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Old 03-17-2008, 01:11 PM   #1
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Disturbing report on Bulgarian spam can heavy ball ammo

I just got off the phone with the shop I buy a lot of my ammo from. I'd read about the Bulgarian spam cans J&G was selling for $43 each (although with shipping added in, although it costs less it's not much less than I pay for 50-packs of 7.62x54R heavy ball here for the same quantity of ammo). The owner said he bought two skids of the stuff, opened some of it for inspection and discovered the cans were rotten, not water and vapor-tight. The ammo inside was corroded. He rejected the shipment and sent it back to whoever he bought it from. (It wasn't J&G; they don't sell the 7.62x54R by the skid.)

Has anyone bought any of this Bulgarian ammo from J&G? If you did, what did you find when you finally got the can open? I don't want to have to deal with corroded, suspect ammunition; so before I place an order that will cost $30 to ship I want to have an idea of what I would be getting.
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Old 03-17-2008, 01:20 PM   #2
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I bought a can of bulgarian 300 from aimsurplus.com paid 40-50 what ever dollars. Can was sealed pretty tight and ammo inside looked good as new. I have not shot it yet Im going this week sometime for my first run, If I have any trouble I'll holler. But my initial inspection this ammo looks as good as it gets. All packed in individual 10ea wrappers tied up with some old string, dry as a bone and no corrotion.
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Old 03-17-2008, 01:23 PM   #3
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I bought one for about 50-60 dollars, The ammo was good as new and shot great.
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:01 PM   #4
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Like theblues, I bought a can fom aimsurplus and have had no problems with the ammo. I tlooked fresh off the assembly line.
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:38 PM   #5
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I just bought some Friday. Only opened one can of the two, and I picked it first because the solder looked split on the lid. It was fine. I posted pic's on this thread:

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/mos...j-g-sales.html
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Old 03-17-2008, 05:11 PM   #6
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I'm pretty sure that J&G inspects their ammo when they receive it. they literally have a ton of it and don't want a 4th of July show in their ammo storage area. They have been in this business for quite a while and I'm sure they plan to stay that way.

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Old 03-17-2008, 05:21 PM   #7
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I just got off the phone with the shop I buy a lot of my ammo from. I'd read about the Bulgarian spam cans J&G was selling for $43 each (although with shipping added in, although it costs less it's not much less than I pay for 50-packs of 7.62x54R heavy ball here for the same quantity of ammo). The owner said he bought two skids of the stuff, opened some of it for inspection and discovered the cans were rotten, not water and vapor-tight. The ammo inside was corroded. He rejected the shipment and sent it back to whoever he bought it from. (It wasn't J&G; they don't sell the 7.62x54R by the skid.)

Has anyone bought any of this Bulgarian ammo from J&G? If you did, what did you find when you finally got the can open? I don't want to have to deal with corroded, suspect ammunition; so before I place an order that will cost $30 to ship I want to have an idea of what I would be getting.
I bought 3 cans of 300 all good ammo light bulgarian ..You will be pleased at how good it looks for being in s sealed can
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:02 PM   #8
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Like theblues, I bought a can fom aimsurplus and have had no problems with the ammo. I tlooked fresh off the assembly line.
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Same here. I just bought two cans from AIM, and they all look brand new! And one of the cans had been opened!
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:10 PM   #9
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Like above. I bought it. Shoot well. Looks good. Ordered more. I can't believe I shot most of it already! I had it less than a month. 300 rounds a month? Dang, that is almost....50 bucks a month on ammo!!
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:52 PM   #10
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and whats wrong with that TEX??????opps maybe I shouldnt talk about how much it cost to shoot wife dont know shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:04 PM   #11
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Like above. I bought it. Shoot well. Looks good. Ordered more. I can't believe I shot most of it already! I had it less than a month. 300 rounds a month? Dang, that is almost....50 bucks a month on ammo!!
50 bucks!?!
holy moly !
it's madness!
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:29 PM   #12
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Like above. I bought it. Shoot well. Looks good. Ordered more. I can't believe I shot most of it already! I had it less than a month. 300 rounds a month? Dang, that is almost....50 bucks a month on ammo!!
But you are now the reincarnation of Vassili Zaitsev... (sorry Vassili)

There is probably a 12 step program that will help make it worse.
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Old 03-18-2008, 01:21 AM   #13
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I bought two cans of Bulgarian 7.62x54R from Sportsman's Guide and the ammo looks brand new. Those stinking cans were a pain in the arse to open though (the pull tabs snapped off).
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Old 03-18-2008, 03:09 AM   #14
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Welome to G&G Tula! I bought 2 cans today. Opened perfectly, stunk pretty bad!
Damn Tuna...
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I bought two cans of Bulgarian 7.62x54R from Sportsman's Guide and the ammo looks brand new. Those stinking cans were a pain in the arse to open though (the pull tabs snapped off).
I think standard operating procedure is to snap the pull tabs off, grab the stub with a pair of needle-nosed pliers, and use them like the key on a sardine can; just start cranking around the can. Worked for me, anyway...except that my pull tab stayed put, so I grabbed it instead of the stub with the pliers.
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But you are now the reincarnation of Vassili Zaitsev... (sorry Vassili)

There is probably a 12 step program that will help make it worse.
There is a program but he has to go to russia to take it LOL
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:41 AM   #17
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Welome to G&G Tula! I bought 2 cans today. Opened perfectly, stunk pretty bad!
Damn Tuna...
Olga, that packed it, must have left you a "special" present.
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:50 AM   #18
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and whats wrong with that TEX??????opps maybe I shouldnt talk about how much it cost to shoot wife dont know shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Now, let's see now...if I am bragging then I would really be saying that I can shoot all day for a small sum.

If I am complaining then it would mean I need to get out and shoot more...

Dang, which one am I doing?????

You are right Billy. It is madness!!!

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But you are now the reincarnation of Vassili Zaitsev... (sorry Vassili)

There is probably a 12 step program that will help make it worse.

I am not even worthy enough to carry his ammo pouch!
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Old 03-18-2008, 10:31 AM   #19
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It is the Cosmoline I tell ya...
I remember the copperwashed Chinese Ammo THAT was good stuff
186 grain boat tail 2860 fps steel core it would go through a car end through end including the engine block.
the VpZ 1988 Soviet heavy Ball was good stuff as well.
the silver tip light ball seems ok now a days. I havent shot the Bulgie stuff is it consistant?
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Old 03-19-2008, 12:52 PM   #20
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1) the sealed tins i got opened fine by clamping down on ring/tab with vice-grips and rotating counter-clockwise, till it unsealed 3 sides, and popped open
2) they were dry inside, but they smelled aweful, lotsa handwashing to get smell off; also the white powder (meant to absorb any moisture i'd guess) gets annoying, i sneeze and room gets cloudy :P
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