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Coeloptera · 03-25-2008, 05:44 PM

Man shoots wife while installing satellite TV system : News : KHQA

...is not what was going on here.

"SEDALIA, MO. (AP) -- Officials are trying to decide whether to file charges against a Missouri man who fatally shot his wife while trying to install a satellite TV system in their home.
Thirty-four-year-old Patsy Long of Deep Water was pronounced dead Saturday evening after being shot in the chest with a .22-caliber handgun. Her husband, Ronald Long, fired the shot from the inside of their home after several unsuccessful efforts to punch a hole through the exterior wall using other means."

LarryO1970 · 03-25-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Coeloptera

Man shoots wife while installing satellite TV system : News : KHQA

...is not what was going on here.

"SEDALIA, MO. (AP) -- Officials are trying to decide whether to file charges against a Missouri man who fatally shot his wife while trying to install a satellite TV system in their home.
Thirty-four-year-old Patsy Long of Deep Water was pronounced dead Saturday evening after being shot in the chest with a .22-caliber handgun. Her husband, Ronald Long, fired the shot from the inside of their home after several unsuccessful efforts to punch a hole through the exterior wall using other means."

What a retard.

Rem 742 30-06 · 03-25-2008, 05:50 PM

It takes how much to rent a drill and some drill bits or if it was concrete and he really thought a 22 pistol would have gotten through i think it hit the wrong person.

Coeloptera · 03-25-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rem 742 30-06

It takes how much to rent a drill and some drill bits or if it was concrete and he really thought a 22 pistol would have gotten through i think it hit the wrong person.

The article isn't written very well, but I get the impression it wasn't a ricochet but rather a shot into her from inside.

- Coeloptera

ArkansasHunter · 03-25-2008, 11:37 PM

He should be charged with stupidity............A.H

tlarkin · 03-25-2008, 11:59 PM

He should be charged with 2nd degree murder, because that is what that actually is. I would never discharge a firearm in or near my home unless I felt that I needed to for fear of my own life.

If he is from Sedalia, I guarantee there are enough good ol boys over there that have access to power tools. I bet he could have borrowed one from his neighbor.

AKHunter · 03-26-2008, 12:21 AM

I am not a lawyer but, I believe for 2nd degree murder there must be an intent to kill someone. He should be charged with manslaughter on top of stupidity.Then flogged, beaten and perhaps dragged down a dirt road behind a pickup truck.

tlarkin · 03-26-2008, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AKHunter

I am not a lawyer but, I believe for 2nd degree murder there must be an intent to kill someone. He should be charged with manslaughter on top of stupidity.Then flogged, beaten and perhaps dragged down a dirt road behind a pickup truck.

Actually you are correct and I had my murder laws mixed up, he should be tried for manslaughter.

GlockMeister · 03-26-2008, 01:16 AM

People like this gives all gun owners and guns a black eye. What a moron.

Lng Rng · 03-26-2008, 02:27 AM

He wanted to punch a hole in the wall so he used a rifle?? Hopefully he will get hit with manslaughter charges, most 12 year olds have better problem solving skills than this clown.

Dookiebutt · 03-26-2008, 06:32 AM

Hey honey, can we get satellite TV?

Alleydude · 03-26-2008, 07:05 AM

Long drill bits are cheaper than a jail sentence.

Deersniper · 03-26-2008, 09:42 AM

They said he could drill something with it! .22 will kill something big. He's going to miss her, in that cell.

Bravo · 03-26-2008, 10:10 AM

This guy is an idiot, but he doesn't need a life sentence for what he did. He's going to sit in prison for nearly 20 years, thinking about how stupid he was, and how his wife is never coming back.

That's punishment enough, in my opinion.

Rem 742 30-06 · 03-26-2008, 10:38 AM

Anybody think the lawyer could get him off on insanity

Bravo · 03-26-2008, 10:50 AM

If they don't, they might be able to with an appeal after he goes insane in prison.

troy2000 · 03-26-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bravo

This guy is an idiot, but he doesn't need a life sentence for what he did. He's going to sit in prison for nearly 20 years, thinking about how stupid he was, and how his wife is never coming back.

That's punishment enough, in my opinion.

He'll probably spend a year or two at most, Bravo. It was hardly premeditated murder, and they'll cut what sentence he does get for good behavior. He may even get probation, depending on what they charge him with.

On the brighter side: since his mate is dead, he won't be able to breed and pass on his 'stupid' gene until he finds another one...

Mad Hatter · 03-26-2008, 12:34 PM

Almost hard to believe someone could be that stupid.. Maybe the guy should be let off because of mental defectiveness..

mdj696 · 03-26-2008, 01:42 PM

Corpus delecti. Body of the crime. From what I read, its missing intent, thats what investigations are for, homicide is killing of one person by another. if there was no intent it would be ruled accidental. This world is full of stupidity. Yet theres no law against being stupid. Involuntary Manslaughter is accidental death with no intent of commiting a homicide. Like a bar fight without weapons. Voluntary manslaughter would be like a bar fight with weapons where a homicide could occur. Now negligent homicide was be an appropiate charge for civil court only.

tlarkin · 03-26-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mdj696

Corpus delecti. Body of the crime. From what I read, its missing intent, thats what investigations are for, homicide is killing of one person by another. if there was no intent it would be ruled accidental. This world is full of stupidity. Yet theres no law against being stupid. Involuntary Manslaughter is accidental death with no intent of commiting a homicide. Like a bar fight without weapons. Voluntary manslaughter would be like a bar fight with weapons where a homicide could occur. Now negligent homicide was be an appropiate charge for civil court only.

Your fists can count as weapons.

03-25-2008, 05:44 PM	#1
Coeloptera Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,885	The right tool...for the right job... Man shoots wife while installing satellite TV system : News : KHQA ...is not what was going on here. "SEDALIA, MO. (AP) -- Officials are trying to decide whether to file charges against a Missouri man who fatally shot his wife while trying to install a satellite TV system in their home. Thirty-four-year-old Patsy Long of Deep Water was pronounced dead Saturday evening after being shot in the chest with a .22-caliber handgun. Her husband, Ronald Long, fired the shot from the inside of their home after several unsuccessful efforts to punch a hole through the exterior wall using other means."

03-26-2008, 01:16 AM	#9
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03-26-2008, 09:42 AM	#13
Deersniper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,688	Right tool They said he could drill something with it! .22 will kill something big. He's going to miss her, in that cell.

03-26-2008, 01:42 PM	#19
mdj696 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 265 Images: 1	Corpus delecti. Body of the crime. From what I read, its missing intent, thats what investigations are for, homicide is killing of one person by another. if there was no intent it would be ruled accidental. This world is full of stupidity. Yet theres no law against being stupid. Involuntary Manslaughter is accidental death with no intent of commiting a homicide. Like a bar fight without weapons. Voluntary manslaughter would be like a bar fight with weapons where a homicide could occur. Now negligent homicide was be an appropiate charge for civil court only. Last edited by mdj696; 03-26-2008 at 01:47 PM. Reason: additional info

03-25-2008, 05:50 PM	#3
Rem 742 30-06 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Wisconsin Posts: 390	It takes how much to rent a drill and some drill bits or if it was concrete and he really thought a 22 pistol would have gotten through i think it hit the wrong person.

03-25-2008, 11:37 PM	#5
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,709	He should be charged with stupidity............A.H

03-25-2008, 11:59 PM	#6
tlarkin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,581	He should be charged with 2nd degree murder, because that is what that actually is. I would never discharge a firearm in or near my home unless I felt that I needed to for fear of my own life. If he is from Sedalia, I guarantee there are enough good ol boys over there that have access to power tools. I bet he could have borrowed one from his neighbor.

03-26-2008, 12:21 AM	#7
AKHunter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 899	I am not a lawyer but, I believe for 2nd degree murder there must be an intent to kill someone. He should be charged with manslaughter on top of stupidity.Then flogged, beaten and perhaps dragged down a dirt road behind a pickup truck.

03-26-2008, 02:27 AM	#10
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 944	He wanted to punch a hole in the wall so he used a rifle?? Hopefully he will get hit with manslaughter charges, most 12 year olds have better problem solving skills than this clown.

03-26-2008, 06:32 AM	#11
Dookiebutt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: America's North Coast Posts: 1,163	Hey honey, can we get satellite TV?

03-26-2008, 10:10 AM	#14
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,897	This guy is an idiot, but he doesn't need a life sentence for what he did. He's going to sit in prison for nearly 20 years, thinking about how stupid he was, and how his wife is never coming back. That's punishment enough, in my opinion.

03-26-2008, 10:38 AM	#15
Rem 742 30-06 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Wisconsin Posts: 390	Anybody think the lawyer could get him off on insanity

03-26-2008, 10:50 AM	#16
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,897	If they don't, they might be able to with an appeal after he goes insane in prison.

03-26-2008, 12:34 PM	#18
Mad Hatter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 615	Almost hard to believe someone could be that stupid.. Maybe the guy should be let off because of mental defectiveness..