10-23-2009, 04:50 PM
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#81 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by rondog  | I kinda wish I could get the chance to go deer hunting, never done it. Don't have a place to go, anybody to go with, or any of the necessary stuff except for a rifle. I can shoot good enough, but I wouldn't have a clue what to do next. Big dead animal? Uh, what now? Then there's the meat processing, clueless again, and I can't see paying to have it done. That kinda defeats the purpose doesn't it?
Some guys are natural hunters, and some aren't. Guess I'm not. One more experience I'll never have. I sure as hell ain't gonna go try it by myself just for the experience, but I envy those of you with freezers full of venison and elk. I'll just be over here, shooting my cans and water jugs. | There has got to be somebody around that would be willing to mentor you and teach you. I helped my younger cousin last weekend, he has shot deer before but once it was down, he was clueless what to do. So we took about 10X the amount of time necessary to do it showing him how to gut it and so on.
As for the head shot part, I trust myself enough to shoot a deer in the head with a .22 LR and have done it several times without wounding one, but I don't trust other people enough in their shooting skills so my vote is DON'T do it. As others have said, if you don't hit em just right, you WILL have a deer run off and die slowly. With the typical boiler room shot, there is more margin for error and even if you completely botch the shot, they will often lay down and die within a few hours, not days.
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10-23-2009, 06:25 PM
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#82 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by rondog | I kinda wish I could get the chance to go deer hunting, never done it. Don't have a place to go, anybody to go with, or any of the necessary stuff except for a rifle. I can shoot good enough, but I wouldn't have a clue what to do next. Big dead animal? Uh, what now? Then there's the meat processing, clueless again, and I can't see paying to have it done. That kinda defeats the purpose doesn't it?
Some guys are natural hunters, and some aren't. Guess I'm not. One more experience I'll never have. I sure as hell ain't gonna go try it by myself just for the experience, but I envy those of you with freezers full of venison and elk. I'll just be over here, shooting my cans and water jugs. | You gotta be kiddin me rondog, your in Colorado and no one to hunt with??
Come on up to Michigan and hunt anytime... or how about some CO. huntin, I am sure there has to be some one here on G&G that is close to you that would like a friend to hunt with.
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10-23-2009, 07:26 PM
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#83 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by rimfirenut | You gotta be kiddin me rondog, your in Colorado and no one to hunt with??
Come on up to Michigan and hunt anytime... or how about some CO. huntin, I am sure there has to be some one here on G&G that is close to you that would like a friend to hunt with. | Yeah, but I'm not a native, and don't know a soul here. I'm not the most social feller there is either, I'm only talkative on forums like this. Anyway, ain't no big deal. I'm not terribly fond of wild meat, and neither the wife nor grandson would touch it, so what would I do with it anyway? Meat from the market is lots cheaper anyway, when you figure in all the costs involved with hunting. And I eat too much red meat to begin with.
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10-23-2009, 07:32 PM
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#84 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by rondog | Yeah, but I'm not a native, and don't know a soul here. I'm not the most social feller there is either, I'm only talkative on forums like this. Anyway, ain't no big deal. I'm not terribly fond of wild meat, and neither the wife nor grandson would touch it, so what would I do with it anyway? Meat from the market is lots cheaper anyway, when you figure in all the costs involved with hunting. And I eat too much red meat to begin with. | you were doing fine 'til that last sentence. Game meat is much better (heathier) for you than store bought stuff.
but, you don't have to be a hunter to enjoy the outdoors and shooting sports. enjoy!
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10-23-2009, 08:35 PM
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#85 | | Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by oklahoma hunter | first of all this is my opinion ......second of all 22 mags are legal in some states like Louisiana (i never said anything about using them in Oklahoma..........and finally i would appreciate it if you didnt call me out by saying i had no place in this forum.......and by the way im as ethical as any other hunter out there....and probally more ethical than most of the hunters in choctaw county(im a push county boy myself) | Well consider yourself called out because it is illegal to use any rim fire to hunt deer with in louisana and any other state that i know of and i stand by my statment if you are using a 22mag to hunt deer you are an illegal and unethical hunter and do not belong on this forum peroid.
Steve
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10-23-2009, 08:35 PM
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#86 | | Firearm Zealot
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but, you don't have to be a hunter to enjoy the outdoors and shooting sports. enjoy!
| Which is why I'm collecting guns and ammo, and restoring an old Willys Jeep! One o' these days, I'll be roaming all over these Colorado mountains in my Jeep, with a couple of popguns along for entertainment.
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10-23-2009, 09:28 PM
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#87 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by oklahoma hunter | first of all this is my opinion ......second of all 22 mags are legal in some states like Louisiana (i never said anything about using them in Oklahoma..........and finally i would appreciate it if you didnt call me out by saying i had no place in this forum.......and by the way im as ethical as any other hunter out there....and probally more ethical than most of the hunters in choctaw county(im a push county boy myself) | .22 mag? Which brand spotlight do you prefer?
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10-23-2009, 09:44 PM
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#88 | | Firearm Aficionado
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A lot of folks who don't like game just haven't had it prepared right. In my opinion, (and I been eatin' my whole life :-) venison, or elk chili way beats beef chili. Venison summer sausage with cheese and crackers is one of the best field lunches a feller can have when he's fishing or bird hunting. Venison, or elk stew. Don't get me started on backstrap and tenderloin.
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10-23-2009, 09:50 PM
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#89 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Rondog, My dad was a bird hunter, but he and I never went deer hunting together. So when I killed my first deer I had talked to some folks, but mainly read up on it, and when I went to take that deer apart after it was down all the parts were right there where the books said they'd be, and it wasn't that hard. Same with my first elk. The books were even right about the fun bein' over once a critter that big was down :-)
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10-23-2009, 09:57 PM
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#90 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by G. Green | A lot of folks who don't like game just haven't had it prepared right. In my opinion, (and I been eatin' my whole life :-) venison, or elk chili way beats beef chili. Venison summer sausage with cheese and crackers is one of the best field lunches a feller can have when he's fishing or bird hunting. Venison, or elk stew. Don't get me started on backstrap and tenderloin. | Nothin better than some backstraps wrapped in bacon, seasoned to taste and cooked over the open fire...  Dang, I'm makin myself hungry...
One thing good about a head shot is no meat wasted and an instant kill...
Though I do not practice this method I think it is to risky, I have seen several deer with no jaw, starving to death and a mere shadow of what they used to be. I am a front shoulder shooter..
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10-23-2009, 10:33 PM
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#91 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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If I had to choose whether to never eat beef again or never eat venison/elk again, no contest wild game is the best, in fact, just got done eating an elk roast for dinner and tomorrow night...chicken fried elk steaks or maybe a venison burger. Yum.
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10-25-2009, 10:37 PM
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#92 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by sbowers5 | Well consider yourself called out because it is illegal to use any rim fire to hunt deer with in louisana and any other state that i know of and i stand by my statment if you are using a 22mag to hunt deer you are an illegal and unethical hunter and do not belong on this forum peroid.
Steve | it is legal to hunt with centerfire rifles in louisiana if you dont believe me here is a website with the regulations ....its on page 8 (you can not hunt with anything smaller than a .22 centerfire, is the termanology i believe they use) Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries
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10-26-2009, 12:10 AM
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#93 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by oklahoma hunter it is legal to hunt with centerfire rifles in louisiana if you dont believe me here is a website with the regulations ....its on page 8 (you can not hunt with anything smaller than a .22 centerfire, is the termanology i believe they use) Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries | "second of all 22 mags are legal in some states like Louisiana " oklahoma hunter
"illegal to hunt or shoot deer with smaller than 22 caliber CENTER FIRE..." LA regs
22Mag normally refers to a rim-fire, which is illegal. However, the wording of the regulation could be better but 22 rim-fire rounds are normally considered smaller than 22 center-fire. Maybe you meant some other 22 center-fire mag??????
I'm trying to head off a flame war here. Could just be a simple mis-statement.
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10-26-2009, 12:30 AM
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#94 | | Firearm Zealot
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A .22mag is a RIMFIRE...same as .22lr. .22 CENTERFIRE would be a .223 or 22/250 and similar.
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