Old 03-04-2008, 04:13 PM   #1
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Question M44 + ATI Stock = Bedding issues?

I got the ATI stock for my Hungarian 53 M44 I was just wondering if anyone has had any problems with the bedding? I know I saw that someone said earlier in some post on some forum, that they had issues with this.

And if it does sit lose or has a problem how easy is it to bed, and will that make the weapon dangerous? If it needs bedding does that make the stock un-detachable?

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Old 03-04-2008, 04:16 PM   #2
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:20 PM   #3
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The receiver should be a pretty close fit and your screws should align properly. The barrel should not touch preferably. Others here have used these stocks and I will let them go through the details.
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:27 PM   #4
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Quote:       Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter View Post
Please call ATI ...A.H
I did ATI Quote:

"The Monte Carlo Stock for Mosin Nagant, will fit your 1953 Hungarian without any problems."

Sure hope I don't have to return anything.

Thanks steve i'm not to worried about it just makin sure I don't have any safety issues.
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:58 PM   #5
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Never had any issue with the Monte Carlo stock that my husband put on my M44. Didn't have to bed it or anything, just tightened the screws and took it shooting. I've had that stock for about a year and a half and have never had any problems.

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Old 03-05-2008, 01:39 AM   #6
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Never had any issue with the Monte Carlo stock that my husband put on my M44. Didn't have to bed it or anything, just tightened the screws and took it shooting. I've had that stock for about a year and a half and have never had any problems.

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Old 03-05-2008, 06:10 AM   #7
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i got the ati stock for my 91/30 a little less than a month ago and it fit like a glove.....until i took it apart and then the i had file a couple things to get everything right. I think its hit and miss with those stocks, sometimes your gun just fits in it, and ive also heard of people having to get milled out for a proper fit. on the issue of a "loose fit" i would suggest putting some sort of colored oil on the bottom of the revceiver, seating it in the stock, and see witch peices of plastics the color rubbed off on, then file/mill accordingly. hope this helps!
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Old 03-05-2008, 11:08 AM   #8
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i got the ati stock for my 91/30 a little less than a month ago and it fit like a glove.....until i took it apart and then the i had file a couple things to get everything right. I think its hit and miss with those stocks, sometimes your gun just fits in it, and ive also heard of people having to get milled out for a proper fit. on the issue of a "loose fit" i would suggest putting some sort of colored oil on the bottom of the revceiver, seating it in the stock, and see witch peices of plastics the color rubbed off on, then file/mill accordingly. hope this helps!
Thanks yeedamiah, I didn't really think about just milling or filing myself. Thanks again for the advice.

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Old 03-05-2008, 11:16 AM   #9
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Louie, the Mosin Kahuna at my gun club, has a novel solution to bedding problems. He doesn't free-float the barrels. He says that lets them vibrate too much. Instead, he uses flexible rubber sealant intended for use around windows and bathtubs to bed the stock. He says it allows the barrel to vibrate as Mosin intended, but damps it enough to substantially improve accuracy. As he has a M38 that will put five rounds into a space you can cover with a quarter at 100 meters, I think he's on to something. That sealant could be a solution to the problem of low areas; or if you have to file out spots, of putting in bedding on the synthetic stocks that will increase accuracy.
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Old 03-05-2008, 11:24 AM   #10
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Cyrano, Thanks for posting that info. My sks is loose in the origional stock and in the ATI folder. But one question, will the latex break down with exposure to oils and solvents?
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The way Louie explained it to me, you do have to take care when cleaning. But as long as you aren't slopping it on with a bucket, it will last a good long time. And if/when it does start to break down, simply disassemble the rifle, scrape out the old sealant, let it dry and then put in new before reassembly. That's one virtue of using this gunk; tubes of it don't cost very much at Home Depot or Lowe's. I'll see if I can get the name of what he uses next time I see him.
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Any Bath and Tub latex sealer would work.
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Louie, the Mosin Kahuna at my gun club, has a novel solution to bedding problems. He doesn't free-float the barrels. He says that lets them vibrate too much. Instead, he uses flexible rubber sealant intended for use around windows and bathtubs to bed the stock. He says it allows the barrel to vibrate as Mosin intended, but damps it enough to substantially improve accuracy. As he has a M38 that will put five rounds into a space you can cover with a quarter at 100 meters, I think he's on to something. That sealant could be a solution to the problem of low areas; or if you have to file out spots, of putting in bedding on the synthetic stocks that will increase accuracy.
now thats the first post on bedding that makes sence to me +!
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Free floating allows the barrels harmonics to be mostly unaltered. Embedding gives the barrel a specific harmonic "whip". Both are effected by temp.
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:51 PM   #15
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You can also use clear silicone sealer which is Impervious to most things...Just have the barrel well oiled so it doesnt adhere to the bed of silicone and glue it to the stock...
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:08 PM   #16
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You can also use clear silicone sealer which is Impervious to most things...Just have the barrel well oiled so it doesnt adhere to the bed of silicone and glue it to the stock...
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So you need to make sure that the barrel does not adhere to the stock so much as it rests nicely on top of the silcone/caulk/sealant?

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Old 03-05-2008, 04:04 PM   #17
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???? oil the barrel so the silicone doesn't stick to the barrel.
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Check out this semi-old thread: http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/mos...osin-cork.html
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