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Old 06-29-2008, 01:18 AM   #61
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Seriously Do they look mean???
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Old 06-29-2008, 01:48 AM   #62
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Ryder08, the bottom pic looks just like my brothers' dog Baby. I'd hate to see anyone go throught the pain of losing a beloved pet, but I'd bet it'd be 1000 times worse to lose a child to that pet. I've seen a whole lot of posts on this thread where folks are blaming the behaviour of the dog on the owners. Obviously, none of you have seen this cute little "trait" rear its' ugly head. We just had another local child killed by a pit ( I know it's not the P.C. term and there are several different breeds, my brother had an AKC Staffordshire). This is a tough situation, I don't advocate eliminating a comlpete breed of any animal, but at the same time, we're losing a lot of kids because of them. I'm tired of hearing "the owner trained them to kill\the owner abused them, B.S.-I've seen it with my own eyes and knew the dog in question for almost seven years. She jumped the fence and killed two other dogs for no other reason than she wanted to, and NO ONE was going to stop her. My brother cried like a baby when they put her down, but so did the lady who owned the toy poodles-she was lucky she didn't join them.
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Old 08-05-2008, 10:33 AM   #63
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i absolutely agree with you.
i also own a pitbull.
he is like my baby.
pit bulls are NOT bad dogs.
it all depends on how they are raised.
and how bad or good the owner treats them.
it's not the dogs fault that some morons raise them to fight.
that is why some become vicious.
it is not just the breed in general!
i'd rather move out of tennessee then get rid of my dog.
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Old 08-05-2008, 10:51 AM   #64
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I don't understand how gun activists who proclaim "it is the owner, not the gun, that harms people" can defend the prosecution of a breed, rather than hold its owner responsible.

I very much expected something different around here.
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:40 PM   #65
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You should be able to be "Grandfathered" in. If not, I would move. Or else challenge the law. Maybe it will only be in the city or urban areas where it seems you are not. When I moved back to Colorado from Vegas I had a real hard time finding anyone that would rent a house to me with my German Shepherd. I was glad to buy my house and not have to worry about it. Even though he died last year, we still have my woman's German Shepherd (I knew she was the right woman with her choice of dog). I would never give up my German Shepherds. I hope to buy another GS puppy sometime soon. My dogs are part of my family and will always be. I won't live anywhere that discriminates against my family members...
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Old 08-05-2008, 02:08 PM   #66
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Unfortunately Bob you own dogs that are a favorite among white trash, black trash etc. and usually those people almost always make their dogs mean. The people that I know that own or have owned pits have nice lovable pets like yours but now because of the maulings and killings, pit owners are paying the price for others irresponsibility.
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Old 08-05-2008, 02:12 PM   #67
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Unfortunately Bob you own dogs that are a favorite among white trash, black trash etc. and usually those people almost always make their dogs mean. The people that I know that own or have owned pits have nice lovable pets like yours but now because of the maulings and killings, pit owners are paying the price for others irresponsibility.
hmmm... doesn't that sound familiar...ahem**gangsters abusing gun rights and the rest of us suffer**cough cough.
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Old 08-05-2008, 02:43 PM   #68
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It's not always the owners that ruin a dog. My brother has a lab that was the sweetest puppy you'd ever seen, just a darling. It was loved and babied just like a child, went everywhere with him, and was very obedient. Then, he took it to a "training class", and the dog trainer traumatized it. Now, the dog can't be trusted around anyone other than his immediate family, it'll lash out and bite with no provocation. It's a real shame, and my brother is heartbroken over it. He really loves that dog, but he's scared to death it'll hurt someone.
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:14 PM   #69
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My sister has two pits, they are some of the nicest dogs I have ever "met". As the OP said it's a ownership thing. I hate to see Tennessee taking this kind of liberal tack. It was my full intention to move to Tenn until recently reading a few things that have been going on there. Once again, fear trumps reality and government grows larger. At the risk of being political I'll shut up now.

Ryder, your pups are adorable.

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Old 08-05-2008, 04:27 PM   #70
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I am for eliminating Pit Bulls as they have proven to be dangerous animals. I have had to shoot one of these in the past because of a potential attack. Now that I am a parent I will not let my son around one of these unpredictable animals
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Pure garbage.
Roh Roh...

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Old 08-05-2008, 06:33 PM   #72
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Cocker Spaniels have got the worst "bite record" in the United States. The new "Killer" breed is called Presa Canarios.

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Old 08-05-2008, 06:38 PM   #73
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BB I sure wouldn't want to meet up with that in a dark alley.
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Old 08-05-2008, 07:17 PM   #74
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Interesting...never heard of these (tsk, too many breeds to keep track of). Looks like it has to have some Mastiff in it, the flews are the same shape, so's the dome. I checked, and they're not "new", apparently breed's been around since the 1700s, revived in the 1970s.

Interesting breed info. One of only 4 breeds without a DNA profile. Guard and fighting dogs, makes sense.

Oh, and rondog, if it's really important, havs your brother considered a trainer specializing in "deprogramming" unwanted behaviors? Some aggression is potentially fixable, especially if you know the source.

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Old 08-05-2008, 07:23 PM   #75
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It's a 128 lb. "Pit Bull" on steroids! This dog is bread for two purposes. To guard and to kill! They would give a black bear all it could handle! With this being said, I would own one in a heartbeat. I love dogs, all breads! I'm sure my Presa would be as big a wuss as my two "pits". I assure all readers of this post that my two would lick you to death and truly believe you came over to see and play with them. They don't have a clue as to what they are capable of and they are nothing more than overgrown "lap dogs"........ For some odd reason, dogs like me. I have only been attacked three times by dogs and none were "pits". One was an English Bulldog and the other two were mutts. To outlaw a bread of dog is asinine. I can think of all kinds of "pets" that are as dangerous or more capable of killing a human than a damn dog. People forget that dogs are man's best friend and that they are truly domesticated. Pit Bulls love people and desire/need constant love and attention. My little female, Skyy, is laying next to me as I type. She's my "baby girl" that almost died from Parvo a couple weeks ago. She lets me know when it's time to go to bed and she wakes me up at 0500 every morning. Ice, my big male, doesn't keep track of what time it is or if my azz should be in bed. Dogs can sense love, fear, aggression, and sadness. Never discount a dog as a mangy mutt. I've heard or read about dogs being found, dead, on top of their owner's grave in a cemetery. This is true love and all they want in return is companionship, water, and food. Anyone can own a dog and anyone over 12 can be a mother or father. It's how you deal with your responsibilities that determine how your dog or child grows up.
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Interesting...never heard of these (tsk, too many breeds to keep track of). Looks like it has to have some Mastiff in it, the flews are the same shape, so's the dome. I checked, and they're not "new", apparently breed's been around since the 1700s, revived in the 1970s.

Interesting breed info. One of only 4 breeds without a DNA profile. Guard and fighting dogs, makes sense.

Oh, and rondog, if it's really important, havs your brother considered a trainer specializing in "deprogramming" unwanted behaviors? Some aggression is potentially fixable, especially if you know the source.

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I'm sure you've heard of this breed. The killing of a young woman in San Fransisco back in 2006 was "National News".
San Francisco woman killed in attack by dogs - News
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Yep, I remember the story well. Several news sources reported (incorrectly) that they were pit bulls.
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Old 08-05-2008, 08:37 PM   #78
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Yep, I remember the story well. Several news sources reported (incorrectly) that they were pit bulls.
Hell, ...... to listen to the media, Pit's have killed more folks than Cecil B. Demills! They get a bad rap because any mutt that kills is called a "Pit Bull"! My two are the most loving dogs I've ever owned and they love children. The media has done quite an efficient job of demonizing this breed. It's a true shame. In the late 1800's to the early 1900's, this was the most popular breed of dog because of their devotion and love for family members. How times change........
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sorry Im just lazy and dont want to read though the last four pages, I came to this disgussion late.

The state wont grandfather in already owned dogs? Or do all current pit bull owners have to move out?
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sorry Im just lazy and dont want to read though the last four pages, I came to this disgussion late.

The state wont grandfather in already owned dogs? Or do all current pit bull owners have to move out?
I moved to Mississippi. It's no longer an issue for me. I'm sure they would have required your dog be spayed or neutered if you owned them prior to the law going into effect. It's an old thread that has been revisited and I decided to key in since it's my thread. If bears acted the way my two dogs do, I'd own two of them, too. I love animals.......
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