Old 02-17-2008, 11:53 PM   #1
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Ok, before laughing at me, please remember I just got this AK and this is only the second time I've had it on the range with no experience with AKs before this.

Ok, so I went out to a new range today and had way too much fun with my AK. Put 100 rounds down range and spent a good deal of time rapid firing (not every shot, though). Here's my question: She was smoking like she was on fire 50 rounds in. Is that normal? She wasn't on fire, I checked, but the smoke pouring out of her was like nothing I've experienced before. When I was done with her and switched to the handguns, my only option was to lay her on the table I was shooting from so she could cool down. She cooled very quickly, I think, but she did leave a minor melted spot on the plastic under her barrel (which wasn't even touching the plastic). The barrel got kind of ashy looking, too (still black, but not the same as when we went in, if that makes sense). It looks better now, but still slightly ashy, now it just looks dirty; it was worse on the range. Normal?

FYI: Ammo used was 123 grain Hot Shot from one of those tins of 700 rounds.
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:01 AM   #2
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I'm thinking it's kind of normal with them, not 100% positive. I haven't shot one at all either. If there was a lot of oil down the barrel or in the action, that also might explain for the smoke? But if it was hot, it'll probably smoke, especially if there was oil residue in it. Oil does smoke when heated.

I'm sure someone else will have some feedback. But again, it may be normal. In some of the you tube I've watched, they get them smoking not to far in. But then, I'm not sure how much they shot them before starting the tape rolling?
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:51 AM   #3
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I was thinking it may be left over cosmoline. I never did manage to get the hand guards off when I was cleaning it the first time through. I spent two hours brushing that stuff off, but never got the whole thing cleaned out. And it had a funky smell to it (yes, I stuck my nose to the hand guard to see if it was burning or if it smelled like my shotgun after a day of sporting clays). So it could have been cosmoline burning off. It could have just been the rifle heating up from rapid fire. I dunno.
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:43 AM   #4
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It was probably old gunk that got hot and that melted spot just may be some gunk that liquified and may come off.
Had fun didn't you LOL...A.H
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:50 AM   #5
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Quote:       Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter View Post
Had fun didn't you LOL...A.H
An insane amount of fun, yes. LOL!
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Well you need to get that hand guard off. And I'm glad you had a blast. Sounds fun.

And I must also admit, I also like your user ID, SUCKLEAD. lol

Clean that baby out thoroughly. Then go have a blast again.
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:37 AM   #7
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Dont sweat it it's normal run another thousand rounds through her just to make sure she's allright.
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Old 02-18-2008, 03:25 AM   #8
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No such thing as a Stupid Question!! Some stupid answers maybe but no Stupid questions!
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:18 PM   #9
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Smokin is normal, but it isn't good to overheat the barrel too often!
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:28 PM   #10
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as long as it doesnt start melting it should be allright. Check out you tube AK on fire its interesting.
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:40 PM   #11
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I think because it was smoking after 50 rounds out of the 100 rounds she put through it was the main reason of concern I think?

For my informational purposes, and hers and others to I suppose that may not know, other then oil residue or left over or missed cosmo, what is it about these that cause them to smoke and even get so hot? Is it just the rounds them self, the powder in the Wolf rounds? Any special reason/s?
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:59 AM   #12
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It may be that Hot Shot is "dirty/sooty" like many of the Wolf rounds. Try something like Golden Tiger that I found to be fairly "clean/non-sooty" or Winchester White Box and see if you're still getting the smoke.
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:50 PM   #13
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Yeah I would say the ammo. I shoot wolf in my SKS and it always smokes a little bit.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:42 PM   #14
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How much is that Golden Tiger stuff? The Winchester white box is up to $1 per round here.
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Old 02-20-2008, 01:59 AM   #15
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Golden Tiger runs comparably to Wolf, +/- a cent or two a round. The cheapest I've seen it is $169+shipping for 1000 rounds.

PM me and I'll send you a link to it. I haven't yet gathered enough money to buy it and don't want it to disappear before I get a chance to get it at that price, as most places have it at $175-199 per thousand.
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:59 AM   #16
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That last one is Wolf Classic, GM, but yeah, that's about what I was saying.

I do know of ONE place that has Golden Tiger for $169+shipping.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:27 PM   #17
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Had to laugh at this thread.. I bought an AK this past weekend and a good friend in the Marines in Germany heard I'd bought one and sent me this link:


Don't think I want to do that to my new toy...but interesting.

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Old 03-02-2008, 11:33 AM   #18
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Old post but there all gonna smoke no matter what ammo, just the oil in the stock and barrel heating up, wont bother a AK at all, I have bump fired my AK with the 75 round drum till i was waiting for it to catch fire LOL If ya cant get it clean just blow it out with Brake fluid and it will take all that old cosmo off it , I clean mine that way after i shoot it all the time
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