[Mike82]

Quote:       Originally Posted by damage855

It works well, I have seen one set up once where the guy removed to sight base then taped and mounted the scope rail where the rear sight was. Look real nice very low profile, if I had a little more metal working capabiltys I would give it a try just a little worried any time I drill into a gun.

Not sure about tapping and mounting a scope rail where sight base was....because there is already a 3/8" rail beneath sight base. Just heat barrel slightly so the silver solder melts away, remove the pins/lock screw (depends on model), and tap base forward till it comes off barrel.... only problem i've seen is when you do that, it sets scope so close to barrel, that not only do you get low-profile look, but it's hard to use a 32mm scope, depends on wall thickness of rear lens housing, because mine won't mount using an NCStar scope without wet sanding a lil spot of housing, cuz it rests on receiver....but NCStar scopes already have too much meat in the housing IMO....gotta be real careful tho, too many vibrations can cause problems, so light scrubbing with 400grit is best....but not saying this is best way to go at it either....luckily the scope is aluminum, so didnt take much scrubbing, might go with slightly taller scope rings later on, the ones i used were vertical split leupold brand, vertical split keeps the scope more true to center of barrel, but is sometimes a pain to get "just right". This is my current sitcheeeation....may be different for you.

PS. I only had to remove about .0005" of the scope metal, so it wouldn't touch receiver....and it was an NCStar 2-7x 32mm scope.

[ronbuick]

I had one of those cheap mounts on my m44, and after several rds., would become loose as a goose, so I spent the xtra $ and got the S&K mount, made in the good ol USA in PA. it is really a nice piece and fits and works great, check them out, I had the really inexpensive ncStar scope on it and bit the dust, it would not zero out after about 20-30 rds. thru it, they are going to replace it free, but does anyone know of a higher quality LER scope, one that allows you to reload with the stripper clips only, thanks.

Ron

[Cyrano]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Geo M44

Just the standard aluminum kit mount. I've found that the majority of people do it wrong (as I did the first time). Done right it works great.

I'd stay away from those ebay aluminum scope mounts. Look up our own jmeck in the Members List. PM him and ask what he's getting for his Mosin scope mounts these days. They're absolutely first rate, pure value for the money. If you're going to scope your Mosin, do it right!

[gandog56]

Does no one but me like Darrell's Scout scope mounts?

[R5CYA]

Quote:       Originally Posted by gandog56

Does no one but me like Darrell's Scout scope mounts?

i love my darrels on my m39!
a huge waste of cash on a 91/30 though. dovetail mounts are the way to go there!

[Mike82]

yeah, i like darrel's also....but like i stated a while back....i can't afford a new mercedes of a mount everytime i buy a ford of a gun.

[gandog56]

Quote:       Originally Posted by R5CYA

i love my darrels on my m39! a huge waste of cash on a 91/30 though. dovetail mounts are the way to go there!

Nah, scope sits too low for me, rather have a scout mount.

[cheapblaster]

Quote:       Originally Posted by gandog56

Does no one but me like Darrell's Scout scope mounts?

Darrels mount, NC 2-7x32 scope, M39 B barrel. This setup is more accurate than I am. Mount holds the scope in place with no problems at all.

[R5CYA]

Quote:       Originally Posted by gandog56

Nah, scope sits too low for me, rather have a scout mount.

too low? use taller rings!

[generoll]

there's an issue that I don't see discussed much with scout scopes, but which I'm slowly working on. Parallax can be a huge problem with these LER scopes. You must have your eye centered exactly behind and in line with the scope for accuracy. This takes practice especially if your scope is too high for a good cheek weld. I had my 91/30 at the range this weekend and noticed that while my vertical dispersion was about 1" at 100 meters (pardon the mixed measuring systems), my lateral dispersion was closer to 6".

I've ordered a lace on cheek piece for my Mosin to see if I can't get this down right. Having to hunt for the proper sight picture each time might work on the bench, but to my mind it basically disqualifies it for hunting or offhand shooting. Using lower magnification reduces the problem, but I don't think it makes it go away.

[R5CYA]

that question came up in the optics forum. i haven't tested it yet, but i don't think it matters if your head is centered. gotta get back to the range and test the theory.

[FortyXDM]

Quote:       Originally Posted by generoll

there's an issue that I don't see discussed much with scout scopes, but which I'm slowly working on. Parallax can be a huge problem with these LER scopes. You must have your eye centered exactly behind and in line with the scope for accuracy. This takes practice especially if your scope is too high for a good cheek weld. I had my 91/30 at the range this weekend and noticed that while my vertical dispersion was about 1" at 100 meters (pardon the mixed measuring systems), my lateral dispersion was closer to 6". I've ordered a lace on cheek piece for my Mosin to see if I can't get this down right. Having to hunt for the proper sight picture each time might work on the bench, but to my mind it basically disqualifies it for hunting or offhand shooting. Using lower magnification reduces the problem, but I don't think it makes it go away.

I might be missing something here, but it sounds like your scope is parallax corrected for a distance other than 100 yd/m.

[generoll]

Quote:       Originally Posted by FortyXDM

I might be missing something here, but it sounds like your scope is parallax corrected for a distance other than 100 yd/m.

I'm guessing that most LER scopes are for pistols and have the parallax set for something other then 100 yards. I'm not sure what the NCStar 2x7 scope is considered, rifle or pistol. I'm guessing that most of the less expensive scopes don't even have an adjustable parallax.

I can tell you that if I hold the rifle steady in a rest and move my head slightly, the crosshairs do move off the target. What I'm trying to do is get my face so that the shadow around the scope disappears and my eye is directly in line with the scope tube. Some of you may be able to do this intuitively. I need a fixed point on the stock where I can rest my cheek and have it come out the same way each time.

[ronbuick]

blaster, by looking at your pics of your gun, it appears that you cannot use the
stripper clips, is that that correct?? what scope and you have the Darell's mount also?? thanks
Ron

[gandog56]

Quote:       Originally Posted by R5CYA

too low? use taller rings!

Tallest rings still don't get it up to comfortable level for me.

[cheapblaster]

Quote:       Originally Posted by ronbuick

blaster, by looking at your pics of your gun, it appears that you cannot use the stripper clips, is that that correct?? what scope and you have the Darell's mount also?? thanks Ron

Yep, it is a Darrels mount. The scope is an NC 2-7x32. Don't have any stripper clips so not sure if the mount would interfere with them. Do know that I mounted the scope a little farther back than is ideal, but with my own inexperience with sighting one in it was a chore and I'm not willing to move it now that I have it zeroed. The mount, by the way, holds zero once you get it there.

[generoll]

Blaster, that's a very nice looking M39. never mind the stripper clips. I'd think that the farther back you can move your scope, the less of an issue parallax would be. no problems with ejected brass hitting the scope?

[ronbuick]

I also have the Ncstar 2x7 mounted on S&K.s mount which allows me to use stripper clips which I highly prefer over loading one at a time, I can load my m44 faster with the clips then you can change mags on a semi-auto or as fast, but it does take a little practice, so try the stripper clips and give them a try, you wont go back to 1 at a time which really is a PITA.

Ron

[gandog56]

Quote:       Originally Posted by ronbuick

I also have the Ncstar 2x7 mounted on S&K.s mount which allows me to use stripper clips which I highly prefer over loading one at a time, I can load my m44 faster with the clips then you can change mags on a semi-auto or as fast, but it does take a little practice, so try the stripper clips and give them a try, you wont go back to 1 at a time which really is a PITA. Ron

I don't know. Since you have to load the stripper clips one at a time anyways, where is your time saving? I can load 5 in the mag about as fast as I can load five in the clip.

But both my Mosins with scope mounts are scout scoped, just because it would be easier to convert back to stock.

[ronbuick]

As you have to load your mags also, I was trying to say mag and clip loaded and ready to R&R, but you loading 5 in the mag and me loading 5 in the clip and then load the weapon, you win.

Ron