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Old 03-23-2008, 10:13 PM   #1
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Another Ammo question.

Ok, so i thought what i have is a batch of Bulgarian light ball. But now im confused, been looking on the ammo id sites and stuff but cant find anything. Now onto ammo description. Im going to describe the Head stamp like a compass North top, south bottom, and so on. Ok N = Star, W = 3, S 50, E = 10

The ammo came in 250 rnd cans. wrapped ten rounds to a paper bundle.
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Old 03-23-2008, 10:51 PM   #2
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Is the bullet tip painted any color? Is it copper washed casings?
With just the headstamp, my guess is 3 is the cyrillic letter Z; 10 meaning Kazanlak Arsenal in Bulgaria; 50 is year of manufacture.
It could also be 3 for Ulyanosk Machinery Plant; 10 for Russia. It is hard to tell with this little information.
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:56 AM   #3
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now I am confused I thought bulgarian was 10???
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Old 03-24-2008, 01:06 AM   #4
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Marion- It is. For ammunition manufactured post 1946. There was a Russian State Arsenal with an unknown location that used the 10 stamp. It ceased operation in 1946. So maybe the 10 stamp was transferred to the bulgarians when they started operation?
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Old 03-24-2008, 01:21 AM   #5
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WOW !! learn something new every day !!
I dont know steve but now you got me curious!!LOL
I bet there is a lotta secret crap we dont know about those ruskies guns and ammo
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Old 03-24-2008, 01:35 AM   #6
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I have been reading on the headstamps. There seems to be a lot of eastern bloc ammo factories that were never named, nor their exact location known, in general. Very interesting stuff! Also, the ID Guide we both know is a work in progress as they state. So I think as more and more of this ammo is found and exported we shall find some interesting stuff out.
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Old 03-24-2008, 05:59 AM   #7
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I saw a old post on another site that was talking about bulgaian and how rare it was to find some now its all over the place so YES timess are changing..gonna be a lotta interesting stuff going on
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Old 03-24-2008, 09:08 AM   #8
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Ok, there is no paint on the bullet. I cannot tell if they are copper washed, how can i tell?i wish i had my camera to take some pictures... the only picture i have is the one with my 91/30 and the ammo boxes do not seem to be clear, but here ya go.


o ya, the packages are either pink in color or blue, not sure if this will help.

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Old 03-24-2008, 10:43 AM   #9
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F1609- Either it is standard brass cartridges, or it is "copper washed", and sort of an off-color. Is the ammo magnetic? The tins look Bulgarian for sure. The other point is, I cannot find anything packed 250 rds per tin. At any rate, I'd save some, as I haven't found any 1950 ammo yet!
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:44 AM   #10
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Ok, there is no paint on the bullet. I cannot tell if they are copper washed, how can i tell?i wish i had my camera to take some pictures... the only picture i have is the one with my 91/30 and the ammo boxes do not seem to be clear, but here ya go.


o ya, the packages are either pink in color or blue, not sure if this will help.
Use a magnet and see if they are magnetic. If so it is copper washed steel, if not it's brass.
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Old 03-24-2008, 11:39 AM   #11
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well found some 250 rounds on AIM but im not sure if it is the same as what I bought. I bought mine at a local gun shop and dont even think the people there had any idea about them. And they are brass.
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:47 PM   #12
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OK, I'll keep looking. This stuff is interesting to me.
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Old 03-24-2008, 01:42 PM   #13
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Well looks like swede's got a new hobby, maybe a new collection going? one round from every factory/year?
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Would you all PLEASE stop talking about different ammo cans, different ammo manufacturers and stuff like that!!! I already have too much ammo and now you all are about to make me buy some more just to get that can with the handle on it! PLEASE!!! I CAN'T CONTOL MYSELF!!!!!
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No collection here! Just curious to the point of bordering on the ridiculous! Hey Tex- Do you have the can with the House of Smirnoff stamp yet?
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Use a magnet and see if they are magnetic. If so it is copper washed steel, if not it's brass.
Its bulgarian!!
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House of Smirnoff Stamp!!!???? WHERE IS MY CREDIT CARD!!!! ORDER IT QUICK!
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Old 03-24-2008, 11:39 PM   #18
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Based on the fact that Yugoslavia collected any type of ammo and packed it into cans, I would have to ask you Marion, how can you say it is Bulgarian?
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Its bulgarian!!
Bulgarian light ball is a copper/steel cartridge. Heavy ball is brass.
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Old 03-25-2008, 01:14 AM   #20
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Bulgarian light ball is a copper/steel cartridge. Heavy ball is brass.
I have bulgarian light ball in the can and its brass!! and the writing on the can is exactly the same as the picture
Head stamp is star on top10 at 3 oclock 52 at 6 oclock and 3 at 9 oclock and it is def Brass but it came to me 300 round cans same markings as his picture ,bought from J&G 3 cans of it
It is 147 grain ..
Bulgarian 1955 7.62x54r Lead Core Light Ball check it out pictures and all
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are you sure it was 250 rnds per can??
Like steve I can find no one that packed it in 250 round cans
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