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Old 02-24-2008, 12:55 PM   #1
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Exclamation Canada, U.S. Agree To Use Each Other's Troops In Civil Emergencies

Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

David Pugliese
Canwest News
Saturday, February 23, 2008

Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.

Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.

The U.S. military's Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.

The new agreement has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.

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The left-leaning Council of Canadians, which is campaigning against what it calls the increasing integration of the U.S. and Canadian militaries, is raising concerns about the deal.

"It's kind of a trend when it comes to issues of Canada-U.S. relations and contentious issues like military integration. We see that this government is reluctant to disclose information to Canadians that is readily available on American and Mexican websites," said Stuart Trew, a researcher with the Council of Canadians.

Trew said there is potential for the agreement to militarize civilian responses to emergency incidents. He noted that work is also underway for the two nations to put in place a joint plan to protect common infrastructure such as roadways and oil pipelines.

"Are we going to see (U.S.) troops on our soil for minor potential threats to a pipeline or a road?" he asked.

Trew also noted the U.S. military does not allow its soldiers to operate under foreign command so there are questions about who controls American forces if they are requested for service in Canada. "We don't know the answers because the government doesn't want to even announce the plan," he said.

But Canada Command spokesman Commander David Scanlon said it will be up to civilian authorities in both countries on whether military assistance is requested or even used.

He said the agreement is "benign" and simply sets the stage for military-to-military co-operation if the governments approve.

"But there's no agreement to allow troops to come in," he said. "It facilitates planning and co-ordination between the two militaries. The 'allow' piece is entirely up to the two governments."

If U.S. forces were to come into Canada they would be under tactical control of the Canadian Forces but still under the command of the U.S. military, Scanlon added.
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:50 PM   #2
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Is anyone else out there looking at this new treaty with as jaundiced an eye as I am?
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:57 PM   #3
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well I thought it would be under the un? but sure canada! american military would probably not shoot their own, unless fired upon first! makes sence our government would pull this stunt, surprised the mexican army isn't in on this one???
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Old 02-24-2008, 06:59 PM   #4
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You have to remember last summer when Bush, the Mexican leader and the Canadian leader met and were dicussing open boarders, this could just be a part of what when on in thoes meetings. What scares more than anything is the Nafta Super Highway that will go from the seaside of Mexico through the US and into Canada. Last year in this area a talk show couple was beating that subject hard. Google Nafta Super Highway.Com and read what is going to happen to our country.

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You have to remember last summer when Bush, the Mexican leader and the Canadian leader met and were dicussing open boarders, this could just be a part of what when on in thoes meetings. What scares more than anything is the Nafta Super Highway that will go from the seaside of Mexico through the US and into Canada. Last year in this area a talk show couple was beating that subject hard. Google Nafta Super Highway.Com and read what is going to happen to our country.

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Old 02-24-2008, 07:02 PM   #6
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I think the super highway is a bad idea, but in these times, when our military is spread oh so thin, I think it's a great idea to take advantage of the Canadian military. I hope they don't expect a whole lot of support from us though...

Seriously though, this wouldn't be a problem if we weren't busy occupying the world.
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Old 02-24-2008, 07:08 PM   #7
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foreign troops on our soil?? my my we haven't experienced that in almost 2 centuries? why it sounds like treason to me ???????

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I think the super highway is a bad idea, but in these times, when our military is spread oh so thin, I think it's a great idea to take advantage of the Canadian military. I hope they don't expect a whole lot of support from us though...

Seriously though, this wouldn't be a problem if we weren't busy occupying the world.
don't you think this is all by design??? create a problem so you can apply a solution???

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Old 02-24-2008, 07:17 PM   #8
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I guess I don't get it. What problem do you think they're trying to create?
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Old 02-24-2008, 07:51 PM   #9
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I guess I don't get it. What problem do you think they're trying to create?
If the government lets say wanted to take your guns, there would be some concern if our troops would be willing to take up arms against the very people they are suppose to protect, by having a foreign force to up hold any new edicts on our soil they would be less likely to disobey what ever orders are given, the great excuse for the government to not use our own troops is to say they are all to busy fighting a war over seas? you don't see that ? I believe the russians and germans used troops from different areas to quell potential problems with the local population.

becareful what you ask for you might just get it !!!!!!!

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This is not good we can Police our selves and the American public should of been asked.
There are all kinds of emergencys and what if there were some kind of civil unrest and here comes the Canadians.
As some of you have already thought they could shoot us where it would be against our constitution for American soldiers to do that.

Somebody please tell me what in the Hell is going on with our Federal Goverment !!!
We talk about a lot of stuff here. You would think there out to crush us or sometrhing.
Is it just me ? Surely I'm wrong but I smell a RAT !

If any country's Army ever sets foot on our soil other than may be lend a hand with a disaster is that a violation of our Constitution ?
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It will be something big enough for the Govt. to declare Martial Law and ask Canadian Troops to help disarm the civilians. When the shooting and killing begin our American Troops will be called to support the Canadians who are under fire. Then the Civil War will begin. I don't like this treaty and I don't like President Bush being able to set aside "Posse Comitus''. I fear bad times are coming quickly. And A.H. if I understand it correctly with Posse Comitus set aside our troops can be ordered to fire on American Citizens.
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Old 02-24-2008, 08:06 PM   #12
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It will be something big enough for the Govt. to declare Martial Law and ask Canadian Troops to help disarm the civilians. When the shooting and killing begin our American Troops will be called to support the Canadians who are under fire. Then the Civil War will begin. I don't like this treaty and I don't like President Bush being able to set aside "Posse Comitus''. I fear bad times are coming quickly.


yes sir I don't see any good coming out of this !
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Buy a lot of Ammo and see that your family is well taken care of because I smell a RAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-24-2008, 08:15 PM   #14
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Buy a lot of Ammo and see that your family is well taken care of because I smell a RAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you got that right

our fore fathers are probably spining 1,000 rpms in their graves screaming stop it stop it!!

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yes and the stench is coming off the patomic river!!
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I can't believe that the Canadians would agree to this...Are they trying to get all of their soldiers Killed ? True Americans wouldn't stand for this, but hey after we whooped em, we could Take Canada !!! Easily !
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Old 02-24-2008, 08:39 PM   #18
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Thumbs down

They'll find out damn quick what it's like to be on the receiving end of an American can of "whoop-azz"!!!
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I deleted part of my first post because I felt it would be taken wrong, But it was similer to what Prof. Moose and Bro. Bob said.
I would consider them an envading Army.
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:03 PM   #20
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I see no real proof that a treaty has been made and have heard nothing about it.Until someone posts the treaty or someplace to verify it I will consider this another blog with no verifiable credentials.Sorry men,it takes proof to get me excited.I just googled canwest news and there is nothing but an emblem and name.I still dont know anything that would substantiate this. sam.

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