Gotta love living in the south

[SPOCAHP ANAR]

Went to the schoo'ls science fair tonight and there was a project that was labled: What Makes a Gun Work?

It featured diagrams of the AR-15.

No cops, no kid being hauled to a shrink after being kicked out of school. Gotta love being in the south.

[Rave]

Sure beats the hysterical shreiking of the antis!

[Coeloptera]

Fun and informative!

Hey, a lot of science goes into firearms: engineering, chemistry, physics, ergonomics, and metallurgy at least.

- Coeloptera

[Seabeescotty]

I hate to think what would have happened in one of those other states. Expulsion, at the very least, and being labeled a terrorist at the worst. I'm glad to hear some of our children are growing up under the freedom they were guarenteed!

[Bigdaveaz]

Originally Posted by Seabeescotty

I hate to think what would have happened in one of those other states. Expulsion, at the very least, and being labeled a terrorist at the worst. I'm glad to hear some of our children are growing up under the freedom they were guarenteed!

I knew there was a reason I liked you!

[Seabeescotty]

Thank you, sir! I have been trying to stay on my best behavior. I just have a problem when a first or second grade student gets expelled for an almost unrecognizable drawing of a firearm! It's beyond me how a teacher can say that the child was inciting terrorist activity. That teacher, in my opinion, needs to go back to remedial teaching school!!

[Windwalker]

The schools no tolerance gun policies were designed by anti-gunners and passed by idiots trying to be politically correct. We need to elect some school board that have the intestinal fortitude(GUTS) to stand up and say this is wrong. Guns don't belong in the hands of children at school and are properly banned but a picture of a gun or little johnny pointing his finger and saying bang does not mean that we have a terrorist uprising beginning. How could anyone believe that the punishment for a picture of a gun or pointing your finger could justify the same punishment as bringing a gun to school. Wake up people! Where is your sense of fairness and justice? Make the schools deal fairly with our children.

[Seabeescotty]

I'm with you, Windwalker!!!

[ArkansasHunter]

You know it does'nt seem long a go, that school kids would get together after school. Grab there shotguns and set off on foot or there bikes to get to the nearest woods and go hunting or shooting.
I mean walk through the middle of town and know one hardly noticed. I did it, but now being older It does seem like a risk but it was exceptable in the south back then.

[SKS NOOB]

It was. Too many "City folk" wantin what us poor country folk have and that's room to breath and peace and quiet. I was born 'n raised in Alabama. As of late, if I were still living there, I would be kind of scared to even practice shooting in my own back woods with all the people building houses back where there was pasture and forest.....and we as an old fashioned society are letting their "modern" beliefs fliter in.

[TXplt]

Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

You know it does'nt seem long a go, that school kids would get together after school. Grab there shotguns and set off on foot or there bikes to get to the nearest woods and go hunting or shooting.
I mean walk through the middle of town and know one hardly noticed. I did it, but now being older It does seem like a risk but it was exceptable in the south back then.

I used to do this when I was kid (.22's more than shotguns, though). I hope my son has the freedom to do the same when he is older.

[GlockMeister]

I agree with you on that A.H. The main problem anymore, in the NORTH, anyhow, is either that land we all use to go hunting or shooting on has either all been purchased by some realty or construction group to put homes,condos,apartments or strip malls on and the rest was purchased with our tax money by the forest preserve for same or for the so-called "WETLANDS PROJECT". So the end result is, no more land left to freely hunt or shoot on anyhow. And if you did find some land, then there's this next hurtle to climb;
The fact that many cities,counties,towns and villages have written into their city or county codes and ordinances, that now makes it illegal to fire a gun within their county, city,town or village limits.
So I suppose if it came down to self defense with a gun, not only could you possibly in this day and age be found guilty of violating the attackers human rights, and while the victims human rights seem to be forgotten, but, you can end up in violation of those codes and or ordinances and end up in violation and or arrested instead of or with the "accused attacker" for firing a gun within those same aforementioned boundary lines or city limits.

So they've not only made it difficult to defend yourself for fear of legal repercussions, but you can't even go and enjoy the outdoors today the same as one use to.

As for maybe they were more exceptable of it in the south, I think you are also correct there. But it would also seem that in this day and age, the owners of the land, anywhere are more in fear of being held liable for damages for just allowing someone to shoot or hunt on their land. Even with a pellet gun.

I say this because when I was a teenager, we would and could drive to or walk up to farmers or owners of land, asking to hunt or shoot and usually be allowed to. Now, you don't even have to waste the gas or energy to do so because the answer is so clear without even having to ask.

And spocahp, as for having a science project such as that in a school anywhere but the south, you are dead on in the fact the child would get suspended or expelled due to the zero tolerance policy. I don't even think they give out book reports for fear they'll do them on wars anymore even. Hell, I don't even think they teach about wars in history anymore. They may skim over some important times in our countries history, like the bombing of Pearl Harbor or something. But, I truly believe this whole politically correct thing has even affected the way they teach the kids in schools in this day and age, let alone deter them from such projects.

G-Meister

[ezearln]

I can recall as a young boy toting a rifle through the village and finding my way into the brush in pursuit of a cottontail or two and being passed by sherrifs deputies who waved and went by, one or two on occasion would even stop and ask if I'd had any luck. Doubt I'd let a youngun do that today for fear he'd get hisself shot or arrested for some darned gun free rule or such.

[GlockMeister]

Originally Posted by ezearln

I can recall as a young boy toting a rifle through the village and finding my way into the brush in pursuit of a cottontail or two and being passed by sherrifs deputies who waved and went by, one or two on occasion would even stop and ask if I'd had any luck. Doubt I'd let a youngun do that today for fear he'd get hisself shot or arrested for some darned gun free rule or such.

You got that right eze. When I take the pellet gun and pellets into the back yard to teach and watch my son shoot, I also make sure to take the police scanner so that if and or when they get called about us, so if I know they are indeed on there way here, and by the time they get here, it's all put away.
Then, I try to be out front so if they do show up, they aren't coming out of their squads with guns already drawn because they see me out front empty handed. Because the one that called the complaint in, just said some guy with a gun in his yard, NOT some father is in his own yard or some father on his own property "is teaching" his son how to handle and shoot a firearm properly and safely with responsibility.

These days anyone sees someone with a gun, the first thing is fear, the second is get away as fast as possible and the third is to call 911 screaming they saw a man with a gun.

G-Meister

[ArkansasHunter]

Man that was a lot of trust our parents had LOL Where I live you still see young folks go by in a pack on there 4 wheelers to go hunting or shooting.
I have to be honest here and say many times as they FLEW by I would mumble to my self...please be careful or ask the lord to watch over them.
Back in the 80's a nephew of mine and a friend went hunting together, dark came and they were makeing there way out of the woods.
The young man following my nephew slipped and his shotgun went off and blew half of my nephews right leg off above his knee, they were 15 to 16 years old.
As you would expect some folks could'nt beleive they let there children go off with loaded guns.
Both these boys were brought up with guns in the house and started hunting after they learned to walk (sat on Deer stands with there fathers ect.)
This was a bad accident to say the least, But I ask how often does something like this happen ?
Not very often.
It was very hard letting my son go to the woods by himself with a gun when he was around 16, but I did and he made it home safely.
A.H

[iflylow74]

Last year, my son got in trouble for drawing a PICTURE of a bomb shelter because it had the word bomb on it!

[Big Dog]

It's all part of the drive to re-educate the young to percieve ANYTHING weapon-related as bad or evil. PBS runs an add, where a woman is telling kids a story - a little girl threatened by - The 'GUNNY-WOLF'! So, the kid's minds will associate GUN with BAD. No wonder so many young people these days think only soldiers and cops should have guns, and anyone else having them is a criminal. It's what they are being taught.
We built BP pistol kits in metal shop in our Florida high school. Bet THAT wouldn't fly now!! Nor toting a .22 rifle down the road to the squirrel woods (a non-hunting area now!), or fishing for crawdads in the creek behind school. Well, that creek is GONE, replaced with an urban housing development.

Ah, PROGRESS.

[Coeloptera]

What's really sad is how quickly the zero tolerance idiocy happened. I'm only 32, and when I was in High School a scant 17 years ago, the area out back of my school in Las Vegas was undeveloped desert. We'd go out and roll 300lbs rocks down hills and catch tarantulas and the occasional sidewinder hatchling would slither its way onto the basketball courts every so. Now, the office i'm sitting in right now is built on some of that land (I work surprisingly close to my old high school).

A friend and I would go out into the desert with some of his guns every so on the weekends and shoot up old appliances. We could write violent stories in English classes so long as they were good, had correct grammar, and followed the lesson plan. Some kid wrote an interesting story about someone undergoing a psychological breakdown that ended with the main character smashing someone's head apart on a sidewalk...it was well-written and he got a good grade and encouragement from the teacher. Now, he'd get a suspension and counseling at the very least. I myself wrote an amusing "breakup letter" for an assignment that mentioned drug use, assault, sexuality infidelity, and theft. Got an "A" on that one too, because I followed the format set out in the assignment.

It bothers me that at my age, this isn't some subjective "in my day" complaining, but an objective, observable decline in thought and standards in about 15 years.

I mean...rubber mats on the playground?!

- Coeloptera

[ezearln]

Oddly enough y'all they is a country song that laments just this! We have allowed too many of the "Elite" to proscribe what is proper thinking and behavior. Unfortunately that seems to be severely lacking in common sense, and the trickle down to our children requires us as parents and grandparents to correct. Political Correctness isn't correct, the notion that all school children deserve and are entitled to "self-esteem" is also false as is the myth of "No Child Left Behind". Yet in this era of the herd following the lemming to their demise. Too many of us snort in disgust and utter not another sound. I guess what I am trying to say is level headed rational people need to stand up and say enough of this malarky and get back to common sense solutions to what we want to change or improve or restore. Some children ARE going to be left behind for a wide variety of reasons very few of which have a damned thing to do with their school or teachers! That does not mean we abandon them, we do whatever we can to bring them up to speed. No person child or adult is entitled to self esteem or respect. Those things are earned not bestowed, when a person takes action, accomplishes a task or performs a service well, then is the time for self esteem. When a person serves his or her community. lives a good life, raises their children to be good citizens and live their lives by a moral compass that defines their actions then they deserve and have earned respect. These things are not entitlements they are however the results of self improvement, character and good citizenship!
Now that doesn't mean that we need to go back to an era of hate, discrimination or intolerance. What it does mean is common sense and core values need to predominate any and all of our daily lives and decisions and interactions with others.

[TXplt]

It's no time to give up......We control a great portion of our own destiny.