willis shoots the guy with two .45's and sends him sailing through a window and half way across the street. OK that has nothing to do with a mosin, just thought I'd mention it.
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Love that episode. Now that I said I don't watch prime time or any other hollywood flick, I now admit that I have never missed an episode of MASH. But, that was when I was much younger and not as...book learned.
M.A.S.H. fan. Tex, I knew there was something I liked about you.
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This is a great thread with a lot of interesting points. The lack of attention to detail and the Hollywood BS is why I do not watch many movies and definitely do not watch prime time TV. I just can not stand it when someone throws a hand grenade into a building and it goes up in this huge ball of flame. 1 pound of explosive and 5 gallons of gasoline. I admit, I have never even handled a live grenade nor set off anything more powerful than a cherry bomb but I have seen people do it. And Hey, I do watch mythbusters! They did a show once where they showed the difference in a car exploding in the movies and when Ed Doyle loads her up with high explosives. Major difference.
Then I could go on about how the movie actors fire handguns and rifles. I get amazed that a Barnaby Jones can hit the bad guy from 100 yards away while the bad guy is running up a flight of stairs....with a snub nose 38!
OK, I just dated myself. LOL!
Tex your getting old!!LOL,,I wonder if he could shoot a mosin that well?
Well, as Uncle Jed, he could hit they eye out of a Knat at 500 yards with that Kentucky rifle of his. I remember him talking about recochet shootin contests. In his words they would bounce their bullets off a rock before hitting the target. That was why he was so good at billiards. LOL!
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Recently watched the movie Stardust with my wife and her family... atleast I think it was Stardust. (Some fantasy movie) I thought I saw M44's that the soldiers were carrying near the end of the movie in the battle with the bears and witches and soldiers. Probably one of the only interesting things I saw in that movie.
A horror flick from the "after dark" festival. It takes place in rural russia, and is a pretty good horror movie. Obviously the guns aren't the focus, but there are one or two mosins, probably m44's.
Now... Since I apparently have a habit of accidentally finding collectors' mosins, I'm curious as to how rare a romanian mosin is.
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Cyrano,talk about paying attention to detail. I'm impressed. 
