What can ya'll tell me about these rifles.
What kind of reputation do they have?
Are they any good?
do they shoot well?
and anything else you can think of......
Thanks
They are overpriced. They retail around 700 bucks. Too much for a commercial carbine.
Reputation is mixed. The May issue of Guns & Weapons for Law Enforcement magazine thinks they are the greatest. Most carbine owners and collectors, including myself, think they are at best a niche product specifically for the person who needs a shiney new carbine with no regard for history or collectors value.
I have heard they shoot pretty well. The barrel is made by Green Mt. barrels and they make a nice one.
Are they any good? I've never owned one and never will.
Ditto.
I've seen them selling, well being offered, at $799...way much when I can get a classy little guy with alot of history from CMP for $300 cheaper.
I've talked to several owners and they seem to like them and they claim to shoot well.
Yep, reviews are mixed for the most part.
I have one, and it's got feeding problems. Cannot fire 2 in a row. Only way to reach customer service is by e-mail and hope they reply before you die of old age.
I have one for sale if anyone is interested.
Seriously, don't waste your money. A buddy has an Auto Ordnance 1911 and it has issues also.
It does have georgeous wood, though.
CMP is probably the way to go, but I'm just getting back into this (shooting) after years of absence. I have to meet all the requirements (CMP) first, so I hope they will have some left in three or four months.
Thanks for all the advice.
I have both. I shoot the Auto Ordinance and admire my Inland. The Inland is a beautiful '44 and I fired it only once after getting it from CMP and hung it up for posterity. I had to send the AO back to the factory for a minor ejection problem, and while they were a bit slow I got back a fantastic shooter, thanks I guess because of some personal attention by their armorer. The rifle to me is worth the nearly $700 I paid for it because I can shoot a carbine while preserving some history. Also, I had complained to Auto Ordinance about the crappy new made mag that came with their carbine and they sent me two excellent GI's, which is a marvel because of their location in the Socialist Republic of Massachusetts. Not that they sent them, but they actually touched a 15 rounder in that Kennedy, Kerry anti everything world.
The M1 carbine is a niche product for those who enjoy guns of the WW2
period. In a practical sense it does not have the best of cartridges for
combat, personal defense, or target work. Personally, I think $700.00 could go for a more useful, accurate gun in a better caliber. But, if WW2 is your thing, a new gun operating correctly just might bring a lot of happiness. I have been told by others AO got off to a rough start buying parts from a large number of suppliers but things are getting dramatically
better in the quality control area.
I like it, it shoots great, it will put an entire magazine into a 3" circle at 50 yds. I have not had one problem yet, but I have only shot maybe 200-250 rds through it.
I didn't buy it for any purpose, just to have and shoot, I collect ww2 guns and wanted something new to go with my new M1 garand I purchased a few years ago when springfield made that special run of .30-06's and .308's.
CMP is probably the way to go, but I'm just getting back into this (shooting) after years of absence. I have to meet all the requirements (CMP) first, so I hope they will have some left in three or four months.
Thanks for all the advice.
They will have some left. The easiest way to meet the requirements, if you are NOT already a member of a shooting club and have met the proficientcy requirements, is to join the Garand Collectors Association (GCA) to fulfill club membership and apply for and receive your 03 FFL C&R Curious & Relics license. This will fulfill your shooting requirement. Or, if you live in a state that requires a concealed carry permit and most do(Except Vermont & Alaska) that will do. I live in Vermont so I need no carry permit so I use the C&R. GCA membership $25 bucks a year, C&R license $30 bucks for 3 years. Both well worth the money.
Oh, by the way, if you are 60 and over you only need club membership.
Go to Home, click on the M1 Downloads tab, CMP.pdf and dowload the instructions and forms. Good Luck.
They will have some left. The easiest way to meet the requirements, if you are NOT already a member of a shooting club and have met the proficientcy requirements, is to join the Garand Collectors Association (GCA) to fulfill club membership and apply for and receive your 03 FFL C&R Curious & Relics license. This will fulfill your shooting requirement. Or, if you live in a state that requires a concealed carry permit and most do(Except Vermont & Alaska) that will do. I live in Vermont so I need no carry permit so I use the C&R. GCA membership $25 bucks a year, C&R license $30 bucks for 3 years. Both well worth the money.
Oh, by the way, if you are 60 and over you only need club membership.
Go to Home, click on the M1 Downloads tab, CMP.pdf and dowload the instructions and forms. Good Luck.
Thanks MrJitters.... and all.... I appreciate all the good advice
by the way..It will be a few years before the 60th Birthday Party
I'll tell you about my experience with the AO carbine. Bought one a few weeks ago for $720. Appearance is very nice, stock is beatiful, I couldn't wait to shoot it. Took the gun to the range, fired 50 rounds Remington factory ammo, 10 FTF from light primer strikes. Also, at 100 yards I couldn't even hit the paper target, rounds were hitting over a foot low and slightly to the right. When I got home I dropped in a laser bore sight and the laser was level and slightly to the right. What would cause such a drop at 100 yards? The receiver also was very loose in the stock and couln't be tightened. Last Thursday I returned the gun to the store and they shipped it back to the factory. I hope they make this right because I am very disappointed with the quality of this firearm.
I cant understand why people pay more for a commercial carbine with very little resale value when you can get the real deal for less money and it will only increase in value
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I have one and bought it because I carried one in Korea in 1952 and wanted one for memory sake. Furthermore I can shoot it at our indoor range and I can reload it without too much trouble.
When I got it there were two problems. First the slide could not be locked back and secondly the receiver/barrel was loose in the stock. I talked to service and received excellent response. I returned the gun and it was back in less then two weeks. They put on a new slide and drilled the hole in the receiver for the slide stop which fixed that problem. A new stock was provided. I had solved most of the movement by putting a shim into the front band assembly which they left in. I have since increased the shim thickness and removed all movement. At 100 yards, I have about a 4 to 5 inch circle about 4 inches to the right of center. I have put in some left correction (.024 in), but have not had a chance to shoot it. If I wanted a target gun I would have bought one. It is a good shooter and so far is holding up just fine. Ask if you want to know more about the shim. I also purchased a ProMag 15 rnd magazine, and the bolt now stays back after the last round.
The AO carbine is much nicer looking than the real deal carbines that I have seen.
I bought the gun to shoot it more than collect it.
And I was expecting a brand new rifle to function better than a surplus firearm.
Well I shoot my USGI carbines ,alot. I will put mine up against your brand new commercial carbine and I bet mine looks as good as yours plus it functions perfectly
Auto Ordinance and real carbine 
