Frst off, my heart and prayers go out to those injured or killed from this incident. With that said,
I guess a car ran into a crowd of people in Md. They should ban some car models and they should call for better or more car control laws.
B.S. Maybe they should ban certain types of guns too???????? Don't fall into that trap GlockMeister, you're better than that! If we ban everything that could cause us harm, what tools do we have left?
B.S. Maybe they should ban certain types of guns too???????? Don't fall into that trap GlockMeister, you're better than that! If we ban everything that could cause us harm, what tools do we have left?
I didn't mean they should ban guns B.B, I was playing along with their hysteria and trying to point out how stupid they sound and are if they think bans or more laws or controls will stop the senseless killings. The only thing that will stop it is allowing people to protect themselves.
Trust me, I have not nor will I ever fall for the B.S.
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Last edited by GlockMeister; 02-16-2008 at 06:30 PM.
And that's the truth TX. And one point I tried to make buy saying they need to call for more and better car control laws. I intended no disrespect to those that were killed by the car.
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Last edited by GlockMeister; 02-16-2008 at 06:39 PM.
lol I know that TX, just wanted to let you know I was glad to see you saw I meant none either.
Felt I should add, I just heard on the news, this accident was caused from people "drag racing" which by the way folks, there are laws against and is illegal. Yet they still do it.
I wonder if they'll see the connection between that and gun laws, that it isn't the laws or the instruments, but the individuals that "MISUSE" them?
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Last edited by GlockMeister; 02-16-2008 at 06:56 PM.
And that's the truth TX. And one point I tried to make buy saying better call for car control.
I race cars. I'm sanctioned to do so. I'm a member of the NHRA. I know what can happen. Passenger cars do not have roll cages. Spectators are not allowed on the field. This was an unfortunite accident that has happened more times than I care to count. Life is full of risks. All we can do is reduce risk, not eliminate it. You could take your family to a Blue Angel airshow and have a jet fly into the crowd. You could go to the Circus and have a tiger get out or an elephant and tear people up. You could go to Disneyland and have one of the rides go off the tracks and kill all aboard. You could go to Sea World and get eaten by a Land Shark! Just kidding, but you get the picture. I reduce my risks by having some input. I pack my own chute and I check my scuba equipment. No one has as much a vested interest in your safety than you. It's my azz and if I'm gonna die, it's because of me, not someone else! That's why you won't ever see me standing on the side of the road watching two teens racing a quarter mile on four "may pop" tires! I have seen folks ripped to shreds in car racing accidents. It's something you never get used to. I own a 69 Camaro with a blown 502 crate engine that will send you down the quarter mile at such speeds that the blood rushes to the back of your head and all you can do is pray and hold on for dear life. This is no toy. I'm pushing 1,800 horsepower when I hit the NO. I wouldn't dare let anyone else drive that car. Oh well, I'm rambling again. See what you have to look forward to when you get to my age? LOL!
I'm past your age BB. lol And with the aches and the pains I have, I could probably add another 10-20 years to it. If the age in your profile is true, I got about 16 years on you. lol
And I agree with you and know as well as you do that there are risks involved in everyday life, let alone doing things or putting yourself in situations that can increase that risk.
Do you think in this case they'll blame the car or the person driving the cars? Right, they'll blame the people driving the cars for doing something they shouldn't have been and that is illegal to do.
Yet when it comes to gun violence, they blame the gun or guns. NEVER the person behind the gun or controlling the gun. Wonder why that is?
That was my point in starting this thread. To show how even though two different instruments can kill the same amount of innocent victims or in this case, spectators, that society has two very different reactions and can't see that in both cases it was the person behind the acts. With car wrecks they blame the driver. In gun crimes they blame the gun.
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Last edited by GlockMeister; 02-16-2008 at 07:21 PM.
This was at night???? Why did he not have his headlights on? What kind of fool drives without his headlights at night? Oh well. He lived. Maybe he can explain these questions. The car looked like a Crown Vic or a Grand Marquis. Surely he wasn't racing that land yatch????? I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm sure you are too. It's a tragedy and my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and the families involved. I've had to say this too many times as of late. Whether it be school or mall shootings, or tragedies like this. People need to realize that they have more control over their longevity than anyone else. If you put yourself in harms way, don't be surprised if/when something bad happens.
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I'm past your age BB. lol And with the aches and the pains I have, I could probably add another 10-20 years to it. If the age in your profile is true, I got about 16 years on you. lol
And I agree with you and know as well as you do that there are risks involved in everyday life, let alone doing things or putting yourself in situations that can increase that risk.
Do you think in this case they'll blame the car or the person driving the cars? Right, they'll blame the people driving the cars for doing something they shouldn't have been and that is illegal to do.
Yet when it comes to gun violence, they blame the gun or guns. NEVER the person behind the gun or controlling the gun. Wonder why that is?
That was my point in starting this thread. To show how even though two different instruments can kill the same amount of innocent victims or in this case, spectators, that society has two very different reactions and can't see that in both cases it was the person behind the acts. With car wrecks they blame the driver. In gun crimes they blame the gun.
By the way buddy, I love your avatar. I saw a picture of an eagle with "Old Glory" flying behind it. I wish I could find it again. It sure made me proud as Hell just looking at it!
Last edited by Brother Bob; 02-16-2008 at 07:48 PM.
Reason: Automerged Doublepost
According to our local newspaper, the driver of the white crown vic was an innocent bystander who couldn't see where he was going because of all the tire smoke.There were no charges considered against him./her.
A white Crown Vic . . . either drive by the police or an old person. Since we can't ban the police, let's ban old people.
Someone is frantially typing up the "Senior Control Act of 2008" as we speak.
Ok Dookiebutt, I'm quickly approaching that "old person" status and those Crown Vics and Grand Marquis are becoming quite appealing to me........... NOT!!!!!!LOL!
The "accident" happened at 3 AM. Two cars racing did a huge "burnout" that created a massive cloud of smoke. After they took off the crowd of over 50 people swarmed onto the highway. The Crown Vic drove into the smoke at 55 MPH not knowing it hid a crowd of people. People in the crowd claimed the car was driving with head lights off, but the same smoke that hid them also hid the lights of the oncoming car. By the time most of them saw the car it had already suffered damage from hitting people.
A semi that came upon the accident scene a short time later is also suspected of hitting a person that was hidden in the lingering smoke.
What I can't believe is the ages - ranging from 10 years old to people in the 60s watching "street racing" at 3 AM. This wasn't just some highschool kids doing something stupid.
Several rumors surrounded the accident at first as people on the scene also claimed it was a police car that came speeding up to arrest the drag racers. Other pople claiming to be witnesses say there was no smoke, the Crown Vic was traveling at 100+mph, and it had it's headlights off. They also say no one was in the road, and the driver of the CV was arrested for DUI. None of which was true.
You come up on some unexplained smoke on a rural road in the middle of the night your first reaction is to slow down and figure out what's going on - by that time this driver touched the brake he'd probably already hit 4-5 people. You don't expect there to be 50 peope milling around in the middle of the road hidden by the smoke.
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A terrible, terrible tragedy, and my heart goes out to the victims and their families. But the racers should be put in prison cells, and the keys thrown away. But I'll bet they're out on the street already, planning their next debacle. As far as I'm concerned, a car is a far more dangerous weapon than any gun, and you can have one as soon as Daddy pays for it. Don't even need a license, just turn the key on, and go. And parents just keep on buying the damn things for kids who shouldn't be on a bicycle, let alone behind the wheel of a five thousand pound killing machine.
those folks lost their lives to watch an illegal sport. The local track (MIR) will open on the 1st of March. They could have gone there to race then, but from what I understand, there was a main bet of 17,000 dollars on the line. The side betting is also pretty heavy, and no sanctioned track allows gambling on the premises. My co-workers and I knew several of the people killed. If you look at the ages of those killed, you may be surprised to notice most were in their 30's and 40's. Mr. Gaines was 61, and was there with his daughter and her son. The link to the CNN story is below. I just wonder how long it will be before they start up again, a few months perhaps? Street-race crash kills 8 in crowd - CNN.com
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Bad accident, I really don't see why they would be doing a john force burnout on the street like that for racing. We do tons of organized street racing here and have never had a problem with tire smoke and theres a few 9second cars running.
I race cars. I'm sanctioned to do so. I'm a member of the NHRA. I know what can happen. Passenger cars do not have roll cages. Spectators are not allowed on the field. This was an unfortunite accident that has happened more times than I care to count. Life is full of risks. All we can do is reduce risk, not eliminate it. You could take your family to a Blue Angel airshow and have a jet fly into the crowd. You could go to the Circus and have a tiger get out or an elephant and tear people up. You could go to Disneyland and have one of the rides go off the tracks and kill all aboard. You could go to Sea World and get eaten by a Land Shark! Just kidding, but you get the picture. I reduce my risks by having some input. I pack my own chute and I check my scuba equipment. No one has as much a vested interest in your safety than you. It's my azz and if I'm gonna die, it's because of me, not someone else! That's why you won't ever see me standing on the side of the road watching two teens racing a quarter mile on four "may pop" tires! I have seen folks ripped to shreds in car racing accidents. It's something you never get used to. I own a 69 Camaro with a blown 502 crate engine that will send you down the quarter mile at such speeds that the blood rushes to the back of your head and all you can do is pray and hold on for dear life. This is no toy. I'm pushing 1,800 horsepower when I hit the NO. I wouldn't dare let anyone else drive that car. Oh well, I'm rambling again. See what you have to look forward to when you get to my age? LOL!
What times are you getting in the quarter with that?
Do you have any trouble with 60' times, trying to harness your power?
I know this is off the topic, but I am very much a hotrodder at heart.
