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Old 03-29-2008, 05:05 PM   #1
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Here a stupid question

I know you guys are going to get tired of my questions.

How do you tell if a case is reloadable. I'm not talking about looking for splits or cracks. Lets say you are at the range and pick a casing off the ground what do you look at to see if it can be reprimed and that type of stuff...........sorry still new to this
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Old 03-29-2008, 05:23 PM   #2
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Look in the neck at the bottom of the case.If you see one hole in the center it is reloadable.If you see two holes spread apart it is berdan,and not reloadable. sam.
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Old 03-29-2008, 05:29 PM   #3
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Thanks thats was exactly what i was wondering. I really appreciate all the great advise on here.
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Old 03-29-2008, 06:13 PM   #4
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Thanks thats was exactly what i was wondering. I really appreciate all the great advise on here.
If you're new to reloading ask all the questions you want, there's a lot of things a beginner needs to know that may be hard to come by if you don't have any help getting started. I was lucky to have a few friends that got me into the hobby and showed me the basics.
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Old 03-29-2008, 08:22 PM   #5
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thats not a stupid question.
ive got that market cornered!

i am the only person i have ever seen reload.
thats why i dont know anything.
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Old 03-29-2008, 08:42 PM   #6
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Look in the neck at the bottom of the case.If you see one hole in the center it is reloadable.If you see two holes spread apart it is berdan,and not reloadable. sam.
That is good advice, but not 100% true.

Berdan can be reloaded, it's just a pain in the butt and takes a lot more time and money. You have to get creative to remove the primer and/or use a berdan primer removal tool. Then, you have to find berdan primers that are in stock to reload the round with. If you don't want to find them... or can't, then you have to drill out the two flash holes into one big flash hole and then you can just use the regular boxer primers.

So, on a practical stance, you can look at them as 'reloadable' and 'non-reloadable', but it really matters on how much effort, money and time you want to put into it.
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:19 PM   #7
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i looked into reloading berdan.
it is so labor intensive and primers are so hard to find that for me they are not reloadable.
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:30 PM   #8
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my advice to you is take all the cases burdan or not then at home you seperate them a ice cream bucket of junk brass is worth 75.00 in scrap and alot more free reload supplys on your bench
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i looked into reloading berdan.
it is so labor intensive and primers are so hard to find that for me they are not reloadable.
Which is exactly what I said.
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:47 PM   #10
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Look in the neck at the bottom of the case.If you see one hole in the center it is reloadable.If you see two holes spread apart it is berdan,and not reloadable. sam.

I'm afraid you are not right. Berdan cases are reloadable. It does take a special tool to de-prime them which is a pain in the you know where. I reload Kynoch cases for my 450 all the time.
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Old 03-29-2008, 10:15 PM   #11
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Also take a magnet, if the cases are steel throw them, only load brass. The steel's only good for one loading, they crack and split easy. The other guy's are right berdan is a pain to load and hard to find primers I was going to try and gave up. You can get real brass for almost any caliber. ( except I've been waiting 4 months for 8mm lebel revolver they are always out)
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Which is exactly what I said.
ok smartypants.
did you know that berdan was invented by an american and boxer by an englishman?
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There are no stupid questions when it comes to reloading, I asked a whole bunch of questions when I started. I had my buddies who had loaded for awhile look at my finished rounds etc and glad I did. The first round I made I had a friend look at and glad I did as I seated the bullet way too deep. It just proves that you are considering safety first for yourself and others.
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:14 PM   #14
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ok smartypants.
did you know that berdan was invented by an american and boxer by an englishman?
Yes.

Did you know that many cases became non-reloadable faster "in the old days" due to Fulminating Mercury in the primer amalgamating with the brass and making it brittle?
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:31 PM   #15
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That is good advice, but not 100% true.

Berdan can be reloaded, it's just a pain in the butt and takes a lot more time and money. You have to get creative to remove the primer and/or use a berdan primer removal tool. Then, you have to find berdan primers that are in stock to reload the round with. If you don't want to find them... or can't, then you have to drill out the two flash holes into one big flash hole and then you can just use the regular boxer primers.

So, on a practical stance, you can look at them as 'reloadable' and 'non-reloadable', but it really matters on how much effort, money and time you want to put into it.
What I wrote wasnt exactly true!!! I had the knowledge to get stupid and write:'yes,you can reload berdan cases,'but' it takes a special tool and about ten minutes to deprime and resize a case provided you dont break the special tool,and then there is a good chance you will never find a new primer to replace the old one but you can keep moving the deprimed cases around until you finally get the primers.Somehow,at the time I didnt see any benefit in saying that to someone that seemed knowledible enough to already,on his own,class berdan as non-reloadable. Now I have posted it,just to please someone that had never done it but read that it was possible.I really should try harder.Sorry about the major slip. sam.
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Yes.

Did you know that many cases became non-reloadable faster "in the old days" due to Fulminating Mercury in the primer amalgamating with the brass and making it brittle?
i cant even spell percolatin mercury.
stop pickin on me!
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Yes.

Did you know that many cases became non-reloadable faster "in the old days" due to Fulminating Mercury in the primer amalgamating with the brass and making it brittle?
It isn't 'fulminating mercury,it is 'mercury mulminate',the explosive salts extracted from mercury,the explosive part. sam.
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It isn't 'fulminating mercury,it is 'mercury mulminate',the explosive salts extracted from mercury,the explosive part. sam.
We're both right, mine is the "common" term, your's is the chemist's/scientific term (which I should have used, since I'm a chemist, but most people on this board aren't).

Mine: fulminating mercury - Definitions from Dictionary.com
Your's: Mercury(II) fulminate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
See? Same thing.

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i cant even spell percolatin mercury.
stop pickin on me!
Hey... you started with the smartypants.
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Old 03-30-2008, 11:12 AM   #19
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I know you guys are going to get tired of my questions.

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Old 03-30-2008, 11:59 AM   #20
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JAC:Yeah,but me being 'common'think I know what I am talking about.You being a chemist have to research it.I believe it is better to not be smart,or,"ignorance is bliss".By the way,I believe the original term was fulminate of mercury,not that it makes any difference,they all three go bang when excited. sam.
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