pretty guns

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by MrsS

I can't give any opinions about toy guns for I personally do not allow my 4 year old from having toy guns;(can't say whether that rule extends to his Papa's home); I & my husband choosing to not allow him to have toy guns was so he would truly be aware of what guns are....a deadly weapon not to be trifled with until he is old enough to be taught responsible gun ownership. He is aware of the guns we have, what they look like; he has held them with our supervision (empty of course)and that they are locked up...he is also aware that a pink gun (seen some Taurus's with the pink grips!) is still a gun. Banning firearms of any type/style isn't necessarily the solution; education and personal accountability would be the more appropriate step to take. That's just my opinion/feedback. Thanks.

I played with toy cap guns when I was growing up just like all my brothers and friends did, and they looked strikingly like the real thing. I don''t remember any of us being confused about what was a toy and what was real...or thinking we should treat the real guns in the house like toys.

To my mind, that's like not letting a child have a pedal car, because he might start thinking he should drive Mommy and Daddy's real one.

[mym1a]

Originally Posted by troy2000

I played with toy cap guns when I was growing up just like all my brothers and friends did, and they looked strikingly like the real thing. I don''t remember any of us being confused about what was a toy and what was real...or thinking we should treat the real guns in the house like toys.

how many kids today troy2000 grew up in the environment our generation did? you probably grew up around guns and have been apart of your life as far back as you can remember????

[samuel]

Originally Posted by mym1a

from what i've read on this thread if they do ban them it will be because of the bright colors and decalls placed on them. see you just made my point sam if we don't police our selves and show responsibilty and common sence some one else will ! and now there wanting to pass more laws to probably include other measures

If they ban guns because of pretty colors,shouldnt they also have the right to ban them because they have high cap mags,bayonet attachments,military looking stocks (pistol grip),are semi-auto can be reloaded with a pump action or other device,load multiple rounds from top or bottom,are too large,are too small,etc,etc.why do'nt you just turn everything over to the gun grabbers? sam.

[GlockMeister]

Originally Posted by MrsS

Hey Glockmeister...you just gave me a roll call for the women's shooter forum....will have to see how many female gun owners/shooters out there would own a gun with hello Kitty, smiley, etc. As for this woman.....nah, no hello kitty for me...I'm not out there toting guns for its color or looks....I'm a gun carrier for protection! Pink camo or hearts adorning a gun would not lessen my fear for them, nor would the pretty colors/design make me a more confident/better shooter. Again, that's my personal opinion.

I'd be curious to know the results. I only gave that as a thought as to why pink and with Hello Kitty. No real man would be caught dead with it. I honestly couldn't think of any other reason for that color and design other then as a marketing tool towards women shooters? So please, LMK the results. lol

Oh and by the way, they showed a little Kel-Tec (looked like one anyhow) that was pink with a black slide and a few others that were similar. Even had a lime green one with black tiger stripes, that looked like a AK under folder from what I remember. But I'm pretty sure that one was aimed at the men.

But the only reason any of them were painted up in any color or design, in my honest opinion, was to advertise the Duracoat firearm finishes.

[mym1a]

my point exactly sam why give them any more excuse. you can justify subdued colors bayo's large capacity magazines semi even full auto under the 2nd ammendment, but to those that know nothing about firearms are going to preceive these brightly colored firearms as an attempt to draw curious children into playing with them

[MrsS]

Troy...for my little one, it isn't because it would confuse him...my son is mechanically inclined...he wants to know how everything functions, whether alive or not...he loves to tear things down to its very core....my son is the type to pick up a rattlesnake, point it towards me, and, as its biting him, say "mom...how does the snake move with no legs?" gun: "mom, I know it shoots bullets, but what's inside there that does it" as he fiddles with the hammer, trigger, etc( he has already done that with my gun); he is the true epitome of "curiosity killed the cat"; I can't shelter him from life and I don't, but I want to at least lessen his chances of any catastrophic outcomes until he is knowledgeable enough of the inherent dangers out there. That's all.(Typical mom protectiveness....and dads too!!)

[mym1a]

It's a shame our society has come to this level of crazyness but thats what we are dealing with

[samuel]

Originally Posted by mym1a

you want to talk about the 2nd ammendment?okay sam 2nd ammendment also mentions we the people are the miltia and enjoy the right to posses firearms comperable to that of a standing army, please show me were the us military has in its inventory any pink rifles with decals of ponys, hearts and other child like cosmetics on them?If they do please show me ?


I agree commpletely I was never allowed to have a toy gun but did shoot real guns before i could ride a bike and received a 22 rifle on my 8th birthday.

Yes,I want to talk about the second amendment.I want to believe in it and back it unto death!If pink would help the military in some way I am sure we would see pink guns,they already camo them.As to toy guns,is it better that children pick up their gun knowledge from mass shootings on tv rather than have a toy gun that you can use to instruct them with and advise them of the dangers of firearms? sam.

[mym1a]

Originally Posted by samuel

MyM1A:Then you believe caving in to gun grabbers and forgetting the 2nd ammendment is the way to preserve our gun rights?

sam I think you should read my posts and not focus on key words like gun manufacture I think your speed reading and not fully digesting what im saying????????

the problem sam, kids generaly don't receive any education they can skin a condom but are thaught nothing about gun safety?

[samuel]

As stated,firearms should be kept away from children with no supervision.But I have never heard of a case of a child firing a firearm just because it was pink.And I personally believe it is wrong to tell the ladies they are using poor judgement because they like what they consider 'pretty guns'.That is what I always liked about ladies,they are feminine.I just read the last of your post and believe that may be the difference between you and me,when I was little I didnt know what a condom was,"BUT" I sure as hel* knew what a gun was and knew I better not touch it without permission. sam.

[mym1a]

Originally Posted by samuel

MyM1A:Then you believe caving in to gun grabbers and forgetting the 2nd ammendment is the way to preserve our gun rights?

if people used common sence we wouldn't be having this debate? we could be agruing about the 308 vs the 7.62x51 or something else that would enhance our shooting skills?????????

[MrsS]

Samuel, just my bit of information here, since mym1a was just responding to my post about me not allowing my son to have toy guns... in my opinion, children picking up gun knowledge from mass shootings on TV or the like goes back to my earlier posting about personal accountability...my son has been educated about guns, by me, and with a real gun; I guess what I was implying was that people need to take more accountability for their actions, thoughts, beliefs, etc. Violating/upholding the 2nd amendment; banning firearms; government "baby-sitting" the american people, etc.is not helping what I think is a noticeable issue. Laws and rules should be more conicse and direct, i.e. "you do this....you get this - period". No more excuses from anyone, even the government. But that's not real life, is it? By the way, I'm a woman for the 2nd amendment. (couldn't care less about it until I became a gun owner to protect all that's mine). No insult intended.

[mym1a]

Originally Posted by samuel

As stated,firearms should be kept away from children with no supervision.But I have never heard of a case of a child firing a firearm just because it was pink.And I personally believe it is wrong to tell the ladies they are using poor judgement because they like what they consider 'pretty guns'.That is what I always liked about ladies,they are feminine.I just read the last of your post and believe that may be the difference between you and me,when I was little I didnt know what a condom was,"BUT" I sure as hel* knew what a gun was and knew I better not touch it without permission. sam.

see sam you can't get beyond what you think and how others not allied with our sport see things! like it or not these people carry votes, many would never own a fire arm but do believe in the right of individuals to posses firearms! why intentionaly piss them off with something that can be preceived as an attempt to attract small children? is this rational correct? no! rather illogical but we are dealing with perception here, why have a in your face pretty pink pony on a purple rifle. I don't agree with there blanket fear of firearms but i do respect their choice! as they should respect my choice as long as i'm not constantly pushing my agenda down there throats? or being a threat to them ?????

[samuel]

I never won a fight by running away.You you negotiate,I will stand my ground.Yes they carry votes and no matter how nice I am to them or what 'little concesions' I make to them,they will vote to take my rights away.As to angering them,it is better that they are angry than that I lose my rights.Further,you seem to believe that after 20k+ gun laws these people are going to be happy if they get one more.Not one law that has been passed is constitutional.And you want one more.That is why we are losing.We think giving in to them will satisfy them.When I hear gun owners talk like you I begin to think maybe we have already lost.I am sorry but I want to keep what few rights we have left.Do you really think I care about a pink gun?I care about our rights,and being afraid and trying to console them isnt going to make them back off. sam.

[mym1a]

you miss my whole point sam there ar none so blind as those who refuse to see? watch and see how this goes????? I don't see a whole lot of women totaly disagreing with my thought on this? time will tell???

well one thing is for certain! this matter sure got some responces,lol?

[samuel]

Originally Posted by mym1a

you miss my whole point sam there ar none so blind as those who refuse to see? watch and see how this goes????? I don't see a whole lot of women totaly disagreing with my thought on this? time will tell???

well one thing is for certain! this matter sure got some responces,lol?

No! You miss my point! I dont give a dam* about what color a firearm is.I dont want even one more unconstitutional law passed.While you persist in arguing that we shouldnt paint our guns pink for fear of offending some gun grabber,I am trying to tell you that it is only the gun control law I am against.To me the only thought you have is try not to offend someone with a pink gun.I dont own a pink gun but may paint one.I dont care if it does offend someone.I DONT want any more gun control laws,no matter what color they are.And by the way,those people that you said believed we should have our gun rights keep right on voting the gun grabbers into office. sam.

[troy2000]

I'm gonna go with Sam on this one, big-time. We shouldn't have to be afraid to put a Hello Kitty decal on a stock or paint it pretty pink, just because it might offend some anti-gun activists and give them another excuse to pass anti-gun laws.

Hello? They don't NEED any excuses from us. When they want some, they just make 'em up. And if we self-police ourselves and avoid doing anything that might possibly offend them, they won't even need new laws, will they? They'll have won without even having to sneak past the Supreme Court.

That's like a newspaper being afraid to print something because it might piss off the government and make it want to impose censorship: if they're self-censoring based on what they're afraid might offend the government, they've already surrendered the freedom of the press.

[toolman]

My grandkids like all of my guns and it takes all my strength to pry my my Marlin 39-A out of my youngest grandson's hands, but my granddaughter was sort of indifferent UNTIL I showed her a pic. of a hot pink Crickett .22. From that day forward, she pestered the heck out of me about buying her one. Her daddy bought her a Marlin Mod. 60 for Christmas that will soon be stripped and stained the brightest shade of pink to be found anywhere in Abilene, Tx. She loves this gun but she wants it PINK! In my mind, anything that will get a kid away from the television\computer and into the shooting sports, is a good thing. This is just another "stepping stone" for the anti's, first they'll ban pink guns with decals, then red guns, then blue guns, then black guns. Finally, some pinhead a**hole will come up with the idea that a gun with a wood stock looks to much like a piece of firewood, so they'll ban those too, and we'll all be standing around wondering how it happened when they just started out wanting to ban guns that didn't look "real". If you give these fools an inch, they'll take a mile. It all comes down to the parents being responsible for what their children learn, oh wait, we've already abdicated that responsibility to the gov't......

[samuel]

Troy2000 and Toolman: BRAVO. sam.

[Windwalker]

I agree with what Sam, Troy 2000, and Toolman had to say. It is the responsibility of gun owners to properly store firearms where they are not accessible to children. That said, if a pink rifle with decals creates more interest in shooting by my wife, daughter, or granddaughter then they can have it. If it creates more interest in shooting sports, I am for it. As Sam said, the Second Amendment did not specify a color code. Mym1a, the Milita does not issue pink rifles but they have the right if they want to use it. To me the Second Amendment is a personal individual right and I will not voluntarily allow any part of it to be infringed.