Not an in depth session due to time & weather. Pictured are the first 5 shots I took with this rifle.
158 grain Mag Tech Soft point at approx 1200 fps. approx 40 paces.
It was raining, windy and cold today. I used a cardboard box for a rest. I believe when I have the time to sit down and properly shoot it will be nothing but better.
Loading the .357 through the loading port took a little getting used to. On the last round I had to use my cold pinkie finger to push the cartridge all the way in. No biggie though.
.357's fed flawlessly. .38's did ok. I had a little hiccup or two feeding the .38's, my son had none, chalked it up to just being me.
Recoil was non existant.
I did some birm plinking at approx 80-90 yards. I picked on a couple of rocks the size of softballs and point of impact was right on.
This rifle will definitely become one of my favorites. I look forward to running a lot of ammo through it.
I will take a set of calipers to the brass. I loaded 7 grains of 700X with the 158 Magtech not a very pushy .357 loading. All brass stretches to a degree, but I haven't noticed it alot in my .357 brass Iv'e shot through the Black Hawk. If need be I'll break out the Lee .357 trimmer and the Makita electric drill and go to town
You may find that the oal is shorter using a revolver because of the clearance required for the cylinder to turn and the chamber being slightly larger to facilitate loading.I was speaking about a rifle chamber might be slightly tighter and no tolerance for a cylinder to turn,causing the case to stretch out more than up. sam.
I understand Sam,
Thanks for clarifying, the cases have to stretch first though. In the past Iv'e had no apprceciable case stretch, verified via caliper measurement. I'll definitely watch it & I understand how it could effect feeding.
Regards,
Jerry
I understand Sam,
Thanks for clarifying, the cases have to stretch first though. In the past Iv'e had no apprceciable case stretch, verified via caliper measurement. I'll definitely watch it & I understand how it could effect feeding.
Regards,
Jerry
I used to shoot full power reloads of .357 in a Ruger Security Six . Never thought about trimming the brass . But full power loads soon produced splits in the mouth of the brass .
I was given a Winny M92 that has been converted to .357 . Shot it once with .38 Specials I loaded with home cast SWC's
A lot of fun to shoot . But none of my lever guns seem to like the SWC's I have long loaded for wheel guns .
Considering the purchase of a Lee 6 cavity Round Nose Lead mold .
This is what I have done for my .44 Mag lever gun .
Just out of interest jerry,have you measured a case before and after sizing them?Try it and see the difference.Its amazing how much they do grow in length after sizing.I hope you are checking the length after you size them.Im sure you are you have been loading for a long time.
AH:When are we going to get you into reloading so you can have all of these questions and maybe a mental colapse too?You are missing all of the fun,to say nothing of twice the shooting. sam.
Just out of interest jerry,have you measured a case before and after sizing them?Try it and see the difference.Its amazing how much they do grow in length after sizing.I hope you are checking the length after you size them.Im sure you are you have been loading for a long time.
Hey Murph,
Iv'e measured them at different stages. Iv'e always been a light load type of loader. The volume on the .357's has not been as high as the .38's as well I think this has babied the brass. Before I owned a set of calipers I used the Lee trimmer on the .357's. For a while I got in a mode of trimming after sizing at all times. I noted that I was taking off no or very little metal. Iv'e been loading for a fairly long time, 19 years, but I know people who have driven for a long time and are bad drivers, LOL. Always something to learn. Appreciate the heads up from all for sure.
Wyr.I seen the same with SWC in the .38's with the rifle. I don't think I had them moving fast enough. Had them mild loaded for the pistol.
AH.
Here is a pic of my son shooting the 1892 that same day.
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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter
I went to Rossi's web site to see what the rifle looked like and didn't find it, but i did order a catalog.
Great range report Jerry...A.H
Hey Murph,
Iv'e measured them at different stages. Iv'e always been a light load type of loader. The volume on the .357's has not been as high as the .38's as well I think this has babied the brass. Before I owned a set of calipers I used the Lee trimmer on the .357's. For a while I got in a mode of trimming after sizing at all times. I noted that I was taking off no or very little metal. Iv'e been loading for a fairly long time, 19 years, but I know people who have driven for a long time and are bad drivers, LOL. Always something to learn. Appreciate the heads up from all for sure.
Wyr.I seen the same with SWC in the .38's with the rifle. I don't think I had them moving fast enough. Had them mild loaded for the pistol.
AH.
My problem with SWC's in the hand gun calabers , in lever guns , has been feeding problems .
My .45 handgun molds are round nose and round nose flat point . One is a tumble lube 230 grain to duplicate .45 ACP ball and the other id conventional lube groove , probably intended for wheel gun .
The RN feeds slick in the .45 LC Rossi Puma . Best I remember , the RFN feeds OK too .
I may have mentioned I bought a RN mold for .444 Mag ? It feeds fine .
My .45-70 feeds fine too , all the molds are RN . But since the action is longer , the feed angle seems shallower , I would bet it would be less sensitive to other bullet shapes ?
My next vatch for the Winny M92 will be loaded with the same SWC's , but in .357 brass . Then I will probably decide if I need to buy a RN mold .
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I found the SWC's a bit finicky in .38's but thought it was due to OAL of the 38 vs 357. My son didn't have a problem chambering them, mabe I wasn't holding my tongue right?
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I found the SWC's a bit finicky in .38's but thought it was due to OAL of the 38 vs 357. My son didn't have a problem chambering them, mabe I wasn't holding my tongue right?
