If the democrats win (god im scared) what will happen? How long realisticly till a gunban starts? Im asking because I'm torn between paying bills or buying a gun that will definantly be banned. If it will take time for the ban to go into effect then I can pay bills(yuck) and then save again for a gun. If its going to be immediate I should buy my gun and pay bills later. The anti gun idiots really and truly are self defeating. I wouldnt even be in a rush if I didnt have a possable time frame, and with this scare all they are doing is causing mass proliferation of firearms in a short ammount of time. I know people buying up ten to fifteen guns in a time period that they might have just bought one. Gun sales are exploding all over the country. The dems are truly shooting themselves in the foot. Not to mention I know some gun lovers that are (gasp) democrats that will vote republican because of this issue (it realy makes me laugh). So what do you people think?
Well, I don't have enough pennies yet to buy another gun. I AM looking at a saiga, but IDK if I'll get the money in time. We kinda payin bills ourselves.
Well the new candidate would get in on Jan 20 and it would take a bit for them to get the legislation to congress and if the correct senators would do their job and filibuster then it probably wouldn't take effect for awhile. I would guess September at the earliest but it could end up being sooner if congress already has it in there. Earliest possible would have to be may june. FOr most things but then again it is about guns so it could be earlier.
Pay your bills on time, increase your credit score...and buy a load of them!
Seriously...pay your bills, and then buy what you can afford.
Actually, under Democrats plan, you can buy whatever you want, and if you can't pay for it later, they will bail you out and make the rest of the population pay for your mistake.
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I have a feeling that at least some form of more stringent gun control will happen after the election WHOEVER wins. Be it Obama, Clinton, or McCain (the most likely winners) I think controls will tighten. The only candidate that I trust with the second ammendment further than I can throw them is Ron Paul who doesn't have a shot.
Much the same with the two issues I care most deeply about: illegal immigration and out of control deficit spending. Like it or not, I think some guns will be banned, some illegals will get amnesty, and even more money we don't have will go to pork projects.
If "We the People" allow Hillery or Yo Mama try to enact strick gun laws or try to take our guns "We the People" have to collectively call and write our congressmen, put real pressure on them. Remember when they tried to pass an amnesty bill to let the illegals get a free ride, the public outcry was phenominal. That is what we as law abiding citizens have to do. We don't take no sh@t from these people, and especially from your congressman. We have the power of the vote and its time we reel these spineless cowards in.
I'm an angry white male, I will do whatever is necessary to keep our 2nd rights.
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If "We the People" allow Hillery or Yo Mama try to enact strick gun laws or try to take our guns "We the People" have to collectively call and write our congressmen, put real pressure on them. Remember when they tried to pass an amnesty bill to let the illegals get a free ride, the public outcry was phenominal. That is what we as law abiding citizens have to do. We don't take no sh@t from these people, and especially from your congressman. We have the power of the vote and its time we reel these spineless cowards in.
I'm an angry white male, I will do whatever is necessary to keep our 2nd rights.
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... you hold the politicians feet to the fire and remind them that we have these rights by our founding father, period. Remind them of their obligation to upholding the Constitution AND all of the Amendments it specifies.
As a military member, we swear to uphold the Constitution. Wouldn't you think that the politicians would have the same obligation?
obstruct, demand your rights like other minorities, women, gays and so on! another thing to consider and if the republicans play it right we might still have a chance? the socialist democrat party runs the risk of splitting their party between to alleged minorities who both are fighting for top victim hood status.For now lets observe and just bide our time! personaly I take great joy in watching these socialists devour each other, they are showing their true character and will discourage the fence sitters,( commonly called moderates)and possibly sway them to our side.
I think if they did try to do any sort of gun ban it would be EARLY in their term. Late in the term would be close enough to an election to make them lose the legislature like happened in '94 after passing the AWB. So I think the push would be '08'-'09.
If it's buying more guns vs paying bills, pay your bills. If it's balancing gun purchases vs interest rates on debt, find a strategy and stick to it. One that positively gives you guns and positively gives you a firm plan to still move out of debt.
If you can nail a price through layaway or finance over time at a reasonable rate, this would be a good time, before prices really go crazy. If a Democrat is elected, prices will go up until people stop paying them, regardless of the actual passing of any bills.
Me, I prepared for this sort of thing over a long time, so I'm out of the buying phase. Your goal should be to reach a point where you are satisfied with what you have and can stop the buying spree before it consumes you financially and emotionally. Make goals, meet them, and hold yourself to being satisfied and not buying endlessly.
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I think if they did try to do any sort of gun ban it would be EARLY in their term. Late in the term would be close enough to an election to make them lose the legislature like happened in '94 after passing the AWB. So I think the push would be '08'-'09.
If it's buying more guns vs paying bills, pay your bills. If it's balancing gun purchases vs interest rates on debt, find a strategy and stick to it. One that positively gives you guns and positively gives you a firm plan to still move out of debt.
If you can nail a price through layaway or finance over time at a reasonable rate, this would be a good time, before prices really go crazy. If a Democrat is elected, prices will go up until people stop paying them, regardless of the actual passing of any bills.
Me, I prepared for this sort of thing over a long time, so I'm out of the buying phase. Your goal should be to reach a point where you are satisfied with what you have and can stop the buying spree before it consumes you financially and emotionally. Make goals, meet them, and hold yourself to being satisfied and not buying endlessly.
I doubt any guns will be confiscated on or before election day there are to many politicians who know this is to hot a subject. you notice very few are actualy talking about this, again lets see how the supremes rule on this up coming case, this whole gun control may become a moot issue with our elected prostitues.
I do believe at least part of what happens assuming a Democrat wins the White House (which is by no means a sure thing; the surveys I have seen show McCain clobbering Hillary and narrowly defeating Obama) as far as gun control goes will be determined by how the Supreme Court rules in DC vs Heller. Also, on when the ruling is issued. We want it before the election, to force the Democratic nominee to declare his/her intentions. Anything declaration other than an affirmation of the absolute, individual right to keep and bear arms will hand the election to the Republicans on a silver platter, and the Democrats know it. It's one reason gun control has barely registered on the radar this time out. There is no point in discussing it until we know what the Supremes do to the ground rules.
If they make a flat statement that all Americans have the right to keep and bear arms, and Congress has no right to restrict what we can own, it will torpedo the antis for at least a year while they fight suits to repeal everything from the Sullivan Law in NYC to the Machine Gun Control Act of 1934 and GCA '68. It will also seriously impede a number of Democratic Congresscritters, who would have to defend their position after the Supremes have declared the position unconstitutional, which would hand their opponents a big club to beath them with. But I don't think that will happen.
If the Supremes rule narrowly, declaring that the DC law is unconstitutional because it bans pistols and ready-for-use guns and therefore infringes on the people of DC's right to keep and bear arms, but that the government can place "reasonable restrictions" on what kinds of firearms we can own, no one loses or gains much. We, I think, get the proof that the Second Amendment is an individual and not a governmental right, just like the other nine rights in the Bill of Rights. That's important, because it lays the groundwork for attackin other unjust laws on a case-by-case basis. The antis get to keep MGCA 1934 and GCA '68. We would gain the legal weapon of being able to force the antis to justify why banning a particular class of firearm or firearms feature is "reasonable," which they would have a hard time doing. Essentially it would be the status quo, or possibly a narrow win for us.
If they rule the DC gun ban is reasonable, we are screwed. It will give the antis a big club to use on shooters and collectors everywhere. And I don't think I'm going too far when I say a ruling that blatantly against the intention of the Constitution could trigger a civil war or even the dissolution of the United States, if the government tries to confiscate our guns. I am sure at least some of the Supremes are aware that there are a hell of a lot more people in the United States who have guns than they have soldiers, and that they can't try to disguise a gun grab for anything except what it is; and that the People won't stand for that. And the very people they would try and oppress are the ones who would shoot back. WE are not sheeple.
So before we worry about which Dumbocrat and which Republiclown will be facing off in November, let's wait and see how DC vs Heller comes out.
Also check the voting record of every politician that you can vote for in your State. If they have a history of voting for bills that violate your Constitutional or State rights then VOTE THEM OUT. Also, any who have been in office two full terms, vote them out. We don't need professional politicians, two terms in each office and they are out, just like the President. Get new people and new ideas.
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Wow, I didnt mean to start a war. I just have money and I have bills and there is a gun at the gunstore that wont let me sleep at night. My bills are not over my head but it would be nice to see them go bye bye. Then there is also the gun ban scare, so what to do what to do. Responsability vs fun, argh it hurts.
And Cyrano sir I was agreable to everything you said except the last paragraph. I have alot of family serving our country I could not and would not take arms up against them. Talk of civil war and dissolution of the united states just so I could keep my firearms is ludicris. If it came down to war one could rearm himself. Also they will never get every gun and there will be ways one could buy guns for hunting (they might have to be pink but hey), and we all know a semi auto is the same as any other semi auto. Its the look they are after, so give up your synthetic stock and pistol grip it's annoying but so what its better than civil war. I love this country.
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Wow, I didnt mean to start a war. I just have money and I have bills and there is a gun at the gunstore that wont let me sleep at night. My bills are not over my head but it would be nice to see them go bye bye. Then there is also the gun ban scare, so what to do what to do. Responsability vs fun, argh it hurts.
And Cyrano sir I was agreable to everything you said except the last paragraph. I have alot of family serving our country I could not and would not take arms up against them. Talk of civil war and dissolution of the united states just so I could keep my firearms is ludicris. If it came down to war one could rearm himself. Also they will never get every gun and there will be ways one could buy guns for hunting (they might have to be pink but hey), and we all know a semi auto is the same as any other semi auto. Its the look they are after, so give up your synthetic stock and pistol grip it's annoying but so what its better than civil war. I love this country.
with all do respect big brother is counting on and hoping the masses retain the same out look you have,just bare in mind once something is gone it's usualy gone for good and then whats next??????
IF the democrats win? 
