Old 01-30-2008, 10:13 AM   #1
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Curious what an officer would say

Well in my car in the trunk i have my SKS, M44, and my new H&R Single shot Pardner. Large quantities of ammo also in the vehicle but those are in a tool box with a pad lock on it. Now if i were to be pulled over should i even tell the office i have the guns? I have no guns what so ever inside the vehicle with me and no way to get them in the trunk without hopping out and popping the trunk lid. I'm in Ohio and i am trying to find the gun laws online but am having issues. can someone point me to a good site for them?
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:40 AM   #2
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Put "Ohio firearms laws" on your search bar and you will find nra/ila site that has the laws. sam.
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:51 AM   #3
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Hmm ill have to check at home because for some reason the page doesnt seem to want to open up on the computer im on right now. What would i look for in the laws to see if carrying those guns in my trunk is illegal or the officer needs to be notified? Like i said all the ammo is locked up and the only key for the pad lock is on my car keys which would be in the ignition and also none of the guns are loaded
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nick ... local laws will tell the tale. In MOST states, as long as the ammo and guns are separate and there are no loaded guns or guns with loaded magazines in them, I can't really see a problem.

Suggestion though... you may not want to travel all over with that stuff in your trunk... it will be gone if your car gets stolen... and you will probably never recover the guns even if your car is found after the fact.

If you are having issues finding the information on-line, do it the old fashioned way, call a local PD or the State Police.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:19 AM   #5
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nick ... local laws will tell the tale. In MOST states, as long as the ammo and guns are separate and there are no loaded guns or guns with loaded magazines in them, I can't really see a problem.

Suggestion though... you may not want to travel all over with that stuff in your trunk... it will be gone if your car gets stolen... and you will probably never recover the guns even if your car is found after the fact.

If you are having issues finding the information on-line, do it the old fashioned way, call a local PD or the State Police.
In all of my experience I have never had the state police tell me much that was right.All you will get from them is some dispatchers opinion of what the law is or what they would like it to be.When you verify on the web,you find you have been lied to.If you cant get the law that way,go to the nra site. National Rifle Association - NRA Website Gateway sam.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:38 AM   #6
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Better off asking an officer you know... not the dispatcher. Even better... a local PD guy in case you can't find it yourself, which finding it yourself is the better idea... by actually printing the law and keeping it in your car too! Cover your bases brother... you don't want to lose your guns...
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:05 PM   #7
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for what it is worth, you would be perfectly legal with the exception of the SKS (assault rifle) here in NJ and our gun laws suck. Declaring any firearms is always a good idea. If the officer asks to see how they are being transported and sees that you are responsible most likely he will just go on about normal business of taking all of your money with tickets.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:23 PM   #8
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well the way i look at it the only thing that would be a truly major financial loss to me would be the Ammo. the shotgun was 100 as was the sks and the mosin was only 60 bucks. yeah i love them but like i said its not like id be losing thouhsands on guns. and only reason i keep the ammo in there is because i have it all in one locked up tool box which makes for a very heavy item to lug around. now since i have my car and they are in the trunk im not so worried but when i had my truck that was a little different storry. i had the mosin and the sks back there behind the seat and the only thing that was keeping them and the ammo seperate was a flimsy little lock on the glove box
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:56 PM   #9
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Masaad Ayoob just did a sequence on Personal Defense TV on this subject, although his thrust was on the CCW pistol at a traffic stop.

His advice was to hand your CCW permit over to Officer Pup along with your driver's license and car registration and advise him you are carrying. Keep your hands where the officer can see them and do exactly what he tells you to, slowly and in a nonthreatening way. He'll likely ask you to step out of the car. He may ask you to hand him the weapon or he may not. If the cop wants to control the weapon, let him. Chances are he'll unload it and hand it back to you, write the ticket and send you on your way after he hands back the magazine or the ammunition (if it's a revolver).

With the longarms, I would suggest advising him they are there. He should have no issues with them provided they are unloaded, out of the driver's reach and with the ammo locked up separately. I don't know how Officer Pup would react to the gun racks you see down South in many pickup trucks, but again, as long as they are not loaded and with the ammo not stored handy it shouldn't be a problem. Besides, down South the police understand about shooting and hunting.
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:07 PM   #10
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Cyrano ... most excellent advice. As for the officer pup, hopefully you don't have a newbie that will panic over a gun in the vehicle.

Be courteous and do what is asked... be sure to do so in a non-threatening manner almost to ... and if not declaring every move you make to settle the nerves of the officer. You never know the skill, intelligence or experience of the officer. Better to be careful, proactive and cautious with someone you do not know... or who does not know you.

Perception is key...
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:12 PM   #11
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Not sure on your state laws but here in NC you are in compliance, and when I pull someone over it is apreciated if someone tells me they have a firearm. of couse here in NC you can carry openly in your car so ussauly it a pistol laying on the seat ect. but you get the point check you laws out then be polite and inform any officer that may pull you over for what ever reason. it could save you some confusion later.
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:41 PM   #12
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Here in NY, as long as the guns are unloaded, you may transport them inside your car. However, I instruct my son to transport them in the locked trunk, and if possible, I have him remove the bolt, in case of a bolt action. In other cases, I'll have him open all the actions, as well as remove any mags that will remove.. My aim is to make sure there are no questions about our intentions, and to make sure the PO feels safe,(somewhat). After all, he doesn't know us...
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:54 PM   #13
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I would think as long as the fire arms are unloaded secured with ammo seperate you should be relatively safe.In NY,( upstate) you can carry a loaded pistol/revolver on your person if you have a permit.what seems interesting to me is traveling interstate?I have been told that there is a federal law where transportation of legal firearms has to be recognized by local and state agencies while traveling enroute to your destination,of course these firearms have to be unloaded and ammo secured seperately form the firearms????
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:36 AM   #14
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here in Colorado the guns can be carried in the trunk loaded or not (dont suggest a bullet in the chamber). If you have a gun in the front of the car it must be in plain view (that is if you dont have a ccw), again doesnt matter if its loaded. If my guns are in my trunk I wont say anything to the cop unless he asks. If my gun is up front he can see it in plain view, and I'll tell Leo that I have it so he doesn't freak out and shoot me. If you have your ccw hand over your permit with your license, and dont do anything to look like you might be reaching for it. The last ticket I got was coming from the gun range in my truck and my rifle was in the back of my pickup. The leo asked me why I am traveling with my rifle but that was all. Turnes out that he owns the same rifle and we talked about guns for another half hour, he was a realy nice guy. Might even go shooting with him.
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