[BunnyWabbit]

Couldn't remember the site to check this out on.

[Wingwiper]

Quote:       Originally Posted by meatloaf

If the democrats win (god im scared) what will happen?

What do you mean IF? there are only Democrats running.

[samuel]

Right on! sam.

[oldhorse50]

better start buying lots of ammo, have u priced ammo lately?...if the dems get in,watch the price of ammo really go up, hillary has stated, that people shouldn't be allowed to buy cases of ammo

[Rave]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Coeloptera

Hate to tell you this (okay, not really) but that email's full of out and out lies. Not massaging this one. Straight up untruths. Ya got fished in if you believe that one: PolitiFact | Obama sworn in on his Bible This lil' bit of vitriol's been making the rounds for a while now. Any cursory info search will show you he swore in on a Bible. S'a little alarmist, dontcha think? "OMG teh mooslims r gunna take over!!11ONE!!" That's about as seriously as I'd take that. Heck, who here is old enough to remember when Kennedy got the same schtick because he was Catholic? People always need to hate something, I swear. - Coeloptera

I remember,and the media was kinda creepy about it.
I think the Democrats are going to win this time,and they would not have had a chance if it were'nt for the MIC! We have him to thank.

[stalebiscuit]

why do the republicans have such weak sauce candidates

lame

[Coeloptera]

Quote:       Originally Posted by stalebiscuit

why do the republicans have such weak sauce candidates lame

I honestly think it's because the Republican Party started trying very hard to cater to their perceived "base" which was actually the farther Right and the Evangelicals. They totally forgot about moderate conservatives and alienated a lot of people. They essentially fragmented their own party into distinct blocks. The fact that the current Administration really tried for an Imperial Presidency did not help matters.

What I find particularly stupid about that is the fact that Bush apparently wants to turn over dangerously powerful legislation to someone who could become his own party's worst nightmare. Can you imagine Hillary and a one-party Congress with warrantless wiretaps, bypassing the FISA courts, and with the ability to suspend Habeus Corpus and imprison citizens at will as "enemy combatants"?

Why would he do that? If he's not even willing to entertain the possibility (let alone the large chance) that a Democrat might become President then he truly is the idiot so many keep saying he is.

It's that kind of thing that really doesn't help. They welded the party to a currently unpopular war, alienated their moderates, and pushed away a good number of fence-sitters. No one Republican candidate can conceivably unite all those disparate elements at this point. Thus, you had people pandering to one group or another (because to try and appeal to the spread will alienate either of the edges), you had single-issue candidates with no substance beyond it (Rudy 9iul1an1), and ones with odd discrepancies in their backgrounds (Ron Paul). McCain is almost a poor compromise candidate who was assaulted by his own party in the not-too-distant past, and now they're expected to back him up all the way to Capitol Hill?

It's unlikely, at best. Unfortunately, the other side isn't much better...but it's at least a little better...well, if it isn't Hillary. I think at this point it's a struggle to be "least distasteful" cadidate.

- Coeloptera

[Rave]

I hope we never have another election like this one again!

[troy2000]

Quote:       Originally Posted by BunnyWabbit

Couldn't remember the site to check this out on.

That would be snopes.com, BunnyWabbit. But you don't even need to bother; it's out-and-out garbage. The Obama stuff I mean, not snopes. They do their homework.

[nathangdad]

It seems pretty incredible but some Texans are talking about
advising people to split their ticket - Obama for President then
straight Republican. Their thinking is Obama will bring home the
troops (let's be honest - it is a strong pull with many Texans) and
a Republican Senate and House will block Democrat gun control
initiatives.

This will be a strange political season after the conventions.
It will be very strange in Texas.

[stalebiscuit]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Coeloptera

I honestly think it's because the Republican Party started trying very hard to cater to their perceived "base" which was actually the farther Right and the Evangelicals. They totally forgot about moderate conservatives and alienated a lot of people. They essentially fragmented their own party into distinct blocks. The fact that the current Administration really tried for an Imperial Presidency did not help matters. What I find particularly stupid about that is the fact that Bush apparently wants to turn over dangerously powerful legislation to someone who could become his own party's worst nightmare. Can you imagine Hillary and a one-party Congress with warrantless wiretaps, bypassing the FISA courts, and with the ability to suspend Habeus Corpus and imprison citizens at will as "enemy combatants"? Why would he do that? If he's not even willing to entertain the possibility (let alone the large chance) that a Democrat might become President then he truly is the idiot so many keep saying he is. It's that kind of thing that really doesn't help. They welded the party to a currently unpopular war, alienated their moderates, and pushed away a good number of fence-sitters. No one Republican candidate can conceivably unite all those disparate elements at this point. Thus, you had people pandering to one group or another (because to try and appeal to the spread will alienate either of the edges), you had single-issue candidates with no substance beyond it (Rudy 9iul1an1), and ones with odd discrepancies in their backgrounds (Ron Paul). McCain is almost a poor compromise candidate who was assaulted by his own party in the not-too-distant past, and now they're expected to back him up all the way to Capitol Hill? It's unlikely, at best. Unfortunately, the other side isn't much better...but it's at least a little better...well, if it isn't Hillary. I think at this point it's a struggle to be "least distasteful" cadidate. - Coeloptera

my beef with bush isnt that, but mostly that we voted to keep him in 2004, and he aint done shit since

his first half of his presidency was not bad, i thought the sequel was going to be better.....i was wrong

i mean come on, fix social security, secure the damn border, undo all that liberal legislation in the clinton years.............not a thing

sigh