pretty guns

[samuel]

Saw a news article on channel3 Kalamazoo,Mich,a CBS affiliate that was talking about these guns that are painted pink,green stripes and such,and they were saying they looked too much like toys and attracted children and should be banned.I believe they said N.Y. was going to ban them.They also stated that toy guns that look like real guns should be banned.Guess they just found something new to complain about.In my opinion we should be instructing our children about both.The part that I wondered about was the fact that they had nothing about banning the person that used a firearm in a criminal pursuit whether it is real or a toy. They just keep making laws on inanimate objects and letting the bad people go.How much do they really care if someone gets hurt? sam.

[Windwalker]

Sam, I think our politicians want to leave the bad guys out there knowing they will hurt and kill more people so the politicians can holler OMG we have to pass more laws taking away the guns so this won't happen again.Only a very few of our politicians are inherently stupid enough to really believe this but the majority of the politicians who support this type of law know that the killings will continue but they just want to take as many guns out of the hands of American Citizens as they can.

[dhermesc]

I think "pink" guns should be banned too, but I think it should be done with industry standards - not government regulations.

Local shop has a nice Ruger stainless 10/22 with a pink laminated stock on it, its been on for two years now.

[samuel]

I cant believe anyone would find a reason to ban a firearm.They do absolutely nothing and have no feelings.They also never commited a crime and dont care if they are used in a crime or confiscated and melted down to make pipe for a bathroom or airplanes.What sense does it make to pass a law against something that doesnt feel?Why not pass laws against the real culprit that does feel and is the real cause of crime.Bad people,whether they are pink or any other color. sam.

[mym1a]

I have joked about this before, but on a serious level I have to agree guns should remain looking like guns and for once the politicians are right about this, let them pass that law and give them the illusion that they are doing something.

[nighthawk80]

I personally don't see a problem with "customizing" a gun with different colors. It does not make it "toy like" If you want to paint a gun pink, then do it. I plan on doing for my daughter if she want me to. It will be her special gun.
It's a frame of mind that the politicians want to put us in. If anyone shold be in trouble, it should be the toy makers for making there toy guns to life like.

[Bravo]

I saw this story on CNN on a tiny tv while I was at a pub. There was no audio, and I was quite a distance away, but all I could see was the CNN logo and some pink and rainbow colored guns. I turned to my friend next to me and said: "I don't know what that story is about, but I can't imagine that it's good". Looks like I was right

[mym1a]

I think in a house with kids those bright colors will be preceived as a toy.I can see your point about having the right to paint your rifle what ever color you want.I just can't see clouding or confusing children or child like adults with whats real and what isn't.(I know i'm going to catch hell for this)!I do respect and agree every law biding citizen( legal citizen) should have the right to posses fire arms!with that said the bottom line is that firearms are a tool of death! yes i know you shoot paper targets hunt or shoot clay birds! but why minimze the lethality of fire arms by painting them the same color and pattern of a childs tricycle?? yes for a bunch of us adults who have been into guns for decades it would be fun to rib your shooting buddy for pulling a pink ar15 out of this gun case would make for some great conversations but lets be mature about this and think about it seriously???

[Bravo]

I agree Mym1a, but that goes for every weapon. Today, lots of black guns look like toy guns. As far as I'm concerned, no gun should be left out within reach of any child. If a child is in the house, or anyone that doesn't know about guns, lock them up.

[mym1a]

Originally Posted by Bravo

I agree Mym1a, but that goes for every weapon. Today, lots of black guns look like toy guns. As far as I'm concerned, no gun should be left out within reach of any child. If a child is in the house, or anyone that doesn't know about guns, lock them up.

I agree with you completely and wouldn't want to see so called black guns baned or any other fire arm banned but seriously encouraging pink guns with pony's and hearts on it pushed the limit.It is funny around experienced shooters but we are also dealing with the non shooting public who are scared to death of guns, brightly colored fire arms to me any way shows a lack of responsibilty.many gun folks might say the hell with those that don't own guns! well thats fine and dandy however these folks do vote! and if any future gun laws or ammendments should ever come up with a referendum you might want them on your side ???????

[samuel]

Originally Posted by mym1a

I have joked about this before, but on a serious level I have to agree guns should remain looking like guns and for once the politicians are right about this, let them pass that law and give them the illusion that they are doing something.

They are doing something!They are banning a firearm that you or some other law abiding citizen owns legally under the protection of the second ammendment to the constitution of the United States of America.Where in the second ammendment does it specify what color a firearm can or can't be??? sam.

[mym1a]

Originally Posted by samuel

They are doing something!They are banning a firearm that you or some other law abiding citizen owns legally onder the protection of the second ammendment to the constitution of the United States of America.Where in the second ammendment does it specify what color a firearm can or can't be??? sam.

you know sam you have a point to a certain degree camo or black what ever subdued practical colors are fine with me, but going on and on about the second ammendment in regards to this matter just sound ilresponsible to me. this inability to use common sence is whats driving the nanny state! instead of us taking responsibilty and policing our selves some one else will and we won't like it!!!

Originally Posted by dhermesc

I think "pink" guns should be banned too, but I think it should be done with industry standards - not government regulations.

Local shop has a nice Ruger stainless 10/22 with a pink laminated stock on it, its been on for two years now.

I agree completely unfortunately when manufactures and gun owners throw common sence out the window some one else will step in and make it worse. to a certain degree toy makers have a responsibilty also with this matter.

[samuel]

MyM1A:Then you believe caving in to gun grabbers and forgetting the 2nd ammendment is the way to preserve our gun rights?

[mym1a]

Originally Posted by samuel

They are doing something!They are banning a firearm that you or some other law abiding citizen owns legally under the protection of the second ammendment to the constitution of the United States of America.Where in the second ammendment does it specify what color a firearm can or can't be??? sam.

from what i've read on this thread if they do ban them it will be because of the bright colors and decalls placed on them. see you just made my point sam if we don't police our selves and show responsibilty and common sence some one else will ! and now there wanting to pass more laws to probably include other measures

[MrsS]

I can't give any opinions about toy guns for I personally do not allow my 4 year old from having toy guns;(can't say whether that rule extends to his Papa's home); I & my husband choosing to not allow him to have toy guns was so he would truly be aware of what guns are....a deadly weapon not to be trifled with until he is old enough to be taught responsible gun ownership. He is aware of the guns we have, what they look like; he has held them with our supervision (empty of course)and that they are locked up...he is also aware that a pink gun (seen some Taurus's with the pink grips!) is still a gun. Banning firearms of any type/style isn't necessarily the solution; education and personal accountability would be the more appropriate step to take. That's just my opinion/feedback. Thanks.

[mym1a]

you want to talk about the 2nd ammendment?okay sam 2nd ammendment also mentions we the people are the miltia and enjoy the right to posses firearms comperable to that of a standing army, please show me were the us military has in its inventory any pink rifles with decals of ponys, hearts and other child like cosmetics on them?If they do please show me ?

Originally Posted by MrsS

I can't give any opinions about toy guns for I personally do not allow my 4 year old from having toy guns;(can't say whether that rule extends to his Papa's home); I & my husband choosing to not allow him to have toy guns was so he would truly be aware of what guns are....a deadly weapon not to be trifled with until he is old enough to be taught responsible gun ownership. He is aware of the guns we have, what they look like; he has held them with our supervision (empty of course)and that they are locked up...he is also aware that a pink gun (seen some Taurus's with the pink grips!) is still a gun. Banning firearms of any type/style isn't necessarily the solution; education and personal accountability would be the more appropriate step to take. That's just my opinion/feedback. Thanks.

I agree commpletely I was never allowed to have a toy gun but did shoot real guns before i could ride a bike and received a 22 rifle on my 8th birthday.

[GlockMeister]

Saw that same thing on HNN yesterday. Talked about it a little in the chat room. HNN said the Hello Kitty people are filing a suit or an injunction against the person whose site had the pictures. As I said in the chat room. Not a single person mentioned the pink camo or pink ones with even the Hello Kitty on them were probably aimed at the now many women shooters out there. Not even the guy named Larry something (I forget his last name) from Guns America I think it was. No one else even mentioned it was kind of an ad for Duracoat firearm paint finishes.

I would also say the news anchor that reported it on HNN, simply did it as a story. He didn't seem to attack anyone or point fingers. This guy just had a problem in the fact the cool designs would attract little boys and the pretty pink designs and colors might attract little girls. Also said don't try to make them look like toys or something they're not.

My honest opinion, most law-abiding responsible gun owners are going to have any and all firearms locked up or have a trigger lock on them no matter what the color is. Painting them any color isn't going to make them shoot any different. It sure as hell won't make a semi-auto shoot full -auto.

But some ignorant politician, like McCarthy, who started the HR1022 ban proposal and doesn't have a clue would probably think that and try and sell it to other ignorant politicians, and some would listen. Remember, this is the same ignorant Democrat that thinks a heat shield on a firearm, which is also a kind on this proposed ban list, is something that goes over the shoulder as mentioned in the You Tube on another thread on here. lol

But seriously, how long have firearms been being painted up like this? And they're just now noticing it? Gimme a break.

[RockB]

They just like to pass laws to justify their existence.

In Florida there is a law 790.145
790.145 Crimes in pharmacies; possession of weapons; penalties.--
(1) Unless otherwise provided by law, any person who is in possession of a concealed "firearm," as defined in s. 790.001(6), or a "destructive device," as defined in s. 790.001(4), within the premises of a "pharmacy," as defined in chapter 465, is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(2) The provisions of this section do not apply:
(a) To any law enforcement officer;
(b) To any person employed and authorized by the owner, operator, or manager of a pharmacy to carry a firearm or destructive device on such premises; or
(c) To any person licensed to carry a concealed weapon.

But 790.01 already exists
790.01 Carrying concealed weapons.

(1) Except as provided in subsection (4), a person who carries a concealed weapon or electric weapon or device on or about his or her person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(2) A person who carries a concealed firearm on or about his or her person commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(3) This section does not apply to a person licensed to carry a concealed weapon or a concealed firearm pursuant to the provisions of s. 790.06.
(4) It is not a violation of this section for a person to carry for purposes of lawful self-defense, in a concealed manner:
(a) A self-defense chemical spray.
(b) A nonlethal stun gun or remote stun gun or other nonlethal electric weapon or device which does not fire a dart or projectile and is designed solely for defensive purposes.
(5) This section does not preclude any prosecution for the use of an electric weapon or device or remote stun gun or self-defense chemical spray during the commission of any criminal offense under s. 790.07, s. 790.10, s. 790.23, or s. 790.235, or for any other criminal offense.

Really, What is the point. So someone carrying concealed in a pharmacy without a CCW can be charged with violating two laws instead of one.

[MrsS]

Hey Glockmeister...you just gave me a roll call for the women's shooter forum....will have to see how many female gun owners/shooters out there would own a gun with hello Kitty, smiley, etc. As for this woman.....nah, no hello kitty for me...I'm not out there toting guns for its color or looks....I'm a gun carrier for protection! Pink camo or hearts adorning a gun would not lessen my fear for them, nor would the pretty colors/design make me a more confident/better shooter. Again, that's my personal opinion.

[mym1a]

Originally Posted by samuel

MyM1A:Then you believe caving in to gun grabbers and forgetting the 2nd ammendment is the way to preserve our gun rights?

no sam I don't agree with anyone taking away your right my right or any body elses right to own any fire arm. what I am saying and i would think you would agree with?with firearms comes a great responsibilty that only police and the military share with us or should i say we share with them?every time some one shows a lack of responsibilty and or common sence involving guns it throws all of us into a very negative spot.I don't like the idea of the government getting involved with regulating any fire arm however when you exercise poor judgement and refuse to police your self??? others will and usualy take it beyond the original complaint.

I don't know how else to explain it ???????im open for debate tho??????????