[SwedeSteve]

I would have to agree Bravo. I watched 2 episodes and quit. Have not seen the other.

[mos19k]

If you go to youtube you can see how he got his house completely off the grid. It's a very informative show and you also get a bit of insight to the type of man he his. This is the first part.

YouTube - vandwelleruk les stroud off the grid

YouTube - vandwelleruk les stroud off the grid

[RMTactical]

It's a TV show. Watch it for entertainment, that is all.

As for Bear himself, I can't help but like him. Yes, he takes many unnecessary risks, but he is a thrill seeker. That is the reason he climbed Mt Everest, joined the SAS, paraglides at 20K feet, etc...

I also think it is important to note that in survival situations, he is simply doing what HE would do in that particular situation. People are ultimately responsible for their own actions and should not do something just because someone on TV did it...

[sunwheel29]

Les Stroud is a MORON.
I forgot more about wilderness survival than he ever learned.
And I learned it in the Boy Scouts for crying out loud....
Stroud will get himself killed before somebody dies following his goofy example...
Couple of months ago, he was on the aptly named boob tube saying, "Some experts say you shouldn't do this, but I disagree" vis a vis hypothermia. Yep, you guessed it. He almost died of hypothermia.
My favorite example if this JACK@$$'s stupidity is the episode where he is wandering around the woods whining about starving and there was a gawdang armadillo in his damn camp, eating the scrub brush he was trying to get by on.
Instead of making a spear and killing the critter for some much needed protien, he darn near starved to death in a wilderness full of wild game.
Unbeleivable.
Who did he blow to get on tee vee?
His show should be called "Endure Man" because I have noticed its based on how many days Les can endure in the woods by hisself before somebody comes to rescue him.
What intelligent adult gives a squat about how long this moron can endure the elements while avoiding feeding himself?
If/when he dies, its just natural selection in action.
Couldn't Discovery Channel have found Tom Brown Jr. and given HIM a tee vee show instead of this retard? I repeat, who did he blow to get a tee vee deal?
Wannabes can whiz and moan about Bear Grylls all they want, but Man Vs Wild is the better show. You have an intelligent host who demonstrates real life hunting and surviving skills, instead of some jack@$$ wandering around with a camera starving in the land of plenty because he don't wanna hurt no fluffy bunny.
I would rather see an EXPERT put on a demonstration of survival skills that can come in useful, as I would to see some retard who was not hugged enough as a child point a camera at himself and say, "Hey, look at me!"
Both of these shows came out of an earlier show that featured a military trainer who went into the back country and showed you basic survival skills. Hopefully, when a bear has Les and his battery pack for dinner that guy will get Stroud's slot.

[larmus]

we are talking about the same bear grylls who not to long ago got stung by a bee in the middle of his forehead and swelled up like a balloon and looked to be on the verge of going in to anafalactic shock? i was just checking.

[sunwheel29]

And the same Les Stroud who took off his clothing in sub-zero arctic weather to do calisthenics then sat around and whined because his sweat froze to his body and his clothing and he started going into hypothermia.

Anybody can get stung by a bee.

Not everybody is dumb enough to point a camera at their face and say, "A lot of survival books say you shouldn'd do this, but I disagree" then 15 minutes later are whimpering because they didn't take the EXPERTS advice.

The only avoidabe pure dumb mistake I have caught so far on Man Vs Wild was when Bear drank some river water in the Amazon without boiling it first and got the squirts.
Compare that to say, three times an episode catching the ole Les Meister doing something so staggeringly stupid it nearly defies beleif....

[JMcDonald]

Overall, Bear Grylls's show is a more dangerous "teacher." He basically gives the impression that, when lost, you have to hoof it in any direction to find safety. That sometimes means he does really crazy stuff, like jump 20ft into a river so he can float down it faster than walking, and almost end up drowning, or slide a hundred feet down a gravel slope to "save time," (even though realistically most people would end up injured and helpless if they tried that). If Stroud's only fault is that he tends to be much more reserved and calm, then I still think he is sending a better message.

Though, both of the shows are driven largely by marketing. I remember reading an interview of Stroud and he said 99% of the time he would make his way to some nearby safe(r) area, and stay put until he was found. However, in his show he is often walking for miles to find safety. As the same time, they probably hired Bear because he is a crazy thrill seeker. I really doubt in a real survival situation he would do the things he displays, but the producers surely knew that the show would do better if he acted like a crazy Frat guy on a camping trip.

As far as the shows go, I think Stroud, or at least his show, sends a better message to your average viewer about survival - that it is overall best to be cautious and deliberate, rather than running around and rolling down mountains and stuff. However, as far as individuals go, Bear PROBABLY would fare better on his own, specifically because he knows how to better get passed obstacles and emergencies, and is in better shape.

[nathangdad]

than anything else. Look at him. He remains too well nourished and has too good a complextion to really be roughing it in the wild. If he looked like burnt shoe leather and his ribs were sticking out I would be more inclined to believe he really "survived".

Let's face it - a lot of television is based on fantasy and this one is that you, too, can make it in the wild based on his hints and camera set ups.

[larmus]

Quote:       Originally Posted by sunwheel29

And the same Les Stroud who took off his clothing in sub-zero arctic weather to do calisthenics then sat around and whined because his sweat froze to his body and his clothing and he started going into hypothermia. Anybody can get stung by a bee. Not everybody is dumb enough to point a camera at their face and say, "A lot of survival books say you shouldn'd do this, but I disagree" then 15 minutes later are whimpering because they didn't take the EXPERTS advice. The only avoidabe pure dumb mistake I have caught so far on Man Vs Wild was when Bear drank some river water in the Amazon without boiling it first and got the squirts. Compare that to say, three times an episode catching the ole Les Meister doing something so staggeringly stupid it nearly defies beleif....

dude i was just asking a question. i cought a glimpse of that particuler show and thats what i observed and saw. dont jump on my back for an observation of something. i dont watch either of them, i was mearly surfing channels and saw he was dealing with bees and so i watched that whole part. so please dont get offended by a question.

[IronWill.]

I really prefer Les, Bear is well, a tool. I remember Les was on a Canadian television show being interviewed and the fellow asked him what his scariest moment was, Les' response was when he was being stalked by a jaguar while doing the African episode.


I'd be terrified :P

[IronWill.]

Quote:       Originally Posted by sunwheel29

Les Stroud is a MORON. I forgot more about wilderness survival than he ever learned. And I learned it in the Boy Scouts for crying out loud.... Stroud will get himself killed before somebody dies following his goofy example... Couple of months ago, he was on the aptly named boob tube saying, "Some experts say you shouldn't do this, but I disagree" vis a vis hypothermia. Yep, you guessed it. He almost died of hypothermia. My favorite example if this JACK@$$'s stupidity is the episode where he is wandering around the woods whining about starving and there was a gawdang armadillo in his damn camp, eating the scrub brush he was trying to get by on. Instead of making a spear and killing the critter for some much needed protien, he darn near starved to death in a wilderness full of wild game. Unbeleivable. Who did he blow to get on tee vee? His show should be called "Endure Man" because I have noticed its based on how many days Les can endure in the woods by hisself before somebody comes to rescue him. What intelligent adult gives a squat about how long this moron can endure the elements while avoiding feeding himself? If/when he dies, its just natural selection in action. Couldn't Discovery Channel have found Tom Brown Jr. and given HIM a tee vee show instead of this retard? I repeat, who did he blow to get a tee vee deal? Wannabes can whiz and moan about Bear Grylls all they want, but Man Vs Wild is the better show. You have an intelligent host who demonstrates real life hunting and surviving skills, instead of some jack@$$ wandering around with a camera starving in the land of plenty because he don't wanna hurt no fluffy bunny. I would rather see an EXPERT put on a demonstration of survival skills that can come in useful, as I would to see some retard who was not hugged enough as a child point a camera at himself and say, "Hey, look at me!" Both of these shows came out of an earlier show that featured a military trainer who went into the back country and showed you basic survival skills. Hopefully, when a bear has Les and his battery pack for dinner that guy will get Stroud's slot.

Ladies and gentlemen ; I present you Bear Grylls!

[JMcDonald]

Oh, and I forgot to post this video:

YouTube - Bear Grylls is a Fake

YouTube - Bear Grylls is a Fake

[sunwheel29]

All it took was three episodes of "Survivorman" to prove to me that Les Stroud wouldn't survive three weeks in the wilderness.

His whining about the armadillo invading his camp and eating his weeds was the nail in the coffin.
I would have eaten the armadillo and wiped my backside with the weeds.

[e3mrk]

I think the Guy is nuts.
There is no way in H-ll I would ever even touch some of the stuff He eats.
The Circus used to call Them Geek's.

[Watson 11B]

I am a bear fan yea he might not be actually surviving but neither is les stroud he only goes out a week thats nothing there was a 70 something year old lady got lost in the woods of oregon or washington survived for 2. and i hate how he always complains i havent eaten for 3 days and im to tired to get food. bs i couldsurvive in the woods for a week and not no anything just chew on sticks and cook my shoes like old georgy boy did a long ass time ago. my favorite is when les tried to light a fire by removing the bullet from the caseing to make a blank, then he tried to start the fire with the blank lol. lets face it if you were really surviving you wouldnt being caring a camera or be on the recieving end in less maybe it was the truman show

[22-rimfire]

I call Stroud the "starving man". It is tough to survive in the wilderness and they pick some pretty hostile areas for the show. Bear.... I like to watch him even though I know he does some stupid stuff and so forth. I guess you know Bear got hurt in Antarctica and is or was in the hospital.

[sell33]

Quote:       Originally Posted by mos19k

If you go to youtube you can see how he got his house completely off the grid. It's a very informative show and you also get a bit of insight to the type of man he his. This is the first part. YouTube - vandwelleruk les stroud off the grid

Dangit im gettin into these videos and im supposed to be doing homework! lol

And yes i like Les better

[collin1997]

i like les

[rondog]

I bet either one of 'em has LOTS more money than most of us, and ain't that what those shows and "actors" are about? Making big bucks? Sure they're hokey, but they're making a damn good living!

I mean, those shows aren't meant to be instructional, they're just entertainment, but there's folks that will believe anything. Of course, there's probably people out there that believe the cast on "Lost" are really stranded castaways whose hair never grows.

[larmus]

ill agree to that rondog a free ride to the middle of nowhere and getting paid to have fun... must be nice