Here's The Video All of Us Needs To Watch

Brother Bob · 03-15-2008, 07:14 PM

This is some scary chit!
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2008/03/13/ldt.tucker.govt.guns.cnn

genwinters · 03-15-2008, 07:24 PM

this is ****ed up. this stupid bureaucracy bull****. i am so pissed. how can you charge someone for a mechanical malfunction? its like charging a driver for having their brakes not work in an accident

Brother Bob · 03-15-2008, 07:30 PM

Isn't this what Madhatter was talking about?

ArkansasHunter · 03-15-2008, 07:57 PM

Well it looks like some very bored gummint people had to flex there muscle.
Has the 2nd. part of this story been aired ?
What can we do as law abideing American citicens help our fellow gun owner out.

Can this guy take his case to the sumpreme court if he has too ?

F1609 · 03-15-2008, 08:04 PM

There has to be something to prove that the sear was never tampered with and that it WAS a malfunction.

mosineer · 03-15-2008, 08:12 PM

UGLY!!!

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GlockMeister · 03-15-2008, 08:19 PM

Seems as if everyone except the ATF knows it was a malfunction. I think the ATF knows it, just won't admit it. Trying to try something back door I think. And what's to say the person he loaned it to, didn't mess with it? Maybe someone is out to get him?

BUNCH O BS either way you look at it...

Pred · 03-15-2008, 08:21 PM

This is funny, you all act surprised. Anyone remember the two border patrol agents.. where are they again?

Midas · 03-15-2008, 08:24 PM

Folks, that could any one of us, all it takes is one slip up. This is sickening. Shouldn't they be worried about people that are actually a threat to our security?

ArkansasHunter · 03-15-2008, 08:30 PM

I wonder who ratted on the guy and tipped off the ATF...Is that info in the video, if so i missed it.

Deersniper · 03-15-2008, 08:33 PM

This is the new police state all he wacko's have been talking about for 10 yrs. Instead of a lawyer he should of used a counselor at law and put an interlocutory on the judge for sedition and treason for violating the 2 nd amendment. This should be appealed, and proved by gun experts. This govt is going to make owning a gun so intolerable we will give them up. NOT! We are dealing with communists, here people.

Windwalker · 03-15-2008, 08:34 PM

The first clue to the BATF should have been that 800 rounds were fired on the range before the malfunction occurred. However, on another forum it said that Tucker had been found guilty and was awaiting sentencing.

tf

irish murphy · 03-15-2008, 08:43 PM

That is so bloody ridiculous its not funny.I was on the pistol range during a mid week competition and one of the guys that owns a S&W 422 22lr pistol had something strange happen.As the time started for the match and he brought the pistol up to fire position he then released the slide and away it went.It promptly emptied the 5 rounds in the mag.The owner was shocked and put it away to be taken to the smith for work.Now what i dont understand about the story over there is how did the ATF find out about it?Loose lips sink ships.Some prick dobbed him in.There are a few members in our club that arent liked at all.They should wander off somewhere and die in my opinion.That is why im getting out of pistols and the whole club scene.To many dickheads.

tommy · 03-15-2008, 09:27 PM

all you sks owner's are shitting in your pants right now huh??? lmao man this ain't right at all.the gun malfunctioned but hey this is the ole mighty goverment we talkin about.so we know how many times them sks's have popped off a few double rounds so you guys stay away from the gun ranges with them til they get this straight .

just_a_car · 03-15-2008, 09:57 PM

If I was the guy that had the "malfunction", I would have said "Oh, I was bump-firing it... is that against the rules of this range? Sorry about that, I'll leave." Then go to the friend that loaned it to me, tell him his firearm MUST be looked at by a smith before firing again due to wear or malfunction.

Friends don't rat you out.

SuckLead · 03-15-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by genwinters

this is ****ed up. this stupid bureaucracy bull****. i am so pissed. how can you charge someone for a mechanical malfunction? its like charging a driver for having their brakes not work in an accident

Heh. They do. I had a driver at my last job who was given a ticket for speeding and reckless driving because the van slid more than a block on ice and stopped on the back end of another van. He never went over 10 MPH in a 45 MPH zone.

I am never surprised at what people get charged for. Pissed off. But not surprised.

Brother Bob · 03-16-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckLead

Heh. They do. I had a driver at my last job who was given a ticket for speeding and reckless driving because the van slid more than a block on ice and stopped on the back end of another van. He never went over 10 MPH in a 45 MPH zone.

I am never surprised at what people get charged for. Pissed off. But not surprised.

How does one get a speeding ticket unless the cop was tailing him or shot him with radar? This should be an easy win in court. Your driver did fight this charge??????????

troy2000 · 03-16-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bob

How does one get a speeding ticket unless the cop was tailing him or shot him with radar? This should be an easy win in court. Your driver did fight this charge??????????

If you rear-end someone, it's almost impossible to establish your innocence. I had a friend who was in a 26-car pile-up, and an officer walked down the line writing 25 tickets for reckless driving and following too close. He protested, "I was plenty far back! I stopped in time, and ten cars hit me from behind and pushed me on into the guy ahead of me!"

The officer shrugged and said, "tell it to the judge." He took a day off work to plead innocent and another for a trial, and the judge found him guilty.

Brother Bob · 03-16-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

If you rear-end someone, it's almost impossible to establish your innocence. I had a friend who was in a 26-car pile-up, and an officer walked down the line writing 25 tickets for reckless driving and following too close. He protested, "I was plenty far back! I stopped in time, and ten cars hit me from behind and pushed me on into the guy ahead of me!"

The officer shrugged and said, "tell it to the judge." He took a day off work to plead innocent and another for a trial, and the judge found him guilty.

Jeez! That's a stiff ticket, too! Guess we all need to get legal insurance so we can take an attorney with us when we go to traffic court. What has happened to common sense? You and I both know that there was nothing he could do. Just glad he didn't get hurt or killed.

tommy · 03-16-2008, 09:57 AM

so the guy in the front car can sue every car behind him right???because legally they just kept hitting him and the other cars!!!! the first guy will be richthe last guy will be screwed big time and everyone else in between well all the money the get from sueing they guy who hit them will be takin away by the guy in front of then that they hit so that makes the guy in the front car the lotto winner of the day. thats the american way right???

03-15-2008, 07:14 PM	#1
Brother Bob The Mayor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olive Branch, MS. Posts: 2,691 Blog Entries: 3	Here's The Video All of Us Needs To Watch This is some scary chit! http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2008/03/13/ldt.tucker.govt.guns.cnn __________________ The Most Expensive Commodity In This Country Is Ignorance!

03-15-2008, 07:30 PM	#3
Brother Bob The Mayor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olive Branch, MS. Posts: 2,691 Blog Entries: 3	Isn't this what Madhatter was talking about? __________________ The Most Expensive Commodity In This Country Is Ignorance!

03-15-2008, 08:19 PM	#7
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,513	Seems as if everyone except the ATF knows it was a malfunction. I think the ATF knows it, just won't admit it. Trying to try something back door I think. And what's to say the person he loaned it to, didn't mess with it? Maybe someone is out to get him? BUNCH O BS either way you look at it... __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

03-15-2008, 08:24 PM	#9
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,813 Images: 2 Blog Entries: 6	Folks, that could any one of us, all it takes is one slip up. This is sickening. Shouldn't they be worried about people that are actually a threat to our security? __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

03-15-2008, 08:33 PM	#11
Deersniper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,691	Malfunction This is the new police state all he wacko's have been talking about for 10 yrs. Instead of a lawyer he should of used a counselor at law and put an interlocutory on the judge for sedition and treason for violating the 2 nd amendment. This should be appealed, and proved by gun experts. This govt is going to make owning a gun so intolerable we will give them up. NOT! We are dealing with communists, here people.

03-15-2008, 07:24 PM	#2
genwinters Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Plymouth, MI Posts: 309	this is **ed up. this stupid bureaucracy bull**. i am so pissed. how can you charge someone for a mechanical malfunction? its like charging a driver for having their brakes not work in an accident

03-15-2008, 07:57 PM	#4
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,722	Well it looks like some very bored gummint people had to flex there muscle. Has the 2nd. part of this story been aired ? What can we do as law abideing American citicens help our fellow gun owner out. Can this guy take his case to the sumpreme court if he has too ?

03-15-2008, 08:04 PM	#5
F1609 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 201 Images: 7	There has to be something to prove that the sear was never tampered with and that it WAS a malfunction.

03-15-2008, 08:12 PM	#6
mosineer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 1,299	UGLY!!! *************************************************** All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing**

03-15-2008, 08:21 PM	#8
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	This is funny, you all act surprised. Anyone remember the two border patrol agents.. where are they again?

03-15-2008, 08:30 PM	#10
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,722	I wonder who ratted on the guy and tipped off the ATF...Is that info in the video, if so i missed it.

03-15-2008, 08:34 PM	#12
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,596	The first clue to the BATF should have been that 800 rounds were fired on the range before the malfunction occurred. However, on another forum it said that Tucker had been found guilty and was awaiting sentencing. tf __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

03-15-2008, 08:43 PM	#13
irish murphy Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canberra,Australia Posts: 1,028 Blog Entries: 5	That is so bloody ridiculous its not funny.I was on the pistol range during a mid week competition and one of the guys that owns a S&W 422 22lr pistol had something strange happen.As the time started for the match and he brought the pistol up to fire position he then released the slide and away it went.It promptly emptied the 5 rounds in the mag.The owner was shocked and put it away to be taken to the smith for work.Now what i dont understand about the story over there is how did the ATF find out about it?Loose lips sink ships.Some prick dobbed him in.There are a few members in our club that arent liked at all.They should wander off somewhere and die in my opinion.That is why im getting out of pistols and the whole club scene.To many dickheads.

03-15-2008, 09:27 PM	#14
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,034 Images: 6	all you sks owner's are shitting in your pants right now huh??? lmao man this ain't right at all.the gun malfunctioned but hey this is the ole mighty goverment we talkin about.so we know how many times them sks's have popped off a few double rounds so you guys stay away from the gun ranges with them til they get this straight . __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

03-15-2008, 09:57 PM	#15
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,522	If I was the guy that had the "malfunction", I would have said "Oh, I was bump-firing it... is that against the rules of this range? Sorry about that, I'll leave." Then go to the friend that loaned it to me, tell him his firearm MUST be looked at by a smith before firing again due to wear or malfunction. Friends don't rat you out. __________________

03-16-2008, 09:57 AM	#20
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,034 Images: 6	so the guy in the front car can sue every car behind him right???because legally they just kept hitting him and the other cars!!!! the first guy will be richthe last guy will be screwed big time and everyone else in between well all the money the get from sueing they guy who hit them will be takin away by the guy in front of then that they hit so that makes the guy in the front car the lotto winner of the day. thats the american way right??? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]